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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 9:04:20 AM   
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Oh dear...trump is down 6 points against hils...fox news pol.
Anyone think hes gonna pack up his toys and go home?



Far to much to hope for, Lucy.
(Though this attitude is at least partly the result of a desire to witness a truly epic tantrum in the event of Clinton winning a Presidential election that he loses. He'll make Uwe Boll freaking out about a lack of crowdfunding look stoic by comparison, I'm sure...)

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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 1:33:23 PM   
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How dare thee god sir. Paying his dues to mere human wretches, plebs and scumbags, is beneath him. Think that's about all I can say on his murky shenanigans I cannot be bothered regurgitating his fiscal nugget video clips, from his campaigning trails, boasting of his fiscal acumen and how he will fix America and make it great again..,but curiously Scrooge like in details, and I mean even one solitary detail. Whilst people are also entitled to change their minds standing firstly as a democrat, then independent, then republican an ill wind bloweth with king of the monkey folks, mark my words. And if it was me I would not let him within 10 paces of a piggy bank.



Trump is the "King of the Monkey Folks."

Hmm.

I like that.
Very appropriate description, given his overall behavior and depth of political acumen.

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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 1:38:15 PM   
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If Flump has laid claim to that title, I'm surprised Rush Limpdick is still supporting him.

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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 1:52:17 PM   
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That's why when I was doing contracting it was pay as you go. you can't trust anyone.

But the bottom line is - do you REALLY want Hillary instead ?

T^T


I'd rather see blood in my urine than Trump as president.

Blood in your urine is curable........sometimes

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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 3:37:11 PM   
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That's why when I was doing contracting it was pay as you go. you can't trust anyone.

But the bottom line is - do you REALLY want Hillary instead ?

T^T


When I did yard work for HRC, she always gave me left-over cookies from last night's party ...
and STILL paid me.

Here's the news;

"Last night's cookies!" is the new "A chicken in every pot!"

Back then, the kids' reading book was the closest many of them ever came to seeing a chicken, after election. Hillary throws a lot more parties than that other guy, so I give her more cred on promises.

Speaking from personal experience, you understand.






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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 3:55:56 PM   
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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 5:02:44 PM   
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Now I understand why he's running for President. As President isn't he immune to common law suits? He could have 4 years when he doesn't have to pay (or not pay) attorneys to clean up after himself.

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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 6:38:59 PM   
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Trying to compare what goes on in your country with the US? wtf? apples to oranges.. even his own people signed off on the work saying the quality was acceptable, later claiming it wasnt was just a blatant sleazy scam to rip people off..

Have you experience overseeing a major renovation or construction job in your country before?

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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 8:17:06 PM   
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Yes. DDE, the interstate highway system, what the fiuck you got?

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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 8:19:16 PM   
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nutsuckers should be shitting their pants oer this, they do it for lesser reason.

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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 8:37:44 PM   
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Yes. DDE, the interstate highway system, what the fiuck you got?

Are you the contractor or the person paying the bills to build it?

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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 8:45:36 PM   
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Yes. DDE, the interstate highway system, what the fiuck you got?

Are you the contractor or the person paying the bills to build it?

You aint paid the bill since WW2, and you are not paying them now. But seriously, who gets a better deal, Maylasia, which can sell to themoneselvew, or get your products in here, in the largest market in the world, for nothing.....what do you got to trade besides warm dogshit?


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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 10:08:29 PM   
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Yes. DDE, the interstate highway system, what the fiuck you got?

Are you the contractor or the person paying the bills to build it?

You aint paid the bill since WW2, and you are not paying them now. But seriously, who gets a better deal, Maylasia, which can sell to themoneselvew, or get your products in here, in the largest market in the world, for nothing.....what do you got to trade besides warm dogshit?


After proudly declaring you are involve in building an interstate highway system, you dodge my question?

Okay...




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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 10:41:17 PM   
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Trying to compare what goes on in your country with the US? wtf? apples to oranges.. even his own people signed off on the work saying the quality was acceptable, later claiming it wasnt was just a blatant sleazy scam to rip people off..

Have you experience overseeing a major renovation or construction job in your country before?


My experience isnt what matters here, its the businesses & employees owed money, their experience in not getting paid is what matters..

Trumps Supervisor/Construction Manager signed off on it as acceptable work.. if it wasnt acceptable then why does Trump have the Supervisor/Manager working for him? His people should know what Trump considers acceptable or not..

The time to complain about the quality is while the work is being done, not after completion and 30, 60, 90 days later and using that as a "Trumped" up excuse to not pay..

The Judge mentioned in the article knew what the sleazy Trump's were doing, thats why he ordered foreclosure proceedings on the resort property.. the excuse "Trumped" up for that one was that the contractor had been "already paid enough", not that there was a quality issue, Trump just wanted to renege on the original agreement and wanted a better deal by breaking the contract & in essence, stealing money from the contractor from what he was legally due.

