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Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 1:45:14 AM

Greta75

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Talking about the transgender issue.

So what if all these males turn transgender into females. And they are recruited for female sports. Real females will all seriously be in trouble, we'd never win anything at the olympics being against men identifying as females :(!

Just saying! New complication!

UNFAIR!

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 2:18:33 AM

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Maybe in certain sports.

You ain't from here so I will have to describe this. In US style football, in the Cleveland Browns we had a quarterback named Bernie Kosar. He was described as lanky and me and a few of my friends thought he should be made to wear like 20 pound weights on his ankles at practice, then in the real game he would feel like he could fly. He wasn't that great but not bad, and he had a shitty front line.

But the point here is that I have known Women tougher than him, one actually did play football.

Football US style is a pretty rough sport, it involves physical trauma on a regular basis and you just gotta take it. There are very few females who can take it. You look in any football stadium lockers you will not see a "Womens" room.

Know what else ? Bricklaying. There are fucking like three female fully accredited and WORKING female bricklayers in this country, possibly on the planet. And bridge painters, people fucking die trying to do that job. And when Ford Motor Company started up, people died working there. As far as I know no Women.

On the average, Women are weaker than Men. And this gender issues with the bathrooms ties into that, because of something hard and sticking out and the other having a nice warm hole the N____ wants, we got a fucking problem. I want to be wanted, not allowed, but some, of any color, simply do not care.

I hate to say it, but Women should not seek to be "equal". Maybe to get equal rights n shit, but just wait until the draft comes back. You be really fucked then, you must have heard some of the stories about that.

The army would keep Women and girls safe from rape ? The fucking Nazis. I shit you not. Find me evidence. Rape meant a death penalty because you were wasting your seed. "OUR SEED" Now see that is racist. nothing to do with skin color.

If a Polish girl wanted to marry a Ukrainian back then, her Father would be likely to kill her. My Paternal Grandfather was Polish and his Wife German, that was unheard of. What's more, one was Catholic and the other Lutheran, I do not remember which was which anymore.

Enough, carry on because I don't know everyone wants to take this direction.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 2:21:40 AM

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Suffice it to say there are some really tough broads out there.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 2:24:18 AM

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Well, I certainly believe that the American football team with more transgenders in a female league, will be the team always winning! They will be faster, taller and stronger!

I believe I can do the exact same training regimen as a male, and I would not even gain as much muscles as him! It's just not possible!

Although I have always wondered that because US is world champions in Female soccer, would they have been better off sending off their female team to represent the male world cup.

In many ways, soccer needs agility and skills and stamina, less strength although speed plays a good part, but maybe female might be more agile.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 2:30:07 AM

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quote:

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Maybe in certain sports.

You ain't from here so I will have to describe this. In US style football, in the Cleveland Browns we had a quarterback named Bernie Kosar. He was described as lanky and me and a few of my friends thought he should be made to wear like 20 pound weights on his ankles at practice, then in the real game he would feel like he could fly. He wasn't that great but not bad, and he had a shitty front line.

But the point here is that I have known Women tougher than him, one actually did play football.

Football US style is a pretty rough sport, it involves physical trauma on a regular basis and you just gotta take it. There are very few females who can take it. You look in any football stadium lockers you will not see a "Womens" room.

Know what else ? Bricklaying. There are fucking like three female fully accredited and WORKING female bricklayers in this country, possibly on the planet. And bridge painters, people fucking die trying to do that job. And when Ford Motor Company started up, people died working there. As far as I know no Women.

On the average, Women are weaker than Men. And this gender issues with the bathrooms ties into that, because of something hard and sticking out and the other having a nice warm hole the N____ wants, we got a fucking problem. I want to be wanted, not allowed, but some, of any color, simply do not care.

I hate to say it, but Women should not seek to be "equal". Maybe to get equal rights n shit, but just wait until the draft comes back. You be really fucked then, you must have heard some of the stories about that.

The army would keep Women and girls safe from rape ? The fucking Nazis. I shit you not. Find me evidence. Rape meant a death penalty because you were wasting your seed. "OUR SEED" Now see that is racist. nothing to do with skin color.

If a Polish girl wanted to marry a Ukrainian back then, her Father would be likely to kill her. My Paternal Grandfather was Polish and his Wife German, that was unheard of. What's more, one was Catholic and the other Lutheran, I do not remember which was which anymore.

Enough, carry on because I don't know everyone wants to take this direction.

T^T

I saw an article yesterday where female track runners were upset because a trans male had been allowed to compeat as a female, he cleaned up.
Remember Renee Richards?
Pro trans tennis player who did well on the womens circuit, till they threw him/her off the circuit.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 2:58:13 AM

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I believe I can do the exact same training regimen as a male, and I would not even gain as much muscles as him! It's just not possible!

Really Greta? Not possible you say???

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 3:18:21 AM

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freed, those picture don't mean shit.

Those people are artificial and are on chemicals to look like that but not all that much stronger. Strong yes, but most are really not benching 400. When I worked out it was not for looks it was for strength. We took the weight up fast, as soon as I could do three sets of ten the weight went up. I did NOT want to look like that. I did not want to BE like that. I could lift the back end of a Volkswagon but you could not tell it by looking at me. I could grab your neck and smack your head on the ground, with almost no effort.

While I have no doubt those freaks are stronger than me, most people weren't. Everyone in this fucking city knew not to even think of fucking with me. But that was then. Now I use weapons.

And IMO, those broads are fucking ugly. And you know what else ? I think guys who look like that are ugly. And it fucks with their life. Some of them cannot bring a spoon or fork to their mouth and have to be fed by someone else.

