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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 1:49:47 PM   
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How about a real problem

It would appear that the root of the problem is that men cannot be trusted to behave in a locker room.

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 1:51:19 PM   
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You wouldn't let a bunch of homeless people move into your house would you,

Actually me and my old roommates did that for a while, we had a spare room that was furnished (the previous roommate took off and left everything behind), so instead of looking for a new roommate we let a series of homeless women stay in that room to get back on their feet.
It didn't last long as the building got sold out from under us and we all went our separate ways, but in total we helped 4 women get off the street.

that is walking the walk

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 1:52:02 PM   
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Maybe if we weren't so busy with all the special rights all the special snowflakes want, real problems would get more attention.

And that is precisely why the government and media spend so much time on those piddly little issues, to keep the people divided and fighting about the little shit so that the actual real threats can be kept hidden.

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 1:59:45 PM   
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Maybe if we weren't so busy with all the special rights all the special snowflakes want, real problems would get more attention.

Was MLK a special snowflake seeking special rights? How 'bout Susan B. Anthony?

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 2:12:34 PM   
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This made me smile
Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) proved she has no tolerance for transphobia.

Lofgren criticized the submitted testimony of Gail Heriot, of the United States Commission on Civil Rights, who spoke as a witness during a Wednesday House Judiciary Committee hearing on regulatory overreach.

Heriot argued that trans people shouldn’t be accepted as the gender they identify with, saying, “If I believe that I am a Russian princess, that doesn’t make me a Russian princess, even if my friends and acquaintances are willing to indulge my fantasy.”

Lofgren was not having it.

“I’ve got to say, I found this rather offensive, and it says to me that the witness really doesn’t know anything and probably has never met a transgender child who is going through, in almost every case, a very difficult experience finding themselves,” Lofgren said.

“I think it’s very regrettable that comment was put into the record, and I think it’s highly offensive,” Lofgren added.

When Heriot tried to respond, Lofgren shut her down.

“I think you’re a bigot, lady, I think you are an ignorant bigot,” Lofgren said.

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) halted Lofgren’s remarks, declaring her “out of order.” But the congresswoman didn’t back down from her criticism.

“We allow witnesses to say offensive things, but I cannot allow that kind of bigotry to go into the record unchallenged,” Lofgren said.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/zoe-lofgren-transphobia_us_5746eee4e4b0dacf7ad403eb


edited to add, that one reader comment stood out for me....
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Jeanette Barrett · Spring, Texas
“If I believe that I am a Russian princess, that doesn’t make me a Russian princess..." We used to lock people away in institutions who lost themselves in fantasies like this. Now we put them on Prozac. We treat them chemically, counsel them, and release them back into society and hope for the best. But transgenders we persecute.

Transgenders are not mentally unbalanced. Their identity mismatch has been studied by the medical field extensively; they are not fantasizing about who they are. They're not playing a role or trying to upset anyone's belief system. They are who they are and those among us who don't like it can't change it.

If human beings are entitled to nothing else in this world, they are at least entitled to be who they are. Heterosexual, homosexual, trans-sexual, pansexual, non-sexual... You get one life. Live it on YOUR terms. Because there are no do-overs.


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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 2:28:08 PM   
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I will NOT have a 6' 4" N____ with a 10" dick taking a piss right next to my 13 year old niece.



Well I guess even if your nice identifies as male the urinals would be impossible to use for her, so this will not happen untill the surgery is not over and she will finally able to pee standing up, but at that time he won't be so young.

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 2:35:44 PM   
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Maybe he's fine with transgender toilet use, but has an issue with mixed race urination and shitting?

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 3:04:24 PM   
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So the truth is getting hysterical?

A no
B your belief is not the truth
C Interesting that Tweak said it was hysterical, not me. Yet she attacks me as being hysterical for reminding you of what you had said and you defend against me calling you hysterical when it was Tweak.

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 3:09:36 PM   
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Maybe if we weren't so busy with all the special rights all the special snowflakes want, real problems would get more attention.

Was MLK a special snowflake seeking special rights? How 'bout Susan B. Anthony?

Considering I am a woman and can vote and I voted for a black president, I'll let you answer that for yourself. Toodles.



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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 3:10:56 PM   
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You wouldn't let a bunch of homeless people move into your house would you,

Actually me and my old roommates did that for a while, we had a spare room that was furnished (the previous roommate took off and left everything behind), so instead of looking for a new roommate we let a series of homeless women stay in that room to get back on their feet.
It didn't last long as the building got sold out from under us and we all went our separate ways, but in total we helped 4 women get off the street.

You did that voluntarily, not by government fiat.

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 3:12:42 PM   
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Right. So she did it by choice when she didn't have to, but would have refused to do it if she was obliged to, is that what you're arguing?
Show your working out, if so: this oughta be good...

