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Quotes and Truisms - 12/3/2004 9:40:18 AM   
lilserenity


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I wrote this to be in my opinion as a slave is or should be.. W/we all have goals and ambitions to be what we chose so I hope I nailed this exactly for the slaves. hugs serenity


The mark of the very best slave is infinite patience.

It is the imperfections in a slave that make them exciting and
challenging.

It is the strive for perfection that makes a slave worthy of service.

Understanding a command is not necessary, only obedience.

If a command is given in error, but followed precisely, then the
error is not that of the slave, the error rests solely on the
shoulders of the Master/Mistress.

A standing order remains in place until another order takes
precedence.

A pleasure slave must be alluring, captivating, submissive, and
utterly available, but more than anything else they must be
interesting.

A slave cannot be trained to do everything; therefore they must be
trained to do anything.

Understanding your slave is the first step in understanding
punishment.

Slavery is not a way of life; it is a way of thinking. You know you
are a slave when your stomach growls and you wonder if
Master/Mistress wishes something to eat.

Control is illusionary; you cannot take that which will not be
given, hence who is truly in control?

No method or style within the BDSM realm is more or less correct
than any other, it is all based on individual desires, needs, and
limits.

Freedom is a soldier's dream and a slave's nightmare. But is a
soldier not a slave; willing to do anything…including kill, simply
at his or her superior's (Master's) command. Also is a slave not
free to choose whom he or she wishes to serve and free to make the
choice of service or freedom. Hence, the question arises, who is
free and who is the true slave. Or perhaps the more appropriate
question would be, "Is there truly anything such as freedom?" or
perhaps "Is not everyone a slave to someone or something?"
(I felt this was my inner self speaking out).

To be thrilled by the smell of leather, to be invigorated by the
sound of a whip's crack, or satisfied by the soft caress, is the
mark of a lover.
To be thrilled by at the possibility to serve, to be invigorated by
a commanding voice, or satisfied by the knowledge that you have done
your best, is the mark of a slave.

A slave's greatest desire is to serve. A submissive's greatest
desire is to subject to the will and power of another.

Let us explore the possibilities hidden deep within you; but keep in
mine that yes I will hurt you, but I will never harm you,

The skill of observation is the corner stone of building a good
slave, a slave must be observant of his or her Master/Mistress at
all times; to learn how to please, to learn how to serve and to
learn every nuance of their owner's character.

True slaves will forever hone their skills and talents. They will
never allow themselves to become stagnant or boring. They will
constantly strive to better themselves and will never truly be
satisfied with their level of competence. They are always willing to
follow their Master's/Mistress's command, quickly, respectfully and
to the best of their ability. They will always be flexible and
willing to explore new possibilities, to learn what they can and to
accept that which they do not understand.

There is no such thing as a perfect Master or Mistress, to believe
this is to lie to oneself, but a good Master or Mistress will know
this fact and never claim to be perfect.

Never attempt to take that which will not be given, to do so will
destroy all respect and trust.

Want vs. Need. There is no such thing as need, only want. One does
not need to breathe unless one wants to live.This is One question I ask when I am interviewing a potential Dom this way I know who is Real or not,in my opinion only..

To understand an individuals greatest fears, and greatest desires is
to understand how to control an individual.

A slave is an individual with a unique need, but an individual
nonetheless. Those that cannot accept this fact should buy a lamp or
perhaps a cat, something that they do not have to treat with respect
or understand its strengths and weaknesses.

A slave is like a building, built stone by stone, experience by
experience. Without a firm foundation it will crumble and fall.
Therefore is it not wise to build up a slave rather than attempt to
tear it down. With each blow to his or her self-esteem the
foundation on which they stand gets weaker; soon they will be unable
to stand, a pile of rubble at your feet. Then you will have created
a worthless slave, or perhaps you have exposed yourself as a
worthless Master/Mistress.

A slave is a proud individual, proud to serve, proud to be owned,
and proud to be a slave. Do not threaten this pride nor attempt to
tear it down, use it, mold it and learn to understand it. To have
pride is to strive to achieve greatness. To have pride is to do your
best and to know when you have. To have pride is to have the
greatest motivator in the world. Do not confuse pride with an ego,
an ego is a shallow man's replacement for pride.
A slave is alot more than many can conceive in their minds and hearts .
This is not a game or roleplay in which you can run if hurt or cry for mom or dad for rescue,this is reality and this lifestyle is very serious.. So many neglect to fully understand what they are steeping into by claiming they are this and that when they really have no clue.. Please read more ,take a hour a day and just read. Noone is going nowhere and we certainly have plenty of time to chose our better halfs or equals. So if you have questions just ask thats why we are here.. I was a slave for 14 years rt and now i am a sub for 7 years ,but my choices were made just once on each..Read,ask and understand and be safe always be well and happy hugs serenity


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RE: Quotes and Truisms - 12/3/2004 9:56:59 AM   
juicycute


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Very nice...thank you for posting this.

