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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 5:53:51 PM   
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It's Fox News and Greta...not exactly reliable sources.

The source is from the police station facebook itself.

https://www.facebook.com/SkagitCountySheriffsOffice/posts/1166872153333431:0

I never found fox news to be unreliable.
You guys are just bias.


Then you don't watch (listen to) Bill O'Reilly. And most of their other news commentators which is all they really are but O'Reilly in particular.

And unlike many leftest O'Reilly is up front about being a commentator, not a newsman.


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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 6:00:33 PM   
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It's Fox News and Greta...not exactly reliable sources.

The source is from the police station facebook itself.

https://www.facebook.com/SkagitCountySheriffsOffice/posts/1166872153333431:0

I never found fox news to be unreliable.
You guys are just bias.

Then you don't watch (listen to) Bill O'Reilly. And most of their other news commentators which is all they really are but O'Reilly in particular.


consider this, lets take oreilly for example. on any given oreilly factor, there are at least a half dozen, up to lets say 10 different stories/issues being shared---times 5 days a week---times 50ish weeks a year---times 20 yrs. so, oreilly's covered/talked about anywhere from 30,000 to 50,000 stories or updates of stories or variants of stories...

now multiply that times all the other news hosts and commentators they have and you come up with many hundreds of thousands instances of news and commentary.

exactly how many out of bill o'reilly's 30-50k has he gotten wrong, such that he is not "reliable?"

how many of those many hundreds of thousands has fox news gotten wrong, such that they are not "reliable?"
Actually the Daily Show once highlighted 50 lies that Fox News had perpetuated - and they were easy to find.

Fox lies all the time. You can fact-check their bullshit any time you want to, but Fox News viewers are more interested in having their prejudices spoon-fed to them.


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and while im here:
oh no comrades, fox news!
wahhhh, a news source that shows another point of view besides my collectivist/progressive/leftist one.
Fox says what Rupert Murdoch wants it to. It's been the propaganda arm of the Republic Party for decades. Attempting to defend it simply undermines your intelligence and integrity.




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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 6:01:38 PM   
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Right, lets look at FOX news claims:
Obamacare includes Death Panels to allow doctors to stop treatment of patients (which is basically illegal, unethical and against their oath as doctors) FALSE.


this has been addressed multiple times in media coverage and to say "its wrong" is actually wrong.

I posted this sometime last year:

"if you have a panel of people that can decide what care critically ill patients can get, and what care they cannot, and care is rationed---“death panel” seems to be an apt euphemism to describe them. If you don’t like it, come up with another moniker that describes their work without glossing over the fact that they actually will have the authority to “condemn” certain patients to death."

here is something else I posted (and you were actually in this thread for goodness sake!):

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Keep in mind, by the way, that the Liverpool Care Pathway is sort of akin to the IPAB “death panel” in Obamacare.

Defenders of government-run healthcare say that’s nonsense and assert that there won’t be any rationing, denial of care, or requirements for euthanasia. That’s technically true, but the Obamacare death panel will be determining what’s an acceptable treatment and what’s the government-approved payment schedule.

Crushed by Obamacare?

So it’s sort of like holding a rock in your hand, standing over a kitten, letting go of the rock, watching it hit the kitten, but then claiming that you did nothing wrong because gravity caused the rock to fall.

Okay, that’s a morbid example, but you get the point. And my concern isn’t that rationing only exists with a government-run system. Any healthcare system will involve rationing. The real issue is whether individuals are part of a free society so they can make the choice of how to ration.


http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/danieljmitchell/2012/10/16/another_british_healthcare_horror_story_uk_death_panels

as for Obama being a muslim---some people on fox might have believed that, some people on fox did and do not. its called an OPINION.

meanwhile, see my other couple of posts here about fox and elsewhere in my posting history for that matter.

one gets tired of the baseless partisan griping.

oh no comrades, fox news!

wahhhh, a news source that shows another point of view besides my collectivist/progressive/leftist one.


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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 6:16:39 PM   
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So....., I guess IF the restaurant ever gets robbed or attacked, they shouldn't be calling the police for help too!
Why would you think that?
How is this different than the cake drama? There is more than one restaurant in ceedro wooly. and forks is only a few miles down the road and they have restaurants there also?
He can ask them not come into his restaurant but he cannot refuse service just because they are cops.
Are the cops somehow not to do the job they are sworn and paid to do?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

If the cake shop is in danger, they don't need gay people to protect them. But if they don't want police in their premises, then they shouldn't even ask the police to come and handle crime themselves.
After all, they said they don't want police lingering in their premises.
So exactly, police should be under no obligation to visit any more for any reason at all.

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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 6:19:24 PM   
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Right, lets look at FOX news claims:
Obamacare includes Death Panels to allow doctors to stop treatment of patients (which is basically illegal, unethical and against their oath as doctors) FALSE.

Obama is a closet Muslim because he hosted a Muslim dinner in celebration of Ramadan... George Bush did it first, so George was also a closet Muslim?

Of course MSNBC has only a slightly better track record for truth, so it aint so reliable either.


And every liberal news channel claims that Trump is a racist and says that ALL Mexicans are rapists. When all Trump said was illegal immigrants from Mexico contains rapists. OR Mexico sends their rapists over. Which means, not ALL Mexican are rapists. They only send their rapists over.

Liberal media which is the mainstream media is soooooo honest. And till today, they are still spinning the same old lie.

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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 6:21:44 PM   
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Owner apologizes

https://www.google.com/amp/q13fox.com/2016/07/14/sheriff-restaurant-owner-told-his-deputies-law-enforcement-no-longer-welcome-to-eat-there/amp/?client=safari#

Peer pressured. I guess he realised it is extremely stupid to ban the regular presence of police at his establishment, since it might make it a more attractive place to rob, after police boycotts it.

