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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/18/2016 3:44:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Figures show the following percentage changes in police-recorded crime across Australia from 2001 to 2011: fraud down 12 per cent, arson down 14 per cent, criminal damage down 22 per cent, theft down more than 30 per cent and burglaries and robberies down 50 per cent. Even the numbers of homicides, which usually remain relatively stable, decreased by 23 per cent. Car theft was down a staggering 60 per cent, a trend that continues today. "

And not a one of those facts have jack shit to do with guns control.So now they sleep with a baseball bat instead of a gun. You know you can kill with a baseball bat.

They have less crime because they teach their kids respect for others rights, property and privacy. They actually have less rights there, but it seems they are better enforced.

Same with alot of countries. You know, in China there was a protest against a sewage plant and the government went with the will of the people. They are learning since the Tianemen Square incident. They are learning that a happy People is a productive People. Most countries have already learned that, and even though they got less rights, those rights are respected. A notable exception is the US. We got the best Constitution in the world but the people who run the place have absolutely no respect for it and I think even knowledge of it. All the front runners for President do not respect it. Trump and Sanders don't know, Obama doesn't know, and Clinton will disregard it anyway even though I think she knows and is smarter than the rest. But you cannot trust her.

As far as the topic here, neither Trump nor Sanders want to take away the guns. Hillary is a different story. And would someone pleas run against that bitch Diane Feinstein ? If I could vote in that venue I would vote for a fucking snake, dog or monkey against her.

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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/18/2016 3:53:28 PM   
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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/18/2016 4:00:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I very much doubt it. None of my friends or people I know sleep with baseball bats or any other weapon close to hand. Maybe criminals expecting an unfriendly visit from other criminals might sleep tooled-up but they are a little outside my experience these days.

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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/18/2016 4:01:09 PM   
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Well the Aussie numbers are true in my previous posts and sites. Gun murders and gun violence has dropped dramatically since 1996 when restrictions were passed.
Plus we know that to protect yourself and your family is bullshit because for gun ownership in the house to be safe, [it] is for too inaccessible once locked away to provide that safety...to be of any use during a crime in the house.

But the number of murders hasn't really changed.

how about something really interesting fom Australia?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89d_1411198955


Sorta funny, but his defining the arguments against gun control aren't accurate. Clearly he doesn't understand why some Americans oppose further regulation of weapons.


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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/18/2016 4:05:19 PM   
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You have some credible analytic citation that says Ozzie sleeps with baseball bats?




Who, Ozzie Osbourne ? What the fuck are you asking here ?

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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/18/2016 4:08:14 PM   
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I very much doubt it. None of my friends or people I know sleep with baseball bats or any other weapon close to hand. Maybe criminals expecting an unfriendly visit from other criminals might sleep tooled-up but they are a little outside my experience these days.


So nice for you to live in a good neighborhood.

Would you like to pay for others to live in a good neighborhood ?

Three times I have been outside with a gun ready to kill, once in my fucking underwear. They all ran. Now tell me that is not a deterrent.

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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/18/2016 4:11:11 PM   
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I very much doubt it. None of my friends or people I know sleep with baseball bats or any other weapon close to hand. Maybe criminals expecting an unfriendly visit from other criminals might sleep tooled-up but they are a little outside my experience these days.


So nice for you to live in a good neighborhood.

Would you like to pay for others to live in a good neighborhood ?

Three times I have been outside with a gun ready to kill, once in my fucking underwear. They all ran. Now tell me that is not a deterrent.

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You are the neigborhood crazy guy. Ozzies probably sleep with mosquito netting at the most for protection. Maybe air conditioning.

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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/18/2016 4:29:55 PM   
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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/18/2016 4:31:26 PM   
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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/18/2016 4:34:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would guess that the sight of you in your underwear frightened them away more than the threat of the gun Term.....................There are some rough neighbourhoods throughout Australia too, maybe not as bad as the U.S. of course but I doubt that too many sleep tooled up waiting for the next home invasion to happen.

I am sorry but I must be still a bit dopey this morning. It's early. But I fail to see what point you are attempting to make regarding me ( or anybody else) paying for others to live in a 'good neighbourhood' . This is neither a good, nor a bad one. If there IS such a thing, I would define it as fairly normal. But you obviously know this neighbourhood well, maybe better then me, so I will bow to your superior knowledge. Check your calendar though.

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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/18/2016 7:55:24 PM   
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What a moron.

Being a nation of law and being a totalitarian state are worlds apart, idiot.


Usually when one resorts to name-calling they've all but admitted their argument holds no water.