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 3:19:50 PM   
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Right. So she did it by choice when she didn't have to, but would have refused to do it if she was obliged to, is that what you're arguing?
Show your working out, if so: this oughta be good...

No, not even remotely.
I am saying that if she wants to share her home with homeless people that is fine, she seems to be a nice person. On the other hand being forced to by the government is onerous.

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 3:23:19 PM   
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Right, so her comment wasn't in reply to you saying this:
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You wouldn't let a bunch of homeless people move into your house would you

And you didn't come out with some bullshit line about government fiat to weasel out of admitting that your original statement was incorrect.

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 3:25:56 PM   
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Right, so her comment wasn't in reply to you saying this:
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You wouldn't let a bunch of homeless people move into your house would you

And you didn't come out with some bullshit line about government fiat to weasel out of admitting that your original statement was incorrect.

Yes and that was in response to someone else.
No I wasn't weaseling out of anything, I was correcting your misinterpretation of my statement.

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 3:34:31 PM   
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I will NOT have a 6' 4" N____ with a 10" dick taking a piss right next to my 13 year old niece.

would it be ok if he was a samoan with an 8" dick?

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 3:47:10 PM   
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Maybe if we weren't so busy with all the special rights all the special snowflakes want, real problems would get more attention.
People want respect but don't give respect. Ya know like using ancient books for toilet paper? Real nice. They used corn cobs too, that might be more up your alley.
Since we are the anything goes country now, I think we should elect for president a pot smoking transgender with a penis who uses the woman's restroom that has not had surgery yet. Better yet, why don't we do away with restrooms all together and put a gender just nuetral toilet in the hallway so we all can be uncomfortable. Equal rights!


Having equal rights for everyone is not "special" rights
Asking to be given ANY rights implies that you have the power to give them
Y0u dont, so we are demanding that you stop denying the rights EVERYONE deserves.


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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 3:49:59 PM   
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A poll within a thread.

How many of you have been sexually assaulted by a transperson in a restroom?

How many of your daughters, nieces, lil sisters, etc been exposed by someone's wang in a public toilet?

Like it or not, statistically proven, it's het men that are most likely to be molesters. I was more afraid of sending my son into a men's room when he was small than I ever was about him being around a trans* person that just needed to pee.


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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 3:59:01 PM   
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<Fast Reply>

A poll within a thread.

How many of you have been sexually assaulted by a transperson in a restroom?

How many of your daughters, nieces, lil sisters, etc been exposed by someone's wang in a public toilet?

Like it or not, statistically proven, it's het men that are most likely to be molesters. I was more afraid of sending my son into a men's room when he was small than I ever was about him being around a trans* person that just needed to pee.


The concern is not so much that women will be attacked by transgenders but that

A It is basically indecent to have mixed gender restrooms

and

B That none trans perverts will use this as cover.

This has been stated repeatedly by many people and yet for the most part people who favor an restroom open door policy insist that it is simply a matter of bigottry against trans.
Why not just have businesses install plumbing in the middle of the store with open air stalls .

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 4:06:00 PM   
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Maybe if we weren't so busy with all the special rights all the special snowflakes want, real problems would get more attention.
People want respect but don't give respect. Ya know like using ancient books for toilet paper? Real nice. They used corn cobs too, that might be more up your alley.
Since we are the anything goes country now, I think we should elect for president a pot smoking transgender with a penis who uses the woman's restroom that has not had surgery yet. Better yet, why don't we do away with restrooms all together and put a gender just nuetral toilet in the hallway so we all can be uncomfortable. Equal rights!


Having equal rights for everyone is not "special" rights
Asking to be given ANY rights implies that you have the power to give them
Y0u dont, so we are demanding that you stop denying the rights EVERYONE deserves.



1. Ah hello, sorry I don't have the power to deny everyone's rights, so you can throw a fit and demand all you want. Yadda yadda.
2. Number two (no pun intended) you don't live in the us do you? That means you don't get to vote until you do.

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RE: 11 States Sue Over Transgender Policy - 5/26/2016 4:11:23 PM   
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1. Never
2. Never
I did get a drag queen ask to borrow my eyeliner, but she was in a airtight satin fishtail dress, no chance of a quick wang shot. I have to admit it was club competition night for the local queens( gawd love em)

When I was seven I was playing in the street outside the house, hopscotch n skipping, me my next door neighour and my siblings, when a guy walked between us with his dick out stroking it.

Bullies, both male and female like to hide in their bathrooms, But wang flashing in them...nope.

Ive sat across from an old white bloke on a train when he started stroking the knob of his "walking cane" yeah was a knob but no cane

Oh there was that time at BR where a chick was showing off her labia piercings and chains outside the dungeon, but she was so proud, I just gave her a smile n a thumbs up


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