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OsideGirl -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/1/2016 5:35:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul And exactly whose fault is that? Is it the woman for planning ahead to grow big boobs so she can get tips, or is it the men who can't think rationally around big boobs that they let go of their money? Yes, because God knows that a grown ass man has no control when presented with boobs....so it's the woman's fault for having said boobs. [8\|] Personally I know way too many women who would give a left boob for the chance to plan ahead on their body...and tipping would have very little to do with the process. It comes with a price though. Men tend to treat women with large breasts as objects and/or less intelligent. At age 30 (I looked younger) I was managing the onsite travel office for a multinational company based in Japan. My job was to enforce policy and they played all sorts of games to get around that policy. At points, I had to sink into being a complete bitch for them to accept a "no". The Japanese guys were even worse.

Wayward5oul -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/1/2016 5:42:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl It comes with a price though. Men tend to treat women with large breasts as objects and/or less intelligent. At age 30 (I looked younger) I was managing the onsite travel office for a multinational company based in Japan. My job was to enforce policy and they played all sorts of games to get around that policy. At points, I had to sink into being a complete bitch for them to accept a "no". The Japanese guys were even worse. I didn't have the big-chest problem until I got pregnant. But I grew up watching how men treated my sister, who was 'blessed' in the chest department, as early as 12 years old. And the vast majority of them were completely oblivious to their behavior. It affected her. And yes, she now owns her own business, many men work under her, and she still gets the 'big busted bimbo' treatment today. She had to learn how to be a bitch before they would listen to her. She didn't used to be that way. She grew up trying to hide because of the way men treated her once they noticed her. She had to make herself be aggressive to get past their treatment and run her business. She is incredibly successful, but she still has to deal with that crap regularly.

DarkSteven -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/1/2016 5:47:25 PM)
At least find out her name first.

TNDommeK -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/1/2016 8:01:11 PM)
Ok I stopped reading after page 4, so fast reply... First, I don't think the age thing is that big of a deal. While she may not be as mature as most of us, she's still legal. Which means if she chooses to date older that's her right. If he decides to go after her, that's his right. Just as we have the right to judge. Second, I have seen a lot of situations like this, most of consisting of the girl living on her own...with extra pocket money. So there are a lot of young girls doing this. I also gotta say, I PROMISE you, the only reason you know about her personal life (if it's at all true) is to get a bigger tip. My advice, make sure you have a second watering hole to go to.

Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/1/2016 9:03:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven At least find out her name first. How old school of you [:D]

Greta75 -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/1/2016 9:33:57 PM)
FR Personally I find it sad if women have to resort to paying rent with sexual services. I have nothing against prostitutes making money through sex. But to just accept miserly free rent in payment for sex? That's really devaluing yourself big time! I mean, if you are planning to get paid for sex, like make sure you choose an "employer" who PAYS YOU WELL! If she really wanna make money from sex, she should find a more generous man than this stingy OP dude. She's young, I am sure she can get better and more lucrative offers. Personally, I'd simply hope she knows her value and negotiate for a better deal! I mean if you wanna put a price tag on yourself. Put a higher one than just rent! Some women gets ownership of fully paid apartments as payment for sex. Now that is what I call free rent for life for sex. That would make more sense!

FieryOpal -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/1/2016 9:57:41 PM)
[Brackets mine] quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: [ORIGINAL: thompsonx] I would be most interested in how you draw your distinctions. Oh that's easy. Sex: Will you fuck me? Prostitution: How much to fuck me? High Five quote: ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2 quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven At least find out her name first. How old school of you [:D] Yeah, as well as finding out whether she doesn't already have a boyfriend before asking her out on a date. [8\|] If she's not interested in dating a much older man (or just not interested in OP himself), then she won't be interested in much of anything else being proposed.

JanahX -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/1/2016 10:01:03 PM)
This place never loses its charm. Lmmmmffffaaaaaaaaoooooooo

FieryOpal -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/1/2016 11:35:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ????Sex is sex whether one is having one's period or not. That isn't the point. Only an inconsiderate s.o.b. would expect a woman to be up to snuff at this time of the month, especially during those 3-4 or more days of full menstrual flow with cramps & bloating. Per the sex-on-demand scenario, and getting sex less than 5 times a week on average becoming problematic for vguy, any man with half a brain would know better than to expect a female partner of childbearing age to perform sexually on par as she would or could the other 3 weeks in the month. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: FieryOpal In what freaking universe...?<snip> Not my issue. --<snip>-- The one we are discussing??? I was referring back to vguy's sugar-baby universe, not necessarily to yours. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: FieryOpal No, this is not at all what OP has on the hypothetical table, which is more akin to sex-for-room & board compensation, and not even a paid companion position. How is it that you see those two as being not equal positions? You were thinking of paid sexual companionship, while I meant 'paid companion' in a more general sense, where actual companionship is not equivalent to the sex-on-demand stipulation, unless otherwise negotiated. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx I simply pointed out that a wife/girlfriend cost about what he said he was paying for the sugar baby. Yes, I know where you were coming from and I wasn't discounting everything you stated, but your (masculine?) logic was still flawed. Again, this is comparing apples to oranges. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: FieryOpal quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Then of course there is the counter poise of nick and nora charles...(kept older man) You wish. [;)] Those were fictional characters on a celluloid screen. Fake. Just as fake as tom arnold and rosanne. They were a real-life celebrity couple, not merely make-believe characters. Besides, celebrities follow a different set of rules when it comes to their private lives.

pleasnpetrichor -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/3/2016 2:10:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JanahX This place never loses its charm. Lmmmmffffaaaaaaaaoooooooo I think you're right. I'm so sorry.

