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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/13/2016 6:12:11 PM

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Gosh -- it's almost as if it's not Islam, but rather radical elements attacking other Muslims.

Dude, I know you intentionally choose to mentioned to put me on a post in Arabia, because you know in your heart Muslims are evil over there and will stone me to death for it, thus you chose that country.
So don't try to pretend Muslims are the good guys.

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/13/2016 7:13:16 PM

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Dudette, I know irony goes over your head, but perhaps find someone to 'splain it to you.

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/14/2016 10:08:21 AM

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Gosh -- it's almost as if it's not Islam, but rather radical elements attacking other Muslims.

Anyone who actually thinks that doesn't know jack shit about Islam.

You know what the principle underlying philosophy behind ISIS is? Islam. Not radical Islam. Just, Islam.

The problem I have with leftist idiots is they continually make assertions about a religion they know fucking nothing about.

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/14/2016 10:12:31 AM

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Is the attitudinal difference between "radical" Islam and plain Islam similar to "born again Christian" and generic Christian?

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/14/2016 10:20:29 AM

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Is the attitudinal difference between "radical" Islam and plain Islam similar to "born again Christian" and generic Christian?

Not really, as it seems to be defined purely by external observers, rather than moslems themselves.

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/14/2016 10:43:43 AM

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Is the attitudinal difference between "radical" Islam and plain Islam similar to "born again Christian" and generic Christian?

They differ only in their depth of commitment.

"Moderate" Muslims are basically lazy. They can't be bothered to go out and do all the killing that Mohammed demands of them.... but they pretty much hold the same views as the radicals depending on their level of prosperity. Generally speaking, Muslims doing well in Western democracies tend to be less violent while those in shit-holes such as the Palestinian Territories tend to think murdering people is a great way to spend a Sunday afternoon.

However, Britain - in particular - is fucked. An ICM survey of 1,081 British Muslims reveals some grim figures: http://www.icmunlimited.com/polls/icm-muslims-survey-for-channel-4/

Over 100,000 British Muslims sympathise with suicide bombers. And of the 2.7 million Muslims in Britain, roughly one third (34%) would contact the police if someone close to them became involved with jihadists. 23% of them said Sharia law should replace existing legal frameworks in areas with large Islamic populations. 52% of them said homosexuality should be illegal with roughly the same number saying it's unacceptable for a gay or lesbian teacher to educate their children and a third of them think polygamy should be legalised.

Essentially Britain has overseen the creation of a hostile Islamic nation within its own borders - mainly England. Given the Islamic method is to emigrate in large numbers to an existing country then agitate for an "independent homeland", you can expect rising levels of terrorism, rape and murder as Britain continues to fail miserably in addressing this ongoing threat.

Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention that Sweden is fucked as well. They've let in a whole bunch of Muslim immigrants and the rape rate has gone through the roof. The Swedish police issued a report recently containing a stunning amount of double-think in which they acknowledged that most of the rapes are being committed by Muslims but blamed alcohol, toxic masculinity and "European women's non-traditional gender roles". So much for the socialist-feminist paradise.

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/14/2016 2:26:24 PM

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Gosh -- it's almost as if it's not Islam, but rather radical elements attacking other Muslims.

Anyone who actually thinks that doesn't know jack shit about Islam.

You know what the principle underlying philosophy behind ISIS is? Islam. Not radical Islam. Just, Islam.

The problem I have with leftist idiots is they continually make assertions about a religion they know fucking nothing about.

Ah.. So all those Muslims they keep killing are just . . .

You are beyond moronic.

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/19/2016 5:49:58 AM

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Is the attitudinal difference between "radical" Islam and plain Islam similar to "born again Christian" and generic Christian?

Not really, as it seems to be defined purely by external observers, rather than moslems themselves.

Wrong. Unbelievably, stupidly wrong. Does the Westboro Baptist Church represent all Christianity? No. How about the Church of Latter Day Saints? No. Do you know even know the simple differences between Sunni and Shiite or how it applies to Jihad, let alone the current complex dileneations?

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/19/2016 6:03:29 AM

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Wrong. Unbelievably, stupidly wrong. Does the Westboro Baptist Church represent all Christianity? No. How about the Church of Latter Day Saints? No. Do you know even know the simple differences between Sunni and Shiite or how it applies to Jihad, let alone the current complex dileneations?

The sad bit about Islam is.

Sunni and Shiite are the equivalent of Protestants and Catholic.

Their westboros and Mormons equivalent, are even lesser known cults of Islam.

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/19/2016 6:05:54 AM

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Ah.. So all those Muslims they keep killing are just . . .

Are Not Following Islam properly. Basically they kill Moderate Muslims who wants to reject the bad parts of Islam, and only want to practice the good parts.

It's pretty like, imagine old testament Christians killing New Testament Christians, because the Old Testament Christians does not believe in the New Testament.

And ironically as I say this, Muslims ARE the definition of Old Testament Christians who don't believe in the New Testament.

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/19/2016 7:45:02 AM

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I only knew one person who read the Quran - but her opinions, and eidetic memory, and brain- she had one, I actually valued and her ability to answer my questions on it. And offer me the essence of her opinion after answering multitude of many questions ive had over the last 2 decades. the history behind the writing of it I do know about.

