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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 10:48:42 AM   
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Why is it that I should be maltreated by my .gov because some other guy is a dick?
Why should innocent children die just so you can buy a weapon to compensate for your small dick?

Ahhhh....here we go with the "...but the children..." argument. With the typical 'making up for masculine deficiency' insult thrown in for good measure.
If the shoe fits... I mean you guys with your "home defense" guacamola are comprehensively full of shit. We don't see you extolling the virtues of locks, alarm systems or security doors or posing with those fucking things. Of course not. All you do is pose with a gun because you've gotten this insane idea that possessing a firearm turns you into man - instead of a pussy who's afraid of getting his hands dirty.

There's a deep psychological need inside of chronic gun owners that causes them to equate gun removal with castration - because you've built your sense of identity and personal power around possession of a gun. I mean, it's obvious as fuck and yet you don't realise how fucking weak it makes you look.

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What's next? The "even if it saves only one life, isn't shredding the Bill of Rights worth it" argument?
Five bucks says you can't quote any amendments in the Bill of Rights besides the first and second without looking it up. And if modifying an amendment is equivalent to "shredding the Bill of Rights", then I presume you feel the country went to the dogs when the 13th amendment "shredded the Constitution" by outlawing.. oh.. what was that thing again..... oh yeah... SLAVERY.

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Tell me, Awareness...how many children were IN Pulse?
No idea. How many were in Sandy Hook, you witless cretin? In fact, here's an idea, how many children have died so you can posture with a weapon and pretend you're a man? Let's check how many school shootings the USA has: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

My my, there do seem to be a lot of them. One would almost think there's a connection between availability of guns and deaths due to firearms.

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Meanwhile, in the real world...and keep in mind that 46 states have banned texting while driving, as have D. C., Puerto Rico, Guam and the Virgin Islands. ( see http://www.ncsl.org/research/transportation/cellular-phone-use-and-texting-while-driving-laws.aspx
I see, so you have no problem with banning the use of certain functions on cellphones but banning high-powered weapons whose only purpose is to allow you to murder people is an infringement upon your most basic and important rights.

Are you high?

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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 10:51:18 AM   
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Well, I could say it's typical of the voluntarily emasculated leftrhoids to be obsessed with their jealousy of functional genitalia, but do you know how many children are in danger because of my rifles? Can you count as high as zero?
All who are within range of your rifles. Because you're a human being and human beings are fucking unstable.

Let me put it this way - why do people have to worry about your sanity when it comes to hoping their children are safe? Why should children be put into a situation where the only reason they haven't been murdered is because you haven't decided to... yet.

Why should you have that fucking capability in the first fucking place? Who the fuck are you to decide you have a right to murder at your whim?


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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 10:51:19 AM   
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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 11:00:54 AM   
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OK. Time to send this idiocy to "hide."

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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 11:02:05 AM   
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The only verified person on here is me

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anything less is a sock fake liars or cheats


Me myself and I?

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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 11:07:53 AM   
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Well, I could say it's typical of the voluntarily emasculated leftrhoids to be obsessed with their jealousy of functional genitalia, but do you know how many children are in danger because of my rifles? Can you count as high as zero?
All who are within range of your rifles. Because you're a human being and human beings are fucking unstable.

Let me put it this way - why do people have to worry about your sanity when it comes to hoping their children are safe? Why should children be put into a situation where the only reason they haven't been murdered is because you haven't decided to... yet.

Why should you have that fucking capability in the first fucking place? Who the fuck are you to decide you have a right to murder at your whim?



Well, you may be unstable, your emotion-driven outburst supports such an assessment, but you are mistaken to project that on others. In fact, I drove a school bus for several years, and if that doesn't make you want to shoot the little boogers, there's not much that will. Fact is, if I wanted to murder children, a knife would probably be more effective. It's quiet, and if you cut them right the only noise they make will be "gurgle". You want to try banning those? Now, if I'm somewhere and some miscreant starts shooting at me, and all I have is that knife, I can't very well say to him, "hey you, come here" now can I?