And in this country, if an employee works X hours he/she is entitled by law to get paid for those X hours, not to get stiffed by a sleazy greedy billionaire & his equally sleazy greedy daughter..

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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/10/2016 11:04:07 PM   
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My experience isnt what matters here, its the businesses & employees owed money, their experience in not getting paid is what matters..


My experience in disputes in renovation and construction lines can be very polarising too. One party says this, the other party says that. Most of the time, the one party thinks they do a good enough job and met expectations, the payer disagree and does not like the quality done.

Currently, we only heard one side of the story. I would like to hear a more detailed account from Trump side of the story.

Because, I don't believe that man will stiff people IF everything was done properly.

Even if his supervisor okayed on it, I have okayed on stuffs, and then only to have my boss come and notice something I missed, and then I'm in trouble, the boss refuse to pay. That's my experience. My role is my boss tells me what he wants to be done, I get it done, find the contractors, over see it, get my boss approval on costs. But what happens is, if I miss some shit on final completion and my boss sees a problem. After I okayed it, shit storm will happen. Payments will be dragged for sure. There will be disagreements. But the thing is, when you really think about it. Although it was careless of me to miss the shoddy quality part, but they are the experts who probably knew and was praying and hoping I never see it and then just sign off that everything is okay. Until big boss noticed, then, ooooh, shit storm.

Doesn't matter hours put in. What matters is the finished job is the quality and workmanship as promised. And already with opening smaller places, there is so much defects to look out for. I can't even begin to imagine the task of looking out for every imperfection with a large building.

Even with condominiums here. When my parents bought a brand new condo, they got relatives, as many people as possible to go check for defects all around the whole apartment. And more than 30 defects found. There is a 30 days grace period for the construction company to fix all the defects, after 30 days, defect or not, you gotta pay for it, unless it's a defect they can't fix. In that specific agreement, that was the agreement.



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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/11/2016 2:21:47 AM   
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Now I understand why he's running for President. As President isn't he immune to common law suits? He could have 4 years when he doesn't have to pay (or not pay) attorneys to clean up after himself.


Just like Silvio Berlusconi in Italy did

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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/11/2016 4:38:03 AM   
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Now I understand why he's running for President. As President isn't he immune to common law suits? He could have 4 years when he doesn't have to pay (or not pay) attorneys to clean up after himself.


Just like Silvio Berlusconi in Italy did


Berlusconi managed more than four years. Really good point peppermint's made otherwise. I'd not thought of that one.

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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/11/2016 7:43:33 AM   
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Yes. DDE, the interstate highway system, what the fiuck you got?

Are you the contractor or the person paying the bills to build it?


I am a person that has worked on it, sweated on it and was paid to do so.


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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/11/2016 7:57:07 AM   
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RE: Trump's trail of Unpaid Bills - 6/11/2016 4:09:50 PM   
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My experience isnt what matters here, its the businesses & employees owed money, their experience in not getting paid is what matters..


My experience in disputes in renovation and construction lines can be very polarising too. One party says this, the other party says that. Most of the time, the one party thinks they do a good enough job and met expectations, the payer disagree and does not like the quality done.

Currently, we only heard one side of the story. I would like to hear a more detailed account from Trump side of the story.

Because, I don't believe that man will stiff people IF everything was done properly.

Even if his supervisor okayed on it, I have okayed on stuffs, and then only to have my boss come and notice something I missed, and then I'm in trouble, the boss refuse to pay. That's my experience. My role is my boss tells me what he wants to be done, I get it done, find the contractors, over see it, get my boss approval on costs. But what happens is, if I miss some shit on final completion and my boss sees a problem. After I okayed it, shit storm will happen. Payments will be dragged for sure. There will be disagreements. But the thing is, when you really think about it. Although it was careless of me to miss the shoddy quality part, but they are the experts who probably knew and was praying and hoping I never see it and then just sign off that everything is okay. Until big boss noticed, then, ooooh, shit storm.

Doesn't matter hours put in. What matters is the finished job is the quality and workmanship as promised. And already with opening smaller places, there is so much defects to look out for. I can't even begin to imagine the task of looking out for every imperfection with a large building.

Even with condominiums here. When my parents bought a brand new condo, they got relatives, as many people as possible to go check for defects all around the whole apartment. And more than 30 defects found. There is a 30 days grace period for the construction company to fix all the defects, after 30 days, defect or not, you gotta pay for it, unless it's a defect they can't fix. In that specific agreement, that was the agreement.




Oh Bull.. just cuz thats the way you do things there doesnt mean thats the way its done here.. here new homes have New Home Warranties to fix any defects for 10 fucking years!..

Again, that twit Trump stiffed realtors, lawyers and employees.. with employees if you arent satisified with the quality of the work your recourse is to fire that person, not stiff them on their wages!

Lucy is right.. I think I will join her in putting you and your BS drivel on ignore.. That way I wont even see your stupid blah, blah, blah..


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