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RottenJohnny -> RE: On the lighter side of today's news... (7/13/2016 9:07:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny
Sorry, TJ, but I'm one of the people that gets paid to figure those things out. I'll be employable until I'm dead. The nice thing is that anyone with the interest to learn the same stuff could be too.

Why do you assume that everyone is as smart as you are?

I don't. Why do you assume they aren't?




thompsonx -> RE: On the lighter side of today's news... (7/13/2016 9:16:36 PM)


ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny
ORIGINAL: thompsonx


The nice thing is that anyone with the interest to learn the same stuff could be too.

Why do you assume that everyone is as smart as you are?

I don't. Why do you assume they aren't?


When you say this
The nice thing is that anyone with the interest to learn the same stuff could be too.
That means anyone/everyone is as smart as you. You see many might have an interest but if they lack your ability to learn what you learend how would they be able to achieve what you have achieved?
Do you see my point?






RottenJohnny -> RE: On the lighter side of today's news... (7/13/2016 10:29:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
When you say this
The nice thing is that anyone with the interest to learn the same stuff could be too.
That means anyone/everyone is as smart as you. You see many might have an interest but if they lack your ability to learn what you learend how would they be able to achieve what you have achieved?
Do you see my point?


Actually, it doesn't mean that but it's fascinating how you always manage to jump to conclusions based on things people never say.




Edwird -> RE: On the lighter side of today's news... (7/13/2016 11:00:12 PM)


To both thompsonx and RottenJohnny i will respond;

We've had this sort of discussion several times during the course of the 20th century.

There have been doom and gloom forecasts about humans being superfluous to the matter of making most goods and even services before, but here we are hanging on.

I think that RJ is a bit too cavalier insofar as addressing the the issue as exists at the moment, even if not wrong about the overall premise. I can tell you, the whole US education system is not up to the task as it stands now. Not every 15 yr. old can figure out on her own what is going to be the next big thing in the way of what will be in demand and how that is going to be accomplished 5-7 years hence, when they are done at the community college or the uni, and both HS and college counselors are completely useless, from my experience and those of most people I know.

But the biggest impediment to US workers being able to keep up with change is that it is holy mantra in US business schools that workers are the enemy, in fact considered as pestilence. Every avenue possible to lowering wages is promoted. Which is why the double whammy of importing labor from other countries by way of imports and importing labor itself for lower skilled jobs are considered a good thing only secondarily because of lower costs on their own, but primarily because it keeps domestic labor cost as low as possible.

And if you think I am being too wacky in saying so, you are welcome to it, but that is also the reason wealthy conservatives and the 'business community' in general scream very loudly at any mention of even just free community college, much less at the university.

Lowest wages, at any cost (which in the US, is always externalized).




Edwird -> RE: On the lighter side of today's news... (7/13/2016 11:19:24 PM)


I hate to keep bringing this up, but people can be rather thick-headed when it comes to discussion of national policies that focus more on good of society rather than how many $20 million bonuses can be obtained by individuals in the fiscal year as national priority, but . . .

Germany, with 27% of the population of the US, exports as much or only a bit less than the US. Total exports, not net.

Better education system, free or very cheap; no fuzzy headed ideas about letting corporations control everything because of the fatuous notion that 'the market' is the supreme arbiter of all things. Of course the market is the best arbiter for everyday crap like buying and selling things, but it's absolutely not a proper arbiter in regards to healthcare, education, or the greatly disadvantaged labor market, especially when the business community and thereby compliant government policies have gone to great trouble to put such disadvantage in place to begin with..






Lookin4Lace -> RE: On the lighter side of today's news... (7/15/2016 2:24:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Lookin4Lace
Wow really are we really going to crucify this kid for life just for having fun?
There are plenty more dangerous things out there then just this


Assuming you weren't responding directly to me...

Who gets to define "fun?" If I think blowing things up is "fun" (and it sure looks like fun on Mythbusters), should I be allowed to blow anything up I want?

That being said, I don't think this kid should be crucified. Depending on how things were set up (and with the flamethrower version, it sounds like they were pretty well set up for potential problems), there may not have been any danger to anyone that wasn't involved. The law there says what the kid did was illegal if there was potential for other people or their property to be damaged. It would all boil down to how "potential" is interpreted.

Technically, if I drive a car, there is always potential for me to damage someone else's property or person. No matter how good a driver I may be, there is always potential. If it's interpreted to the strictest level, driving would be illegal under that law.


No DS if i sere pointing my fingers at you , youd know it trust me youd know.it




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