In my world, we are taking guy who can pick up the end of a car. but really do not show it. We did that by increasing the weight really fast. The people who wanted to look like that spent years doing reps at the same weight. Male or female, doesn't matter. And you know what ? They are going to die young.

Wish I would but it looks like I am going to outlive everyone I can stand.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 3:50:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Talking about the transgender issue.

So what if all these males turn transgender into females. And they are recruited for female sports. Real females will all seriously be in trouble, we'd never win anything at the olympics being against men identifying as females :(!

Just saying! New complication!

UNFAIR!

Let's clarify one things first this is nothing like bathrooms' use controversy in a competition if someone has an undue advantage will impact others and even if for the people watching sports may not be a big deal (she won't be in the olympics anyway, she's not gonna steal the scolarship of another girl etc.) for someone that knows how much sacrifies it requires at any level and fairness is a fundamental principle expecially in junior categories. It also is not a made up problem as males posing as females in athletic competition is nothing new, starting from Dora Ratjen in berlin 1936 olympics.
Different sports have different rules for elegibility in categories and they are specified in their federal rules, they might change in time, be challenged in courts of law or just be controversial, but if you are within the limitations of the official regulations you are elegible for that category. IAAF has it's own transgender policy that can be found and downloaded from the list at this url http://www.iaaf.org/about-iaaf/documents/medical, the criteria in this case imposes that a medical panel evaluates case by case based on a range of factors:
-the athlete's age;
-whether sex reassignment took place pre or post-puberty;
-the nature of the sex reassignment procedure undertaken;
-the period of time since completion of the sex reassignment procedure;
-the athlete's androgen levels; and
-the nature, duration and results of any treatment and monitoring undertaken following completion of the sex reassignment procedure.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 5:21:29 AM

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Personally I think sports should be outlawed, but then I am not a sports fan.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 5:29:38 AM

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quote:

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I believe I can do the exact same training regimen as a male, and I would not even gain as much muscles as him! It's just not possible!

Really Greta? Not possible you say???

Which part of exact same regiment did you not understand?

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 11:59:37 AM

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Women can gain as much muscle as men.
There's nothing to physically to stop them doing so.
I know some women over here that take testosterone suppliments to make them look bigger and better.
There are also some women that are naturally butch and well-built without doing anything.

Generally speaking, the physical regime for men and women are different.
Women generally don't push the same weights or run the same distances carrying the same stuff in their back-packs.
Some women (like some men) don't gain as much muscle given the same environment.
Some will put it on like pouring it.
Everyone's physiology is different.

While it might not seem like it to you, almost anything is possible.
So what part of 'not possible' do you think applies??

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 12:37:09 PM

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So what part of 'not possible' do you think applies??

She couldn't bulk up like that, so any alleged woman who can must have an even bigger cock than Lady Gaga's, at a guess.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 12:43:00 PM

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So what part of 'not possible' do you think applies??

She couldn't bulk up like that, so any alleged woman who can must have an even bigger cock than Lady Gaga's, at a guess.

I've seen guys that didn't bulk up at all.
I've seen women that bulk up more than some men do.
I'm not saying it's common, but it can and does happen.

To claim that women can't bulk up would be disingenuous at best.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 12:47:17 PM

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I know that, you know that, but she's not the only poster in this thread in denial about it, it seems.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 1:27:44 PM

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Well.... she does live in that tiny myopic and insular country called Singapore.
It seems nothing there is 'normal' compared to the rest of the world.

Let's face it - it's no bigger than a small town. lol.
Nothing on that scale of tiny can be called 'normal'.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 1:54:35 PM

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Maybe she's thinking of some of the Thai "girls" she's met when she says that those big muscly women can't be real?

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 3:57:35 PM

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Women can gain as much muscle as men.
There's nothing to physically to stop them doing so.
I know some women over here that take testosterone suppliments to make them look bigger and better.
There are also some women that are naturally butch and well-built without doing anything.

Generally speaking, the physical regime for men and women are different.
Women generally don't push the same weights or run the same distances carrying the same stuff in their back-packs.
Some women (like some men) don't gain as much muscle given the same environment.
Some will put it on like pouring it.
Everyone's physiology is different.

While it might not seem like it to you, almost anything is possible.
So what part of 'not possible' do you think applies??

Just a precisation and I read it's similar to what you said I just want to clarify some things, women tend to have less strenght not because they can't put up muscles just see female cross country skier, like Marit Bjørgen, but as a biologicl adaptation to motherhood they have an higher percentage of fat into muscles. This impacts efficency in getting a certain time or lifting a certain weight, but they tend to have more endurance, women compete in marathons or other races like vasaloppet, marathon des sables or hawaii iromnam (and by the way I wish I could be around the best woman in those races). Also the less important strenght is the smaller the gap gets, in marathon for example Paula Radcliffe got the british season best among both sexes. If women compete in shorter distances (that by the way doesn't happen in athletics) it's because you have less women competing in a sport so statistically the gap between each position so to have a larger starting group in the race you have to shorten the distances, but again it's more a matter of results not capability.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 4:02:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Talking about the transgender issue.

So what if all these males turn transgender into females. And they are recruited for female sports. Real females will all seriously be in trouble, we'd never win anything at the olympics being against men identifying as females :(!

Just saying! New complication!

UNFAIR!

It's not new....go back to the 70's.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 4:08:29 PM

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we'd never win anything at the olympics

Good, maybe then they will stop holding them.

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RE: Forget about toilets, what about sports? - 6/9/2016 4:34:32 PM

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So Far, I am in total agreement with KenDickey *smile*..................after that, all the other details fall by the wayside.

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