You are terribly mistaken that I consider myself to have the right to murder someone at my whim, I have no such thing. I have the greatest respect for life, unless it's trying to kill me. What I have the right to is the capability to defend myself, and the tools necessary to do so.

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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 11:11:42 AM   
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If you're unable to discern the difference between a knife/firearm choice for an individual murder and a mass shooting involving a weapon capable of spraying bullets, it's unlikely you're going to grasp the points of anyone's logical argument, whatever their position.

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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 11:13:24 AM   
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I dont know; you are as a party; very worried about bathrooms, who can pee in them, where to felch in them, and these people were killed in bathrooms.

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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 11:15:15 AM   
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Well, you may be unstable, your emotion-driven outburst supports such an assessment, but you are mistaken to project that on others.
Dude, everyone's unstable. Anyone who thinks they're not is delusional.

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In fact, I drove a school bus for several years, and if that doesn't make you want to shoot the little boogers, there's not much that will. Fact is, if I wanted to murder children, a knife would probably be more effective. It's quiet, and if you cut them right the only noise they make will be "gurgle". You want to try banning those?
Nope. Because a knife is a lot harder to kill with than a gun and it doesn't insulate you from the act. You will, literally, get blood on your hands. And that requires a stronger stomach than pointing a gun at someone and making a small hole in them from a distance.

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Now, if I'm somewhere and some miscreant starts shooting at me, and all I have is that knife, I can't very well say to him, "hey you, come here" now can I?
How often has that happened to you?

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You are terribly mistaken that I consider myself to have the right to murder someone at my whim, I have no such thing. I have the greatest respect for life, unless it's trying to kill me. What I have the right to is the capability to defend myself, and the tools necessary to do so.
So you need a weapon capable of mass murder to defend yourself with. How many fucking enemies do you have?


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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 11:59:18 AM   
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Well, you may be unstable, your emotion-driven outburst supports such an assessment, but you are mistaken to project that on others.
Dude, everyone's unstable. Anyone who thinks they're not is delusional.

Man, and I don't even get high from it, I'm disappointed. Splain to me in this context, how it is that almost everyone, and particularly almost all gun owners, make it through life without going all mass-murdery on us.

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In fact, I drove a school bus for several years, and if that doesn't make you want to shoot the little boogers, there's not much that will. Fact is, if I wanted to murder children, a knife would probably be more effective. It's quiet, and if you cut them right the only noise they make will be "gurgle". You want to try banning those?
Nope. Because a knife is a lot harder to kill with than a gun and it doesn't insulate you from the act. You will, literally, get blood on your hands. And that requires a stronger stomach than pointing a gun at someone and making a small hole in them from a distance.

Well, if you're keen on killing people, a little blood won't slow you down. I've had plenty on me from hunting and skinning critters. I mostly just want to eat it, even though my iron doesn't test low. It's especially good when it's congealed a little. It's also quite easy to kill someone with a knife. I mean, you're not limited to just stabbing them overhand like Norman Bates.

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Now, if I'm somewhere and some miscreant starts shooting at me, and all I have is that knife, I can't very well say to him, "hey you, come here" now can I?
How often has that happened to you?

Well, it hasn't so far, and it's fine with me if it never does, but it's like having a fire extinguisher, if your car's on fire (this has happened to me) it's too late to go to the store and buy an extinguisher. I had one in the trunk.

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You are terribly mistaken that I consider myself to have the right to murder someone at my whim, I have no such thing. I have the greatest respect for life, unless it's trying to kill me. What I have the right to is the capability to defend myself, and the tools necessary to do so.
So you need a weapon capable of mass murder to defend yourself with. How many fucking enemies do you have?

If I have any, they haven't told me about it but I'd just need one. If I came home with 28 in the mag and one in the chamber, mission accomplished, I came home. I also have a car that can go 160, but I don't do that, either.




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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 12:46:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mrevibo
Why is it that I should be maltreated by my .gov because some other guy is a dick?
Why should innocent children die just so you can buy a weapon to compensate for your small dick?

