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mnottertail -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/29/2016 11:53:47 AM)
Your circlefelch is even more intimate and toiletlicking felchgobbling now.

bounty44 -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/29/2016 11:56:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD I now have him and his bloodbrother on hide. I think that's a wise decision and I hope others follow suit.

mnottertail -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/29/2016 12:27:18 PM)
You should make wise decisions you gaybasher, but you dont so you are in your little circle felch with your other felchers in the airport bathrooms.

AtUrCervix -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/29/2016 6:50:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or You people pick on the NRA and think they are all nuts, but I have yet to see one report of any of their members going postal, or even committing a murder and in fact any crime at all. Their goal is to keep laws from being passed that violate the Constitution, does that sound like a bunch of criminals to you ? The NRA used to sponsor gun safety classes and actually had advertisers selling liability insurance in their publication. Do the hoplophobes here read any of their publications ? Or ever have ? Admittedly I have not for a while and I will not join because then your name is on a list and I have that much distrust for this government that I believe one day they will get that list and go door to door. Maybe not now, but in the future. They keep on getting more and more totalitarian by the week and they are never going to back off until the final collapse. And when, not if that happens you really better have guns. Other countries are stable, it is different there. This is here. What's more, liberals spend all kinds of tie figuring out how to thwart the Constitution and that includes the second amendment, but what do you expect from people who actually do realize that they are the ones who need to be shot ? Gunophobes will never get what they want. Years ago a friend of mine shot some punk in the back and got away with it. Why ? Because he had stolen a gun and my friend believed he had a duty to stop this thug. He did not want to see his gun used to hurt anyone who didn't deserve it. The cops put him on ice for 72 hours but in the end he was not charged, and they even gave back the gun he used to shoot the punk. I watched his house while he was detained in case others came and wanted to burn him out or whatever. Does that sound nuts to you ? The only mistake he made was to not keep all but one gun locked up, but he had a rack on the wall. People used to have those. Know why they could have those ? Because people had respect for each other and the others property. Well actually his other mistake was hooking up with this ditzy broad who let the thug in the house. I went over her Mother's house asking questions trying to find out where this punk went but she didn't know she said, and the cops caught him a day or two later at the hospital. Of course he had to go there to get pain killers. I had a pain killer for that motherfucker. Even though I am not a member of that or any other organization I understand the mentality. You KILL criminals. If they are in your house without your permission and especially if the steal or vandalise your stuff, you ARE judge, jury and executioner. And the supreme court agrees. The evidence is conclusive if they are there, period. Now that the supreme court agrees, how crazy are they ? But the bottom line is people will support the NAACP, La Raza, anything but a White group, and the NRA, while they do have plenty of minority members, is mainly a White group. Actually they did reach out many years ago to minorities, even offered a discount on the dues for the first couple years but met with little success. Know why ? The minorities did not want their names on a list that will eventually fall into government hands. That is why I don't get a CCW. Almost every other country on this planet has taken the guns away from the People. You think it can't happen here ? You want to stop school shootings, ban Prozac, SSRIs, ADHD drugs, all psychotropic drugs. Make the shrink work for their money instead of just writing prescriptions. When you look at these mass shooters, I defy you to find one that was an NRA member. What's more, I defy you to find many that were not on some sort of prescribed psyche drug. So troubleshoot the problem logically and get back to me. I am tired of the bullshit. T^T Termyn8or....some of your comments strike me...with brilliance...others appall me....this one....appalls me... It's really not terribly important what your point was...your intent was clear...gun control is "not the issue"....and... Your point was (as I understand it) that drugs designed for those with troubles should be banned. Let's just leave the gun issue out entirely....I'll let someone else delve in on that one. Mental illness is real. (It's crazy.....imagine that.....crazy). It's so unnerving....so unexpected....so......well.....crazy. So unbelievably sad. Sooooo.....something that so may families are unprepared for. It's sooooo debilitating. It's devastating. Pocketbook.....emotional.... And...it's sooooooo real. I know families that are ripped apart by this menace. Financially....emotionally....and in fact. I could go on for years about how Reagan EVISCERATED mental health care in the early 80's, left families dangling....and no one has stepped up since. I could go on for years as to how many families have been destroyed by assumptions....by lack..... Financially DESTROYED by their own desire to see their children cared for....literally having their finances stripped from them...to care for their own. And yet....they gave every penny......every penny. Mental health is a real issue.....it's not caused by Monsanto.....the average male schizophrenic....."hits" at about age 23.....the numbers for women are far lower and begin 3 - 7 years later... There's a HUGE need for mental health care in this country and it doesn't STOP at your doorstep or mine. It stops at every door step. Yours included. And the beginning of health care begins with all of us...caring. (I'm off my soap box now).