Personally I would ban all origin - for many reasons. But all religion, even those weird American sects, and those mad Scientology pigdawgs share points of origin - echoes/mists from time immemorial - and if anyone would care to disagree then say so coherently.

Turns his attention to the one calling itself greata75 and her evolved nation - which she often speaks highly off The sad bit about Islam is. Sunni and Shiite are the equivalent of Protestants and Catholic. I catholic married protestant, once, long ago.

As for the new testament what a piece of arse spaying mayhem. I am a fan of the olde testament - although that was purloined from older source material, and oral tradition.

As for warped and twisted minds there is nothing I can do for them, their beliefs or souls but what exactly has that to do with Muslims, Christians - scienologist - that lot eve I would hurl into a volcano

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/19/2016 10:08:37 AM

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but what exactly has that to do with Muslims, Christians - scienologist - that lot eve I would hurl into a volcano

I don't know, what they teach and lead by example by their prophets is very very important?
Religions are suppose to guide people in their moral direction and way of life right?

I mean, I always wondered why people need religion at all? But plenty of religious people feel that they need a religion to guide them on what is right and what is wrong and that's why they subscribe to one right? They need someone to tell them how to live their life!

So, if that is the case! The role model is very important. And Muhammad is a terrible role model.

Jesus, since he has not killed anybody or incite a war, might be a better role model than Muhammad.

Buddha as a role model is flawless. Like if you strive to live exactly like Buddha, prepare for a very miserable life but pretty sure you will never kill anybody or harm people.

Muhammad is like the only role model here who has blood on his hands, by personal killings of others.

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/19/2016 11:23:53 AM

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Let me help you with that. IF YOU WANT means IF YOU WANT. It does NOT mean YOU DO. See how the letters are different ? You just did exactly what you wrongly accused.

If you know how to read, the OP is not a Muslim hater. Some people just realize that their religion is on the radical side and their book is taken to mean war with infidels forever. Well if you eat pork then you should be put to death because you are unclean. It is written. Old Testament. That is supposedly western values, at least according to the pork eating republicans. And democrats go to Christian churches as well. Some think the Christ made all Mosaic law null and void. Well as far as I can tell he didn't say that at all, ever.

T^T

There's such a thing as speaking as you find.

I lived and worked in a part of England with a high muslim population.

Actually, I quite liked their company, thought they had a really nice way of carrying themselves and never, ever felt there was any sort of problem.

You can talk about books and coin phrases such as "radical Islam", but there's no substitute for taking people as you find them.

I liked them in general.

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/19/2016 1:44:16 PM

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52% of them said homosexuality should be illegal with roughly the same number saying it's unacceptable for a gay or lesbian teacher to educate their children and a third of them think polygamy should be legalised.

Fifty-two percent being about the same or possibly higher in such surveys taken in the US ~ twenty years ago, likely similar in Britain. Probably actually higher for the lesbian/gay teacher question, either country. Likely similar results in a number of other countries, not very long ago. And we've only just, barely (if not yet completely), got the same sex marriage thing sorted.

And we know that only Moslems want government laws dictated by religious considerations, but not everybody got the memo:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/1-the-10-states-illegally-make-sodomy-illegal-plus-4-only-if-youre-gay/politics/2012/03/09/35913

"Despite the landmark Supreme Court Lawrence v. Texas case (2003) that invalidated anti-sodomy laws and, therefore, essentially made sodomy legal, there are still 14 states in the country where sodomy is on the books as “illegal,” plus an additional four where sodomy is illegal only if you’re gay.

All Sodomy Outlawed: Idaho, Utah, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana. Just for gays: Montana, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas. Since Lawrence, efforts to formally repeal laws in Montana, Kansas, Utah, Louisiana, North Carolina, and, most notably, Texas have all faced resistance before fizzling out in their respective state legislatures. (Christian) Conservatives in those states know they can’t enforce the laws, but by keeping them in the code, they can send a message that homosexuality is officially condemned by the government."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/21/12-states-ban-sodomy-a-decade-after-court-ruling/7981025/

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RE: This is the proper way to handle Islam - 7/20/2016 12:28:53 AM

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Ah.. So all those Muslims they keep killing are just . . .

Are Not Following Islam properly. Basically they kill Moderate Muslims who wants to reject the bad parts of Islam, and only want to practice the good parts.

It's pretty like, imagine old testament Christians killing New Testament Christians, because the Old Testament Christians does not believe in the New Testament.

And ironically as I say this, Muslims ARE the definition of Old Testament Christians who don't believe in the New Testament.

Whabbism didn't rear its head until the 14th century and therefore most moderate Sunni's believe Takfiri is a distorted later day text claimed almost a thousand years after the birth of Muhammad by a cleric called Abd al-Whabbi. I know Sunni translates to orthodox but most modern day Sunni’s don’t follow those arcane theological doctrines. Just as ancient Christians slaughtered Pagans, the Takfiri doctrines dictate the killing of Shi’ism and Sufism and other none believers. Whabbism believes in one ruler, one authority and one mosque and unlike the mass majority of Muslims who believe Ramadan to be about spiritual healing and charity, Whabbi’s believe Ramadan is about battle and disaster for unbelievers.

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