Ahhhh....here we go with the "...but the children..." argument. With the typical 'making up for masculine deficiency' insult thrown in for good measure.
If the shoe fits... I mean you guys with your "home defense" guacamola are comprehensively full of shit. We don't see you extolling the virtues of locks, alarm systems or security doors or posing with those fucking things. Of course not. All you do is pose with a gun because you've gotten this insane idea that possessing a firearm turns you into man - instead of a pussy who's afraid of getting his hands dirty.

There's a deep psychological need inside of chronic gun owners that causes them to equate gun removal with castration - because you've built your sense of identity and personal power around possession of a gun. I mean, it's obvious as fuck and yet you don't realise how fucking weak it makes you look.

quote:

What's next? The "even if it saves only one life, isn't shredding the Bill of Rights worth it" argument?
Five bucks says you can't quote any amendments in the Bill of Rights besides the first and second without looking it up. And if modifying an amendment is equivalent to "shredding the Bill of Rights", then I presume you feel the country went to the dogs when the 13th amendment "shredded the Constitution" by outlawing.. oh.. what was that thing again..... oh yeah... SLAVERY.

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Tell me, Awareness...how many children were IN Pulse?
No idea. How many were in Sandy Hook, you witless cretin? In fact, here's an idea, how many children have died so you can posture with a weapon and pretend you're a man? Let's check how many school shootings the USA has: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

My my, there do seem to be a lot of them. One would almost think there's a connection between availability of guns and deaths due to firearms.

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Meanwhile, in the real world...and keep in mind that 46 states have banned texting while driving, as have D. C., Puerto Rico, Guam and the Virgin Islands. ( see http://www.ncsl.org/research/transportation/cellular-phone-use-and-texting-while-driving-laws.aspx
I see, so you have no problem with banning the use of certain functions on cellphones but banning high-powered weapons whose only purpose is to allow you to murder people is an infringement upon your most basic and important rights.

Are you high?

No, I'm not high. I'm at work, providing health care to people. You however...given your emotional, sneering, personal attacks...I would suspect of being do. But once again, your assumptions are showing:

I have two locks on my front door and two on my back door. I have motion sensor lights that come on whenever someone gets close enough to set them off. I also have a .38 on my nightstand in case those locks are not deterrent enough. I also like to go to the gun range once in awhile. It's the only gun I own. No AK-47, No AR -15, No 30-06. But, just because I choose to own a revolver instead of a rifle doesn't mean I get to choose for the next man or woman what weapon they can have to defend their home or go to the gun range or hunt with, as long as its legal.

So...I don't own a AR-15, I do have locks and a security system in place and I own a gun...for defense of myself and others in my home.
Even though it's only a handgun, does that still make me equate it's removal with psychological castration because I find my manhood in it? I don't suppose I might find my manhood in remaining close to my daughters even through a divorce and rebellion, in taking care of patients for 33 years, of serving with the 82ND in the 70's, in paying my bills, in enjoying our shared hot rod hobby with my nephews, fixing up my house. Nope...according to you, it is the gun alone.

The Bill of Rights. Tell me, Awareness...how would I prove that to you? How would you know, other than your presumption, that I could not? How would you prove your knowledge of them to me? Two computers lie between us so...other than your presumption...your bet is based on nothing. Certainly not on what I know.

I have no problem with Amendments being added when the basis for the Amendment has been proven right and necessary...such as the 13th Amendment... or repealed when proven wrong...such as the 18th being repealed by the 21St Amendment. But the Bill of Rights, while part of the Constitution, are something more.

Witless cretin? Because I disagree with what you and other gun-grabbers are saying...that somehow the gun is at fault or the ease of obtaining one rather than the true fault? The true fault is the man who, whether motivated by religion or by a deep-seated denial of himself, CHOSE to murder people. He made that choice. As did the other shooters. The fact that you want to brush him and his motivations aside and focus solely on the gun makes you appear to be the one operating on emotion, not wit. Well...that and the fact that you don't know that there were no children inside the club.

Finally...you're right. I do not have a problem with banning certain functions on cell phones WHILE DRIVING. Indeed, I have no problem with banning weapons whose SOLE purpose is murder. A grenade launcher? A flame-thrower? A fully automatic rifle? Nope, no one needs those. But...this weapon is not those.