lovmuffin -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/29/2016 8:21:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: markyugen For me the question is: Since the NRA represents only 6% of gun owners in the US, and currently advocates radical positions that are not shared by the majority of gun owners, why are they so immensely powerful a voice on the issues of guns? Why have the “silent majority” of gun owners who do not hold the extreme positions of the NRA, been “locked out” of the gun debate? Is it simply a question of $? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/15/most-gun-owners-dont-belong-to-the-nra-and-they-dont-agree-with-it-either/ To answer your questions, I believe the majority of gun owners do hold the same or similar views as the NRA. No one is being locked out in any significant numbers. I think the Washington Post is way overstating its case and the graph is flawed. Gun control is not likely going to pass in the house unless there is a large number of Representatives willing to sacrifice their jobs. And likely there is a high risk for some Senators as well. There was a stiff cost for Democrats when Congress passed the assault weapons ban in 1994. Months later, the Republicans, backed by not only the still outraged gun owners and NRA, but rank and file police officers who themselves personally own these types of firearms, routed the Democrats in the midterm election gaining 54 seats and control of the House for the first time in 40 years. Clinton even said that voting for the the assault weapons ban had cost about 20 House Democrats their seats. And all of that because of a bill that merely banned cosmetic features on these so called "assualt weapons" which were easily skirted by the manufacturers. If Obama and others want to confront gun owners and the NRA, they're going to have a real tough time of it. Just for one example you can look at the sheriffs in Colorado. Most of them are against that stupid gun control measure passed in their state. Many have publicly stated they will not enforce the law. Many sheriffs across the country have publicly stated they not only won't enforce federal gun control but will appose any feds stepping into their counties trying to do so. So any sort of weapons ban would likely turn into a cluster fuck for the Democrats. There is a reason the NRA is so powerful. ETA: And not only that but it's the gun control advocates who would literally ban an entire class of firearms, who are extreme.

mnottertail -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 8:10:29 AM)
the 1994 wins had nothing to do with the NRA or guns. it was mostly over proposed healthcare reform.

bounty44 -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 2:00:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail the 1994 wins had nothing to do with the NRA or guns. it was mostly over proposed healthcare reform. "Does The National Rifle Association Affect Federal Elections?" quote: Executive Summary: • It seems intuitively obvious that interest group endorsements influence elections, and do so most effectively in districts where the group’s membership is greatest. However, scholarly research has been unable to prove whether the intuition is correct. • This Issue Paper offers an empirical test of interest group influence on election outcomes. • The Issue Paper examines the impact of the National Rifle Association in U.S. House of Representatives elections. Using data from the 1994 and 1996 elections, the Paper examines to what degree, if any, a NRA endorsement in a race affected the percent of the vote which an endorsed candidate received. • The estimation formula controls for other variables, such as party voting registration, the district’s support of presidential candidates of each party, and campaign spending. • The Issue Paper uses a similar model to test whether the NRA has greater ability to influence elections in districts where NRA membership is larger. • The data show that, in general, a NRA endorsement can raise a candidate’s share of the vote by approximately 3% per 10,000 NRA members in the district. Thus, in a district with 20,000 NRA members, the NRA endorsement might add 6% to a candidate’s share of the vote. • Challengers benefit more from endorsements than do incumbents. For challengers, there is a potential total gain of 5% on election day for every 10,000 NRA members in the district. quote: Introduction Does the NRA have any effect as an organized interest group? The conventional wisdom is that interest group activity has an effect on electionoutcomes. Academic research has, until now, been unable to demonstrate that conventional wisdom right or wrong.1 In a multi-year study of the impact of the NRA’s endorsement of federal candidates,we have uncovered the first empirical evidence that the NRA’s political efforts have direct, detectable political impact in federal elections. In this Issue Paper we describe how our interest in this effect was aroused and what was found... In the four modeling exercises there are 18 times where the NRA variable (endorsement or membership) was tested. Of these, 13 indicated an effect: either a gain for the challenger or endorsee or a loss of votes for the opponent. Of the 13, 5 met the customary 95% level of statistical significance and 4 more met a 90% standard. There was a clear difference between the two election years; NRA effects were clearly greater in 1994... Conclusions Most research on the electoral impact of organized interest groups reports that groups have a negligible impact. Our study of the effects of the NRA in congressional elections of 1994 and 1996 indicates otherwise. The pattern of endorsements and the reaction by the membership led to real, substantive electoral results. Though Interest Group effects have been hypothesized for more than 50 years, this Issue Paper demonstrates the effect through empirical research. The magnitude of these effects cannot be ignored. Forty-six races in 1994 and 38 races in 1996 were decided by four points or less, meaning the NRA can potentially swing an election with its endorsement and membership numbers given the right electoral context. So, does the NRA have any political impact? The answer is yes. This interest group gathers information on gun control and other issues important to the members, disseminates the information to the membership, represents its members to elected officials, reports to the membership the behaviors of elected officials, and helps shape public opinion on some issues. http://www.davekopel.com/2A/OthWr/Does-the-NRA-Influence-Federal-Elections.pdf maybe the authors were nutsuckers??

