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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle The actual mechanism to leave the EU is to activate Article 50. I note that Cameron has decided to leave this to his successor. It also seems to be the case that none of the leaders of the Leave side are in a hurry to be the person who activates Art 50. As Parliament is said to be 75% pro-Remain, it might be the case that any agreement arising out of invoking Art 50 (if in fact that ever happens) may never get to pass the House of Commons. People can find all kinds of reasons for voting down measures, reasons that don't question the integrity of the referendum result. I think they've all decided that it's the kiss of death to do so, which does call some of the claims that the leave camp were making in advance about how leaving the EU would save the NHS, boost the economy, stop immigration dead, and give everybody a free puppy. Obviously they didn't believe any of that noise themselves, or they'd be keen to claim credit for activating the article. (One interesting issue that arises from all this is that neither house of Parliament is under any obligation to recognise the result of the referendum, though of course, the furore about this has now created a situation where the rest of the EU are insisting that we leave in a hurry.) There are quite a few interesting issues arising post-referendum. It doesn't appear that much thought has been given to the degree of entanglement that many decades of EU membership has brought about. It is open to question whether it is actually possible to disentangle the UK from the EU, or whether any such attempt might prove to be too complex and too far reaching in its consequences to be achievable, desirable or even possible. For example what will happen to that body of law enacted under the auspices of the European treaties that has been the law of the land for some decades now? Will it all be abolished? Will precedents established under these laws continue to be valid? Can it all be retrospectively negated? There are many more areas where disentanglement will throw up thorny problems that might not be open to resolution. Disentanglement is far more complex than anyone is saying. It is far from clear whether it is even possible. So, at the moment for the Leave camp, the job is only half done. Whether they will be able to repeat their success in the referendum and close the deal - and that means the UK actually leaving the EU - is far from clear at the moment. If I was on the Remain side, I wouldn't be as despondent as many of our UK posters are. I think most of those running the leave party from behind the scenes (party donors, rather than front men like Spode and Gove) are rather hoping that the law administered from the EU can be abolished or ignored now. All that nonsense about providing workers with rights and benefits for being employed just isn't British, is it? We didn't do any of that shite when we had an empire that covered a third of the globe, did we? The really funny thing about this is that there's at least three rabidly right wing movements in other EU countries watching to see if we do manage (or even try) to disentangle ourselves before they start demanding their countries need to get out of the EU...
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