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And knowing what I know now? I opposed it from the start. Still do.

Any thing else irrelevant to the question?


It's very relevant to the question because government will always attempt to increase their control of the populace as illustrated in my examples. Unfortunately, some of The People have forgotten how this country was founded and are more than willing to, gradually, allow more and more of the constitution and bill of rights to be eroded.



in observation of your first.....cite please, and it has to be real credible, because I see that as a jingo, nothing more.

To the second, they may increase control in some ways, but then business and other special interests easily wrest that control and pervert it to their profits. Nobody forgot how this country was founded, a country of business raped the people and taxed them and would not allow them to redress their grievances or have any say in their governance as allowed to all their other citizens.

We have pretty much shit that away and crawled right back into that, wallowing in what we fought against intially. They were happy to pay the tax and obey the laws if they were treated equally as citizens.

Lol, otter tail asking for a relevant citation.

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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/18/2016 8:00:19 PM   
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You have some credible analytic citation that says Ozzie sleeps with baseball bats?



Lol, otter tail asking for credible citations.

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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/19/2016 6:27:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: ifmaz


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

What a moron.

Being a nation of law and being a totalitarian state are worlds apart, idiot.


Usually when one resorts to name-calling they've all but admitted their argument holds no water.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
And knowing what I know now? I opposed it from the start. Still do.

Any thing else irrelevant to the question?


It's very relevant to the question because government will always attempt to increase their control of the populace as illustrated in my examples. Unfortunately, some of The People have forgotten how this country was founded and are more than willing to, gradually, allow more and more of the constitution and bill of rights to be eroded.



in observation of your first.....cite please, and it has to be real credible, because I see that as a jingo, nothing more.

To the second, they may increase control in some ways, but then business and other special interests easily wrest that control and pervert it to their profits. Nobody forgot how this country was founded, a country of business raped the people and taxed them and would not allow them to redress their grievances or have any say in their governance as allowed to all their other citizens.

We have pretty much shit that away and crawled right back into that, wallowing in what we fought against intially. They were happy to pay the tax and obey the laws if they were treated equally as citizens.

Lol, otter tail asking for a relevant citation.


LOL, I provide them, your comment on relevant citations is absurd wilbur since as is common with you pants shitting nutsuckers, there has not been one relevant credible citation amongst the lot of you toiletlickers.

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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/19/2016 7:30:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: blnymph


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Well the Aussie numbers are true in my previous posts and sites. Gun murders and gun violence has dropped dramatically since 1996 when restrictions were passed.

Plus we know that to protect yourself and your family is bullshit because for gun ownership in the house to be safe, [it] is for too inaccessible once locked away to provide that safety...to be of any use during a crime in the house.

But the number of murders hasn't really changed.


how about something really interesting fom Australia?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89d_1411198955



I prefer the anmerican version







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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/19/2016 7:34:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: blnymph
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Well the Aussie numbers are true in my previous posts and sites. Gun murders and gun violence has dropped dramatically since 1996 when restrictions were passed.
Plus we know that to protect yourself and your family is bullshit because for gun ownership in the house to be safe, [it] is for too inaccessible once locked away to provide that safety...to be of any use during a crime in the house.

But the number of murders hasn't really changed.

how about something really interesting fom Australia?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89d_1411198955


Sorta funny, but his defining the arguments against gun control aren't accurate. Clearly he doesn't understand why some Americans oppose further regulation of weapons.




most americans dont understand why the focus is always on assault rifles despite they are the least used for anything.




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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/19/2016 7:53:49 AM   
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You have some credible analytic citation that says Ozzie sleeps with baseball bats?



Lol, otter tail asking for credible citations.

LOL, wilbur being a toileltlicking nutsucker, never having given a credible citation in his life or his many socks lives.

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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/19/2016 9:43:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

You have some credible analytic citation that says Ozzie sleeps with baseball bats?



Lol, otter tail asking for credible citations.

LOL, wilbur being a toileltlicking nutsucker, never having given a credible citation in his life or his many socks lives.


I'm not sure you're referring to yourself or someone else.

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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/19/2016 9:47:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		You having some trouble with the English language? Not sure what you are referring to that I am referring to.

You got more?

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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/21/2016 10:00:34 AM   
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RE: The Facts That Neither Side Admits About Gun Control - 6/21/2016 10:06:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		nope, I am referring to shitlicking retards such as yourself in general and wilbur in that specific case.

Its simple English, your felchgobbling has rotted your brain, and you aint got a fucking thing to work with to begin with.

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