mnottertail -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 2:14:17 PM)
Dave Kopel nutsucker, the independence institute, nutsuckers, the researchers nutsuckers. A nutsucker slobber blog, by nutsuckers, for nutsuckers, in the nutsucker propaganda arm of a nutsucker think tank. You got anything by the National Enquirer as well, or is this as factual as Judge Jeannie and Judge Nappie?

bounty44 -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 2:15:22 PM)
maybe try critiquing the actual research vile critter parts?? you know, the "address the content as opposed the messenger" mantra that apparently youre a (hypocritical) part of? do you have any idea what a fool you look like? "Gun control policy of the Clinton Administration" quote: Federal assault weapons ban[edit] One year after signing the Brady Law, White House lobbying also played a role in the passage of the 1994 Crime Bill, which included the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, commonly known as the Federal Assault Weapons Ban. The law banned certain semi-automatic firearms with two or more specific design features, and also prohibited the manufacture of ammunition magazines that held over ten rounds.[9] Although initially heralded as a victory for Clinton and Democrats in congress, it proved costly.[2] The bill energized the NRA and Republican base, and contributed to the Republican takeover of both houses in the 1994 mid-term elections. Many Democrats who had supported Clinton's gun control measures were ousted, including Speaker Tom Foley. Clinton acknowledged that he had hurt Democrats with his victories. maybe bill Clinton is a nutsucker too? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_policy_of_the_Clinton_Administration quote: In the 1990s, Bill Clinton had shrewdly folded in gun control with a tough-on-crime agenda, which helped him win the presidency in 1992 and pass the Federal Assault Weapons Ban in 1994. But politically Clinton was vulnerable on these issues because his coalition—and indeed his very political raison d’être—was based on an appeal to working class whites, especially in rural areas and in the South. The stunning loss of Congress in 1994 was partly blamed on an anti–gun control backlash. https://newrepublic.com/article/134586/democrats-no-longer-gun-shy

mnottertail -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 2:46:53 PM)
nutsucker44, those of us who lived thru it know you are slobbering toiletwater. not a single nutsucker who voted for that bill lost their seat. That alone, never mind anything else says the NRA wasn't shit to do with it. Felchgobbler44, you are hysterically pantshitting over your nutsucker slobberblogs, you had to have been alive during this, although I know you are not sentient, NRA involvement was nothing. I addressed the content: factless nutsucker rewrite of history, a nutsucker slobber blog for undiscerning shiteating nutsuckers.

Termyn8or -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 7:13:54 PM)
"I did mean either, but if the situation permits you should use both. " Agreed, shooting someone is a serious thing. you have to be as sure as possible that you kill the person (animal, thug, whatever) that needs killing and nobody else. T^T

BamaD -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 7:21:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or "I did mean either, but if the situation permits you should use both. " Agreed, shooting someone is a serious thing. you have to be as sure as possible that you kill the person (animal, thug, whatever) that needs killing and nobody else. T^T There are only 2 reasons to kill, A if you are going to eat it B If it is going to harm you(or yours)