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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 12:58:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
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ORIGINAL: mrevibo
Why is it that I should be maltreated by my .gov because some other guy is a dick?
Why should innocent children die just so you can buy a weapon to compensate for your small dick?

Ahhhh....here we go with the "...but the children..." argument. With the typical 'making up for masculine deficiency' insult thrown in for good measure.
If the shoe fits... I mean you guys with your "home defense" guacamola are comprehensively full of shit. We don't see you extolling the virtues of locks, alarm systems or security doors or posing with those fucking things. Of course not. All you do is pose with a gun because you've gotten this insane idea that possessing a firearm turns you into man - instead of a pussy who's afraid of getting his hands dirty.

There's a deep psychological need inside of chronic gun owners that causes them to equate gun removal with castration - because you've built your sense of identity and personal power around possession of a gun. I mean, it's obvious as fuck and yet you don't realise how fucking weak it makes you look.

quote:

What's next? The "even if it saves only one life, isn't shredding the Bill of Rights worth it" argument?
Five bucks says you can't quote any amendments in the Bill of Rights besides the first and second without looking it up. And if modifying an amendment is equivalent to "shredding the Bill of Rights", then I presume you feel the country went to the dogs when the 13th amendment "shredded the Constitution" by outlawing.. oh.. what was that thing again..... oh yeah... SLAVERY.

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Tell me, Awareness...how many children were IN Pulse?
No idea. How many were in Sandy Hook, you witless cretin? In fact, here's an idea, how many children have died so you can posture with a weapon and pretend you're a man? Let's check how many school shootings the USA has: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

My my, there do seem to be a lot of them. One would almost think there's a connection between availability of guns and deaths due to firearms.

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Meanwhile, in the real world...and keep in mind that 46 states have banned texting while driving, as have D. C., Puerto Rico, Guam and the Virgin Islands. ( see http://www.ncsl.org/research/transportation/cellular-phone-use-and-texting-while-driving-laws.aspx
I see, so you have no problem with banning the use of certain functions on cellphones but banning high-powered weapons whose only purpose is to allow you to murder people is an infringement upon your most basic and important rights.

Are you high?

No, I'm not high. I'm at work, providing health care to people. You however...given your emotional, sneering, personal attacks...I would suspect of being do. But once again, your assumptions are showing:

I have two locks on my front door and two on my back door. I have motion sensor lights that come on whenever someone gets close enough to set them off. I also have a .38 on my nightstand in case those locks are not deterrent enough. I also like to go to the gun range once in awhile. It's the only gun I own. No AK-47, No AR -15, No 30-06. But, just because I choose to own a revolver instead of a rifle doesn't mean I get to choose for the next man or woman what weapon they can have to defend their home or go to the gun range or hunt with, as long as its legal.

So...I don't own a AR-15, I do have locks and a security system in place and I own a gun...for defense of myself and others in my home.
Even though it's only a handgun, does that still make me equate it's removal with psychological castration because I find my manhood in it? I don't suppose I might find my manhood in remaining close to my daughters even through a divorce and rebellion, in taking care of patients for 33 years, of serving with the 82ND in the 70's, in paying my bills, in enjoying our shared hot rod hobby with my nephews, fixing up my house. Nope...according to you, it is the gun alone.

The Bill of Rights. Tell me, Awareness...how would I prove that to you? How would you know, other than your presumption, that I could not? How would you prove your knowledge of them to me? Two computers lie between us so...other than your presumption...your bet is based on nothing. Certainly not on what I know.

I have no problem with Amendments being added when the basis for the Amendment has been proven right and necessary...such as the 13th Amendment... or repealed when proven wrong...such as the 18th being repealed by the 21St Amendment. But the Bill of Rights, while part of the Constitution, are something more.