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RE: Quotes and Truisms - 12/3/2004 10:04:02 AM   
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quote:

Control is illusionary; you cannot take that which will not be
given, hence who is truly in control?



Freedom is a soldier's dream and a slave's nightmare. But is a
soldier not a slave; willing to do anything…including kill, simply
at his or her superior's (Master's) command. Also is a slave not
free to choose whom he or she wishes to serve and free to make the
choice of service or freedom. Hence, the question arises, who is
free and who is the true slave. Or perhaps the more appropriate
question would be, "Is there truly anything such as freedom?" or
perhaps "Is not everyone a slave to someone or something?"


Angels simple question is... (hoping she may recieve an answer from many thoughts)...

Do these two statements contradict each other?

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From a personal point of view... Angel would say that she agrees with what is written... but does not consider herself a slave(yikes@labels)... so does it ring true for submission in a wider view?

love and blessings in expressed thoughts


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RE: Quotes and Truisms - 12/3/2004 10:38:17 AM   
proudsub


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quote:

A slave is a proud individual, proud to serve, proud to be owned,
and proud to be a slave.


There are a lot of nice statements there, but i think almost all of them apply to subs as well as slaves. I am very proud to be a sub, thus my name , but do not consider myself a slave.

quote:

A slave's greatest desire is to serve. A submissive's greatest
desire is to subject to the will and power of another.


I disagree here. I might even go as far as saying the reverse is true. A sub has a great desire to serve and a slave IMHO has a stronger desire to completely submit to the will of another.

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"You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts"--Alan Greenspan


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RE: Quotes and Truisms - 12/3/2004 11:01:08 AM   
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quote:

quote:

A slave's greatest desire is to serve. A submissive's greatest
desire is to subject to the will and power of another.

I disagree here. I might even go as far as saying the reverse is true. A sub has a great desire to serve and a slave IMHO has a stronger desire to completely submit to the will of another.

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As I do not consider myself a slave, and I cannot answer for all slaves... so i can only speak from where i submit... but I do believe my greatest desire is to serve one and be subject only to His Will and power.... does that help or am i just confusing!...*g*


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RE: Quotes and Truisms - 12/3/2004 1:33:13 PM   
lilserenity


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I mainly wanted to place this here so the newbies that consider themselves as slaves/subs can view that its not a easy task being as one has chosen.. So many here and everywhere assume (hate that word) they just sit in a chatroom and say they are slave or sub but they have no inkling to their status or can even comprehend how difficult it is to be as such,but they sure can find that lap to jump in or leg to place their heads on. Perhaps im too serious and need to relax but I only want to save a life when they are about to meet for the first time or scene.. So many assume the roles they enter but have o idea how dangerous it could be. I would like to see safety as a next topic used here .Then I can relax more. I have seen alot of careless people who think this is a dragon and dungeon game,or hide n spank game..If we cant get a newbie room started or began then i would like to see a safety topic (s) used here more ,if its possible..Even going RT finally after months of waiting and communicating I would like to see that they know the expectancies to enter such a relationship..This will separate the wise and thinking from the careless and clueless ones..So thank you A/all for your comments and I appreciate your questions that are asked .They are always welcome anytime..be well and safe with hugs serenity

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RE: Quotes and Truisms - 12/3/2004 2:10:20 PM   
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I was sure I had read this elsewhere with reprinting permission given by Mistress Norische.

http://www.a-learning-road.com/Articles%20by%20Norische.htm

Are you the same person?

MsC

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And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
Spiral out. Keep going, going...
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RE: Quotes and Truisms - 12/3/2004 2:21:32 PM   
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There will always be people who are not who they say they are... and there will always be people who do not realise what they truely are... It is not up to yourself as an individual to take on those kind of responsibilities because that just ties you up with too much pressure. Slaves/subs can be hurt... Dominants get hurt also. But everyone, regardless of whether they give over the power to another, still are responsible to themself. Commen sense is a great guide... Angel has made mistakes and done things she regrets... but nothing anyone may have said would have disuaded her... there are no mistakes, only lessons to be learned from.(IMO)
It may sound harsh, but it is true.


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RE: Quotes and Truisms - 12/3/2004 3:52:41 PM   
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quote:

but I only want to save a life when they are about to meet for the first time or scene..


There have been several threads on first time meetings. Here are the two i consider the most useful:

first meeting guidelines

dos and don'ts

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"You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts"--Alan Greenspan


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RE: Quotes and Truisms - 12/3/2004 3:57:33 PM   
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Hmm, a little friend plagiarism, which kept the grammatical errors and typos all intact no less when transferring it from one location to another. That is the most sincere form of flatter I have yet found. Perhaps it was merely an oversight on the part of the submitter, (forgetting to mention that they felt it was very important and should be shared in a larger audience or maybe, they actually are the original writer, hence did not feel the need to say anything other than that they wrote what they were posting. Of course the information is valid, but if it is not authored by the poster... they should acknowledge the author as well as get their permission to repost their work.

Silence

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