Termyn8or -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 7:31:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD I now have him and his bloodbrother on hide. I think that's a wise decision and I hope others follow suit. No. Why ? Because seven billion people can read their bullshit and if they are on hide for us we will not respond to it. Sign out, you will see their posts. That means newcomers see their posts until they get a membership and hide them. It reflects on the members here and the website as well. At FL it is different, you HAVE to be a member to read anything there, but here everything is public. In fact over on FL in Collarme Refugees someone asked if if all the moderators dropped dead here or something. Ron is obviously deranged. That is not meant as an insult, it is an observation. I bet he has a real hard time in real life because of it. It is more appropriate to feel sorry for his anti-social ass than to hate him. Maybe he likes to be hated. But even he will not get that from me. Hate is a choice and I will not choose it unless he personally comes here and fucks with my family or chosen family. If he does that he will be dead in seconds. But he hasn't and is not likely to so he is classified as an irritant. About as smart as neighbors playing loud rap music. BOOM MUFUKA BOOM MUFUKA BOOM MUFUKA shit. That is about the mentality. And runs a pawnshop ? Well that requires about a 50 IQ, if that. Naw, I have no problem looking at the jism he posts. If he gets banned well OK, but that might never happen. Hell, he might have bought stock in the place ad that is why they put up with him. I don't really care much. If he shows up at my house I am liable to hit him upside the head with a two by four and tell the cops he was trying to steal something. And I KNOW how to talk to cops and make them believe me. I would not shoot him. Not worth the round. T^T

BamaD -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 7:42:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD I now have him and his bloodbrother on hide. I think that's a wise decision and I hope others follow suit. No. Why ? Because seven billion people can read their bullshit and if they are on hide for us we will not respond to it. Sign out, you will see their posts. That means newcomers see their posts until they get a membership and hide them. It reflects on the members here and the website as well. At FL it is different, you HAVE to be a member to read anything there, but here everything is public. In fact over on FL in Collarme Refugees someone asked if if all the moderators dropped dead here or something. Ron is obviously deranged. That is not meant as an insult, it is an observation. I bet he has a real hard time in real life because of it. It is more appropriate to feel sorry for his anti-social ass than to hate him. Maybe he likes to be hated. But even he will not get that from me. Hate is a choice and I will not choose it unless he personally comes here and fucks with my family or chosen family. If he does that he will be dead in seconds. But he hasn't and is not likely to so he is classified as an irritant. About as smart as neighbors playing loud rap music. BOOM MUFUKA BOOM MUFUKA BOOM MUFUKA shit. That is about the mentality. And runs a pawnshop ? Well that requires about a 50 IQ, if that. Naw, I have no problem looking at the jism he posts. If he gets banned well OK, but that might never happen. Hell, he might have bought stock in the place ad that is why they put up with him. I don't really care much. If he shows up at my house I am liable to hit him upside the head with a two by four and tell the cops he was trying to steal something. And I KNOW how to talk to cops and make them believe me. I would not shoot him. Not worth the round. T^T Not worth hating, sure not worth killing. No way I would want to be around him, or his blood brother. The both live in a fantasy world, but he is deeper into fantasy land than his blood brother. But they are both out there. From what I have seen on as the collar turns he is getting more deranged than ever. I really do wish someone would get him help, and most assuredly get him away from firearms. Between his warped world view and Tommy spending over a month begging someone, anyone, to pay him to shoot them, they must be poster boys for handgun control.

thompsonx -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 7:49:31 PM)
ORIGINAL: BamaD He is just a bitter old man who hates everyone and everything. Not so...my welfare cheque comes on time and my drugs are delivered by a uniformed emisary of the united states federal government. It is not hate. It is a love I have for deflating gas bags, those pussilanimous pussyfooters who pander and prevaricate are my objective. He doesn't care about making a point he just wants to agrivate. The points I make seem to be too difficult for you to deal with so you have wisely absented your unarmed self from a battle of wits. That is why I put him and his twin back on hide. I am on hide because you are incapable of defending your position. You are incapable of defending your position because: Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

JeffBC -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 7:50:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD There are only 2 reasons to kill, A if you are going to eat it B If it is going to harm you(or yours) I tend to agree with you. Sadly, there are lots and lots and LOTS of other reasons to kill that our society enshrines. For instance, they have some oil we want is a perfectly sound reason. Or, domestically, he was wearing a hoodie so he scared me.

