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OsideGirl -> RE: Dominance and submissiveness in evolutionary biology - what are people's thoughts on this ? (7/15/2016 8:34:24 AM)

I find it to be a very flawed piece of writing. If anything, I believe that what individuals are seeking from are partner is even more diverse than it was in the past. (Pretty much anytime you assume something about an entire population, you're wrong)

I would suggest a really good book "Sperm Wars" which actually makes much more sense than the what the OP posted.

https://www.amazon.com/Sperm-Wars-Science-Robin-Baker/dp/0788160044/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468599735&sr=8-2&keywords=sperm+wars




blnymph -> RE: Dominance and submissiveness in evolutionary biology - what are people's thoughts on this ? (7/15/2016 8:50:34 AM)

It's the kind of "I know because I still live in stone age" report.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Dominance and submissiveness in evolutionary biology - what are people's thoughts on this ? (7/15/2016 9:33:25 AM)

Alpha! beta! opens the door for gamma malarkey. The swelling, and deep throbbing in my pantaloons regions showers everyone , or is that cock malarkey, no matter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOXpKUu6pUg

I always like the word rainbow/spectrum. This is humanity.

I could go onto discuss Desmond Morris and Freud and epsilon 3




kb1968 -> RE: Dominance and submissiveness in evolutionary biology - what are people's thoughts on this ? (7/15/2016 5:46:16 PM)

For the vast majority of the human species time on this planet, we lived as hunter/ gatherers. This we know as fact. These humans lived in tribes numbering up to not many more than 150 people, this we can reasonably confidently assume, as any more than that number becomes too fractious to control. Nobody, not even the most popular politician, can know many more than that number to enough depth to have a meaningful relationahip with.

After that, behaviour and patterns are mere theory and speculation. Our hunter/ gatherer grandparents had few possessions, no writing implements and no way to leave a marker for us. I read recently, that is is probably likely that females mated with as many men as possible, to obtain the protection of a larger number of men who 'might' be daddy to her offspring. This gives her children the best chance of survival within a small community. It is even suggested that primitive society was unclear as to whether or not babies were made by one mans sperm, or several mens sperm bandied together to make a 'super' offspring.

My point is, that, while it is fun to theorise and contemplate evolutionary habits and preferences, we really have no idea what women preferred, with whom, and how often. It is most probable that different tribes of hunter/ gatherers formed their own norms, some being paternalistic and patriarchal, others more egalatarian, still others living in nuclear families.

Fun to theorise, impossible to prove.




longwayhome -> RE: Dominance and submissiveness in evolutionary biology - what are people's thoughts on this ? (7/16/2016 5:43:16 PM)

Evolutionary psychology taken to ridiculous extremes.

There are so many possible strategies for staying alive, successful reproduction, and being part of your children's upbringing. Species after species demonstrates this with examples of the success of dominant and less dominant individuals. Primate societies show many examples of this, such as females preferring coitus with less dominant loners from outside the tribe, despite the risks.

Also coming right up to the present there are often big disparities between people's behaviour at work or in public, and what they do with their families and most intimate relationships.

The simple binary of Dom men and sub women is just laughable. People choose who they take shit from. There are plenty of very "alpha" males who do exactly what they are told at home.

This is lazy reactionary social politics masquerading as science.




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