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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/3/2016 2:01:32 PM   
WickedsDesire


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Status: offline 		You have so many shootings it sickens me....you have so many I forget which is which. Now, I grew up what 10 miles from dunblane and worked with people whose kids were at that school

Anyhow a clerical error you say. Applying the same logic then anyone who has a gun and shoots people is surely in error, often because they are mad a fuk and should never have been issued license, perhaps a blunt crayon...hmm not that perhaps the idea of a blunt crayon


Actually your continuation allows as mad as fuk folks to have guns..is the bottom line

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/3/2016 2:37:34 PM   
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You have so many shootings it sickens me....you have so many I forget which is which. Now, I grew up what 10 miles from dunblane and worked with people whose kids were at that school

Anyhow a clerical error you say. Applying the same logic then anyone who has a gun and shoots people is surely in error, often because they are mad a fuk and should never have been issued license, perhaps a blunt crayon...hmm not that perhaps the idea of a blunt crayon


Actually your continuation allows as mad as fuk folks to have guns..is the bottom line

Aparently you are, or think you are quoting someone, but it sure wasn't me.
Maybe you should have said who you are responding to.
Of course I have long since given up on expecting you to make sense.

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/3/2016 2:50:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did not quote you I used a quote..I would have named your name if i had quoted you like this BamaDBamaDBamaD

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/3/2016 4:52:23 PM   
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The 2nd Amendment is to blame for a mentally unstable person wreaking havoc on others?

Absolutely
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Are we reading the same Bill of Rights?

Yes, but only one of us is reading it correctly

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/3/2016 4:55:34 PM   
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You mean because they didn't want to live in a police state?

No, I mean that if they had not enshrined the right to bear arms then the mass shootings that are weekly evfents in the US would be far less likely to happen.
As far as your police state, well you already live in one, so apparently the 2nd is a failure on that front.

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/3/2016 6:06:30 PM   
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The 2nd Amendment is to blame for a mentally unstable person wreaking havoc on others?

Absolutely
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Are we reading the same Bill of Rights?

Yes, but only one of us is reading it correctly


I was reading:

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


What was it you were reading?

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/3/2016 6:07:01 PM   
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I did not quote you I used a quote..I would have named your name if i had quoted you like this BamaDBamaDBamaD

Your post says it is to me.

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/3/2016 6:10:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

The 2nd Amendment is to blame for a mentally unstable person wreaking havoc on others?

Absolutely
quote:

Are we reading the same Bill of Rights?

Yes, but only one of us is reading it correctly


I was reading:

quote:


A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


What was it you were reading?


She is a self avowed communist, the individual is only important as part of the collective. Thus there can be no individual rights.

Pretend you are talking to a borg.

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/3/2016 6:44:40 PM   
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It's Roof's fault and no one else's.

It is Roof's fault and only Roof's fault he committed the crime. It is the FBI's fault and the local Sheriff's offices fault he was able to buy a firearm.





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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/4/2016 2:33:37 PM   
ifmaz


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FBI shows NICS checks rise from 1.87M in May to 2.13M in June, nearly 14%. The same time last year had 1.529M checks, meaning June 2016 had nearly 40% more NICS checks.

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/4/2016 2:44:31 PM   
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FBI shows NICS checks rise from 1.87M in May to 2.13M in June, nearly 14%. The same time last year had 1.529M checks, meaning June 2016 had nearly 40% more NICS checks.


It looks as if each month this year had an increase, most of them pretty hefty.

Any thoughts on what this signifies?

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/4/2016 3:59:16 PM   
ThatDizzyChick


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She is a self avowed communist,

Correct
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the individual is only important as part of the collective.

Incorrect, in fact just the opposite.
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Thus there can be no individual rights.

Actually the antithesis of the form of communism I espouse.
quote:

Pretend you are talking to a borg.

Very good advice to those interacting with US right wingers, who all seem to have the exact same positions on various issues.

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/4/2016 4:07:21 PM   
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Well, by extension it is the NRA's fault because as we've been told here time after time, the NRA is the exclusive lobbying arm of the gun manufacturers.

I think that is a lie you will have a difficult time of supporting.



I think your sarcasm detector needs alignment.

T^T

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/4/2016 4:16:39 PM   
thompsonx


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Well, by extension it is the NRA's fault because as we've been told here time after time, the NRA is the exclusive lobbying arm of the gun manufacturers.

I think that is a lie you will have a difficult time of supporting.



I think your sarcasm detector needs alignment.


There is nothing wrong with my crap detector.


< Message edited by thompsonx -- 7/4/2016 4:17:34 PM >

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/4/2016 5:31:42 PM   
BamaD


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

She is a self avowed communist,

Correct
quote:

the individual is only important as part of the collective.

Incorrect, in fact just the opposite.
quote:

Thus there can be no individual rights.

Actually the antithesis of the form of communism I espouse.
quote:

Pretend you are talking to a borg.

Very good advice to those interacting with US right wingers, who all seem to have the exact same positions on various issues.

Then you are not a true communist because for the traditional communist my description was right on. Your claim would make you a big government libertarian which is an oxymoron.

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/4/2016 6:16:22 PM   
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Then you are not a true communist because for the traditional communist my description was right on.

You are entitled to your idiotic opinions but you are not entitled to make up definitions.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/4/2016 6:28:58 PM   
ThatDizzyChick


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Then you are not a true communist because for the traditional communist my description was right on.


Incorrect, that is not the traditional communist view, it is the Stalinist view, which is in fact not a communist view, but rather a totalitarian fascist view. Please, before you engage me in a discussion of political theory do yourself the favour of learning them.
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Your claim would make you a big government libertarian which is an oxymoron.

Totally wrong.

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/4/2016 8:39:54 PM   
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Then you are not a true communist because for the traditional communist my description was right on.


Incorrect, that is not the traditional communist view, it is the Stalinist view, which is in fact not a communist view, but rather a totalitarian fascist view. Please, before you engage me in a discussion of political theory do yourself the favour of learning them.
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Your claim would make you a big government libertarian which is an oxymoron.

Totally wrong.

Pure communism would be the Thoreau/Wladens Pond example which proved unworkable. Even Marx spoke of a "brief" dictatorship of the prolotariat. No communist government has passed that stage regardless of how much time they had. Pure communism in therory is great in practice it never moves past the Stalinist model. It is always 'but with the right people running it" but they forget, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutley. You talk about the abstract, I talk about the pratical application.

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/4/2016 8:54:07 PM   
BamaD


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Then you are not a true communist because for the traditional communist my description was right on.


Incorrect, that is not the traditional communist view, it is the Stalinist view, which is in fact not a communist view, but rather a totalitarian fascist view. Please, before you engage me in a discussion of political theory do yourself the favour of learning them.
quote:

Your claim would make you a big government libertarian which is an oxymoron.

Totally wrong.

And yet you feel fully qualified to tell us what our constitution means, Typical leftest, you thing you know more about what we believe than we do, but we should keep quiet if we see the gaping holes in what you believe.

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RE: Families of Charleston shooting victims sue FBI - 7/5/2016 2:53:37 AM   
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And yet you feel fully qualified to tell us what our constitution means,


It is her constitution also dumbass

Typical leftest, you thing you know more about what we believe than we do,

That would be your ignorant unsubstantiated opinion and nothing more.


but we should keep quiet if we see the gaping holes in what you believe.


No one has told you to shut up. We have told you to take your foot out out your mouth.

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