thompsonx -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 8:11:59 PM)
ORIGINAL: BamaD Not worth hating, sure not worth killing. tuff guy?[8\|] No way I would want to be around him, or his blood brother. Yet you follow me where ever I go claiming to have me on hide[8\|] The both live in a fantasy world, but he is deeper into fantasy land than his blood brother. If you are refering to the "scripts" I give the ladies at the butt hut you don't know the half of it[:D] But they are both out there. If you are happy with your hum drum life and the relationship you have with the pizza guy, good on you. Myself I would prefer to help support single moms.with my fantasies and my welfare cheque. From what I have seen on as the collar turns he is getting more deranged than ever. Well er ummm how else could you see my post since you have me on "hide"[8\|] I really do wish someone would get him help, and most assuredly get him away from firearms. Actually the mililtary somewhat encouraged my fantasy that I was bullet proof...they even loaned me a rifle and gave me all the bullets I could fire...So while alcohol and firearms don't mix well fantasy can and often does.[;)] Between his warped world view and Tommy spending over a month begging someone, anyone, to pay him to shoot them, Your memory is more than a little inaccurate. A possie of chairborn rangers, which included you, claimed that the shot was not possible>>>but were less than enthusiastic about proving it>>>something about an alligator mouth and a canary ass. Jesus you are a phoquing liar.

thompsonx -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 8:28:22 PM)
ORIGINAL: lovmuffin To answer your questions, I believe the majority of gun owners do hold the same or similar views as the NRA. No one is being locked out in any significant numbers. I think the Washington Post is way overstating its case and the graph is flawed. Well I guess that settles it[8\|]not. I am sure you think your opinon is something more substantial but it aint Gun control is not likely going to pass in the house unless there is a large number of Representatives willing to sacrifice their jobs. And likely there is a high risk for some Senators as well. There was a stiff cost for Democrats when Congress passed the assault weapons ban in 1994. Months later, the Republicans, backed by not only the still outraged gun owners and NRA, but rank and file police officers who themselves personally own these types of firearms, routed the Democrats in the midterm election gaining 54 seats and control of the House for the first time in 40 years. Why do you trot out that lame shit. It was not gun control that did that so why do you claim it did? Clinton even said that voting for the the assault weapons ban had cost about 20 House Democrats their seats. Cite please And all of that because of a bill that merely banned cosmetic features on these so called "assualt weapons" which were easily skirted by the manufacturers. Here is something I find quite common. A law is passed and instantly there are a pack of punkassmotherfuckers who seek to circumvent the law.I am not just speaking of gun laws. Consider the 55mph speed law. It's purpose was to conserve a scarse and expensive stratigic resource for our country...do you know anyone who did not seek to circumvent that law? The 13th ammendment freed the slaves and jim crow reenslaved them. It would appear that some of the "law and order" crowd only want law and order for others. If Obama and others want to confront gun owners and the NRA, they're going to have a real tough time of it. He has been doing it for 8 years and what sort of tough time has he had? Just for one example you can look at the sheriffs in Colorado. Most of them are against that stupid gun control measure passed in their state. Many have publicly stated they will not enforce the law. The cops swear a solemn oath before "god" that they will faithfully enforce the law. If they want to be criminals then treat them as such. Lock those punkassmotherfuckers up. Many sheriffs across the country have publicly stated they not only won't enforce federal gun control but will appose any feds stepping into their counties trying to do so. Do you approve of this? So any sort of weapons ban would likely turn into a cluster fuck for the Democrats. There is a reason the NRA is so powerful. How powerful can 1/3 of 1% of the population be? ETA: And not only that but it's the gun control advocates who would literally ban an entire class of firearms, who are extreme. You forgot to add "nanner nanner nanner"