DommeinRochester -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/4/2016 10:19:46 AM)
Yesterday, Sunday before Memorial Day), late morning. I went to a local bar/restaurant. The bartender knew my name (i still don't know hers.) I was the only one there. So we talked, a lot. And in all that talking, it NEVER occurred to you to ask her name? So now she is tending bar and trying to save for school. She is also studying to become a Manager at the Bar/Restaurant I stopped at. As additional information, she lives alone in an apartment less than a quarter mile from me. Plus, she is struggling to get the money together to buy a laptop for school. And we all know what an arrangement entails; no? No, we know what an arrangement means for YOU. This morning, I was doing some housework, and the thought occurred to me. As in? "Hmmm, if I could get that pretty little barmaid to be my submissive, my lazy ass wouldn't have to clean my house!" She has no friends or family locally. So why not talk more with her about an arrangement? Because you can't even be bothered to learn her name! My thoughts of course are: she could live with me for free and save the money she earns; we both would share some companionship and comfort; and i could get sex regularly. Did it ever occur to you and your penis, that she may have been offered this before by other customers and is proud of herself for putting herself through school? So let me understand this, she's going to continue going to school, continue working, somehow find time to study, take care of your house, cook, be your submissive AND as an added bonus gets to fuck you whenever you want, no matter how tired she may be? Of course when she had every thing worked out in her life; she would be free to go. You are just the best guy ever! Ya know, I kind of liked the idea ... so Of course you do cupcake

Kaliko -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/4/2016 12:15:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DommeinRochester So let me understand this, she's going to continue going to school, continue working, somehow find time to study, take care of your house, cook, be your submissive AND as an added bonus gets to fuck you whenever you want, no matter how tired she may be? Um....this pretty much sounds like my D/s relationship. (Though, we happen to love each other, as well.) Why does it seem so outrageous to you?

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/4/2016 12:53:38 PM)
quote: Why does it seem so outrageous to you? Because he doesn't even know her name.

Kaliko -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/4/2016 1:26:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: Why does it seem so outrageous to you? Because he doesn't even know her name. I'm sure that would probably come up at some point. I think it's weird that people are stuck on that. I admit it, I've certainly had fantasies about men without knowing their names. If it went further than fantasy, then sure...I would introduce myself, first. But I don't need to know somebody's name before desiring them. At any rate, my feeling is to give the OP the benefit of the doubt and assume he'll probably inquire about her name before sealing the deal. The name thing is a non-issue for me.

DommeinRochester -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/4/2016 1:54:09 PM)
Where did I say this was outrageous? That's great that you have a relationship similar to what he wants. But as you said, you both love each other. I'm not saying this type of exchange is bad for everyone. I'm questioning his mindset. Has he really thought this out, how this will impact her? Or is he typing with his penis?

Shandirra -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/4/2016 1:59:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seekingOwnertoo Please do share your thoughts; about a 21 year old girl becoming the kept submissive of a 59 year old man. :-) Myself, just love that age range. LOL Late to the party, but commenting none the less. It's creepy as fuck. Male or female. No matter which direction the age gap falls. Anyone that's old enough to be your parent or young enough to be your child. JUST NO. Not ever. Yuck. Ugh. I need brain bleach.

Wayward5oul -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/4/2016 2:14:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kaliko quote: ORIGINAL: DommeinRochester So let me understand this, she's going to continue going to school, continue working, somehow find time to study, take care of your house, cook, be your submissive AND as an added bonus gets to fuck you whenever you want, no matter how tired she may be? Um....this pretty much sounds like my D/s relationship. (Though, we happen to love each other, as well.) Why does it seem so outrageous to you? For one thing, he is considering proposing this to her despite the fact that he has no indication whatsoever that she has any interest in a D/s relationship. He read an article about sugar babies, saw a hot piece of ass who he thought might be desperate enough in her own situation to consider what many people would deem as prostitution, and he would like to take advantage of that perceived desperation.. Secondly, he is trying to play it out as something that would make her life easier. The added bonus of being his maid and sex toy would hardly make things easier on her. It's bullshit and he knows it. He obviously doesn't give a damn about her well-being.

verbatimguy -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/4/2016 2:21:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul And exactly whose fault is that? Is it the woman for planning ahead to grow big boobs so she can get tips, or is it the men who can't think rationally around big boobs that they let go of their money? Yes, because God knows that a grown ass man has no control when presented with boobs....so it's the woman's fault for having said boobs. [8\|] Personally I know way too many women who would give a left boob for the chance to plan ahead on their body...and tipping would have very little to do with the process. It comes with a price though. Men tend to treat women with large breasts as objects and/or less intelligent. At age 30 (I looked younger) I was managing the onsite travel office for a multinational company based in Japan. My job was to enforce policy and they played all sorts of games to get around that policy. At points, I had to sink into being a complete bitch for them to accept a "no". The Japanese guys were even worse. I think you have that wrong. Its not that men treat large titted woman as less inteligent but that their are some woman who use their large tits as there ONLY way to get guys. Only those larte titty woman who dont get educated but who go go dance for living or bartend for living using there tits as the moneymaker are the ones who men may find less intelligant that all other woman.

Danemora -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/4/2016 3:07:56 PM)
Nevermind...too close to gold letter territory

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? (6/4/2016 4:27:16 PM)
quote: I'm sure that would probably come up at some point. You're missing the point. The fact that she never told him her name, and yet was willing to give him a hard luck story shows that her only interest in him is to get a better tip. If she had even the slightest interest in him she would have given her name. I have been a waitress/barmaid for 15 years now, and believe me, when you don't tell a customer your name, then you have zero interest in them beyond getting as big a tip as you can.

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