Witless cretin? Because I disagree with what you and other gun-grabbers are saying...that somehow the gun is at fault or the ease of obtaining one rather than the true fault? The true fault is the man who, whether motivated by religion or by a deep-seated denial of himself, CHOSE to murder people. He made that choice. As did the other shooters. The fact that you want to brush him and his motivations aside and focus solely on the gun makes you appear to be the one operating on emotion, not wit. Well...that and the fact that you don't know that there were no children inside the club.

Finally...you're right. I do not have a problem with banning certain functions on cell phones WHILE DRIVING. Indeed, I have no problem with banning weapons whose SOLE purpose is murder. A grenade launcher? A flame-thrower? A fully automatic rifle? Nope, no one needs those. But...this weapon is not those.



Awareness' argument, as so many of his arguments are not really well thought out. Driving in this country is a privilege that may be taken away from a citizen by the state. The 2nd amendment is not a priveledge. Equating the two is sloppy thinking.

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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 12:59:45 PM   
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In addition, my locks, motion sensor lights, alarm, cameras don't continue to protect me in any way should I decide to, I don't know, leave the house. They provide me with extensions to my sensory organs, and some warnings to evildoers. Out in the world I have to make do with my situational awareness.

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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 1:25:34 PM   
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In addition, my locks, motion sensor lights, alarm, cameras don't continue to protect me in any way should I decide to, I don't know, leave the house. They provide me with extensions to my sensory organs, and some warnings to evildoers. Out in the world I have to make do with my situational awareness.

While that's correct, the disturbing thing is that Awareness really seems to believe that the macho and proper thing to to in life, is to subvert your personal safety to outside sources. Police, locks, motion sensors, anything but self. Of course he stopped the police thingy when it was pointed out that the police have no responsibility to protect anyone as well as no means. Now he's at the just down to objects, as long as those objects are Awareness approved.

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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 3:30:04 PM   
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ar-15-orlando_us_576059f3e4b0e4fe5143fd4d?

ORLANDO, Fla. — It took us 38 minutes to walk out of a gun shop with a death machine.




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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 4:08:30 PM   
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How often has that happened to you?


Only 4 or five times.

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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 5:32:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

How often has that happened to you?


Only 4 or five times.

It has never happened to you, you sit on the porch and wiggle your dick at the pizza boy.

You don't know shit about guns.

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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 8:22:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

How often has that happened to you?


Only 4 or five times.

It has never happened to you, you sit on the porch and wiggle your dick at the pizza boy.

You don't know shit about guns.

And you know this because

A You sit across the street from my house watching 24/7 right?
Or

B You think you are psychic?
Or
C You just make things up and expect us to believe them.

My money is on B.

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Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 9:02:11 PM   
mnottertail


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

How often has that happened to you?


Only 4 or five times.

It has never happened to you, you sit on the porch and wiggle your dick at the pizza boy.

You don't know shit about guns.

And you know this because

A You sit across the street from my house watching 24/7 right?
Or

B You think you are psychic?
Or
C You just make things up and expect us to believe them.

My money is on B.

Because I know you are a constant liar, do you want to make some more asswipe up? Just slobber hallucinatory shit out of your rather defective head? How many states allow .223 for deer hunting? How many allow .17?

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Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


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RE: 38 min. to buy AR-15, run on them in Orlando - 6/15/2016 9:22:39 PM   
BamaD


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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

How often has that happened to you?


Only 4 or five times.

It has never happened to you, you sit on the porch and wiggle your dick at the pizza boy.

You don't know shit about guns.

And you know this because

A You sit across the street from my house watching 24/7 right?
Or

B You think you are psychic?
Or
C You just make things up and expect us to believe them.

My money is on B.

Because I know you are a constant liar, do you want to make some more asswipe up? Just slobber hallucinatory shit out of your rather defective head? How many states allow .223 for deer hunting? How many allow .17?

Don't now how many do, and I had allowed that some no doubt do.
Haven't checked them a lot lately but used to be that hunting rounds were governed by power, for example at one time (70's) s the 30-30 wasn't alowed for hunting in the Rockies because of the lack of punch at range.
Still no amount of manuervering on your part or mistakes on the part of politicians puts the .223 in the same class as a 30-06 or 7mm mag.
And your answer shows that the answer is, as I thought B.

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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