Termyn8or -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 8:32:24 PM)
"Mental health is a real issue.....it's not caused by Monsanto.....the average male schizophrenic....."hits" at about age 23.....the numbers for women are far lower and begin 3 - 7 years later... There's a HUGE need for mental health care in this country and it doesn't STOP at your doorstep or mine. " Some mental health issues are caused by poor nutrition, which Monsanto and Cargill and a few other major food producers cause, but that doesn't make it their fault. They are in business to make money and there is competition and they get paid by the pound. You might not know it, but these cults they got kids to join long ago gave them a diet that lacked protein. I studied psychology when I was young. I was a bookworm. Whenever the family asked what I want for Christmas or whatever I said books, NON-FICTION. Once I read all about psychology the rest of my life became a study of people. It actually stood me off a bit and made it a bit harder to get into close relationships with anyone. But back in the day when there were practically no school shootings, people went to psychologists. They were counselors who helped you work through your problems. they are not legally able to prescribe any drugs. They were overpriced of course, but some were effective. Very effective in bringing out your internal problems that cause you to act out, the hatreds and regrets and whatever. Now you go to a psychiatrists who is legally able to prescribe drugs, and on the first visit they write a scrip. This is wrong and is causing alot of problems. And they cannot predict what any of these psychotropic drugs will do to any particular person. They ffect the brain chemistry but they have not taken apart your brain to find out exactly what it might need. Actually they did back in the 1970s with the L-dopa drugs, but since then it seems to have been trial and error. Personally, no degree or anything, have counseled people out of depression, even suicide. I failed once and that hurt me until I learned to better control my feelings. That guy, a good friend, had Huntington's and he explained why he was going to do it. He explained that it is a congenital disease and his Mother had it and he had it. Like Parkinsons in a way with the tremors but this affects you mind in later stages. You get nuts. He said his Mother would go out driving and get into a wreck and hurt people and simply not give a shit. She was not that way before. And then he watched her strapped down to a bed in a hospital to basically die, because there is no cure. He told me (in confidence but he is dead now) that he was going to do it because he did not want to hurt others, and also wasn't too crazy about they way his Mother died. He hung himself. If what he said was right I really can't disagree. Early after we met, I got a story for you, and true. We worked way east and he lived way west. He drove me to work and back. The very first day he was driving a Ford Escort in the fast lane on I-90. A semi truck did not see us and changed lanes and there was just barely enough room and he drove that car with precision even my family might not be able to match, and we are fucking good. He come from a car family too. Eventually the truck changed lanes to the right and the breath of the sigh of relief was deafening. I said "Just get us to the nearest bar right now". So it came to pass that I usually rode with nim to and from work because I was on the way, and he started hanging around for a ffew beers after work. Once in a while on Fridays I wold just go out to the "strip" (of bars) by his place. He introduced me to Rare Earth - Get ready which I think is an excellent piece of music. And on Saturday morning he made an omelette with everything but the kitchen sink in it. If it was in the fridge and smelled good in it went, and they were good. By the time I was 35 I knew more dead people than alive. I bitched about it saying "This shit is supposed to happen when you are like 60". It affected me in ways nobody will ever know. Think about it, more than half of your friends dead by the time you are 35. But because of how I was raised I could take it. It did harden my heart though, it is about a Rockwell 9.3 now. However that does give me certain advantages though. I can keep a clear head in a bad situation. Ad I do believe that is important. Many years ago a buddy asks me if I had any heroes and I said no. But really, the only ones who come to mind are Spock, in Star Trek. Saved the world, galaxy and universe here and there because he could keep a cool head. And Data, who did pretty much the same. But I do not rise them up to any kind of position of whatever, just what I consider heroic characters in fiction. Other people are different. A while ago they used to go to Blockbuster and rent ten movies a week and they think what is in those movies is real. Now it is Netfliks but it is the same thing. And now all this new shit is unwatchable. All special effects and so much surround sound you can't hear the word. I am pretty much done with it. But I have seen parts of some of these newer movies and can see how they affect people. I'll tell you this, I am sure Hollywood affects politics. And that is wrong. Friend of mine has a saying now that he is older, a bit older than me. Says "Don't know, don't want to know". Unfortunately I already know. Can't seem to forget. I have not watched one debate or anything from these candidates but I can better predict what they're gong to do than people who have watch all of their lies and bullshit. I have experience with cause and effect, my job is and has been for a long time, troubleshooting. I already know what is going to happen but not until the election. I know what powers the President has and does not have. The races in the house and senate are actually more important, believe it or not. Bottom line, back to the point of MY thread, people came up with three murderers in the NRA. Is that all you got ? How many mass murderers and school shooters were even fucking republican ? Look it up. We real conservatives need to take the power back, and I do not mean neo-cons with their global oil policy. I man back to Barry Goldwater of even farther back than that. Get these goddamn globalists out of here so we can have a good country again. And that is what Trump is selling and it might just put him in the big chair, but the fact is he will not be able to deliver. T^T

BamaD -> RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder (6/30/2016 8:42:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JeffBC quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD There are only 2 reasons to kill, A if you are going to eat it B If it is going to harm you(or yours) I tend to agree with you. Sadly, there are lots and lots and LOTS of other reasons to kill that our society enshrines. For instance, they have some oil we want is a perfectly sound reason. Or, domestically, he was wearing a hoodie so he scared me. Sadly in the hoodie case there was the matter of him trying to pound the guys head into the ground.

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