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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 6:44:54 PM   
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To be honest, I didn't realise how bad it was over here until a few years ago. In Australia, shootings are rare and our own version of the racial issue is the appalling number of Aboriginal deaths in police custody.

Basically black men are stereotyped as crack-dealers, muggers and murderers. And certain police forces don't seem to have gotten the memo that African Americans are entitled to equal treatment under the law. There's been a spate of cops murdering black people including one cop who shot a black man in the back, then tried to plant a gun on him - all caught on video.

African Americans are disproportionately stopped and arrested. And some cops are clearly redneck fucking thugs.



Despite this, there are a large contingent of police officers who honor their sworn duty and do attempt to protect and serve.


I remain unconvinced that honest cops do not know of illegal behaviour by some of their fellow officers. If they do not arrest them they become an accessory to all the criminal behaviour of the crooks. This makes them crooks also does it not?
There is one branch of the military that requires all officers to take the following oath.
"I will not lie cheat or steal nor will I tolerate those who do". That peculiar oath gives a great deal of latitude to any prosecutor.
If a criminal uses a gun in the commission of a crime in california there is an "enhancement" to the penality for the crime committed. Shouldn't there be an enhancement" to cops who commit crimes. Since they have used their position of power and authority abussively should they not be punished more harshly?


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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 6:47:25 PM   
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Owner apologizes

https://www.google.com/amp/q13fox.com/2016/07/14/sheriff-restaurant-owner-told-his-deputies-law-enforcement-no-longer-welcome-to-eat-there/amp/?client=safari#

Peer pressured. I guess he realised it is extremely stupid to ban the regular presence of police at his establishment, since it might make it a more attractive place to rob, after police boycotts it.

If you read the comments to the post on their Facebook page, every time a commenter said something about how the restaurant should not expect help from the police if in trouble, the sheriff dept responded with the equivalent of "of course we will respond, that is our job".

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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 6:52:49 PM   
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"if you have a panel of people that can decide what care critically ill patients can get, and what care they cannot, and care is rationed---“death panel” seems to be an apt euphemism to describe them. If you don’t like it, come up with another moniker that describes their work without glossing over the fact that they actually will have the authority to “condemn” certain patients to death."


Sorta like the insurance companies do currently?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

here is something else I posted (and you were actually in this thread for goodness sake!):

Keep in mind, by the way, that the Liverpool Care Pathway is sort of akin to the IPAB “death panel” in Obamacare.

Defenders of government-run healthcare say that’s nonsense and assert that there won’t be any rationing, denial of care, or requirements for euthanasia. That’s technically true, but the Obamacare death panel will be determining what’s an acceptable treatment and what’s the government-approved payment schedule.

Don't the insurance companies do that currently?[
esus you are phoquing stupid./b]

So it’s sort of like holding a rock in your hand, standing over a kitten, letting go of the rock, watching it hit the kitten, but then claiming that you did nothing wrong because gravity caused the rock to fall.


Slaughtering dinner is not "something wrong" ...lots of people eat pussy.


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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 6:54:05 PM   
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YOU FUCKING ----

You tempted me to say "Now I have seen everything" but I will not because every time I do the world outdoes itself.

But I really doubt I have read about anything this stupid. You own a business and alienate the local cops ? Most businesses WANT the cops to come to their place, EVEN ILLEGAL AFTER HOURS JOINTS. Just not on duty. Some feed them or let them drink for free.

Must be something in the water.

Is it possible that the owner of the restaurant knows something that you do not about this situation?


Now just what might that be ? Maybe they are dealing drugs or have gambling in the back. I am not against either of those but they are illegal.

We also do not know if it is just those cops or all cops he meant. Those particular ones might have shot too many people or something.

Remember the cop who stuck his gun in the face of a fast food worker because the order was taking too long ? I remember in Cleveland here one of these yahoos was pumping gas in his private car with his family in it and saw someone burn down the street obviously speeding. He didn't even take the nozzle out of the filler on his car, jumped in, took off and went on a high speed chase with no lights or sirens, no marking on the car. Probably didn't have his ticket book with him. What's more it is illegal in this state for them to write traffic tickets from an unmarked car. That is because there used to be so many speed traps that the state had to make a law in the little tinhorn dictatorships they had to make a law that traffic tickets must not be used for revenue. As a result, if you get a ticket for doing 35 in a 25 you can demand to see the traffic survey that warranted the lower speed limit, that is unless it is a legitimate 25 MPH zone, like a congested business area. There has to be so many driveways to commercial establishments or something. Just a beer store out in the stix doesn't cut it.

Cops are getting paranoid. I guess they got reason. We all used to have guns but were very careful with them. Now people are careless and their kids get ahold of them, many are stolen and in the hands of criminals.

And there is another possibility. this restaurant owner might be deathly afraid of guns. There are people like that. Maybe a bunch of his regular customers are.

People are getting to be really nuts.

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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 7:01:12 PM   
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So....., I guess IF the restaurant ever gets robbed or attacked, they shouldn't be calling the police for help too!
Why would you think that?
How is this different than the cake drama? There is more than one restaurant in ceedro wooly. and forks is only a few miles down the road and they have restaurants there also?
He can ask them not come into his restaurant but he cannot refuse service just because they are cops.
Are the cops somehow not to do the job they are sworn and paid to do?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

If the cake shop is in danger, they don't need gay people to protect them.

Dumbass go get a grown up to read what I said.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.





But if they don't want police in their premises, then they shouldn't even ask the police to come and handle crime themselves.


If one hired you to be a maid they would not allow you to eat at their dinner table but you would be expected to do the job you were paid to do. A policeman is paid to do a job, he is not free to neglect doing his job because he does not like you.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.


After all, they said they don't want police lingering in their premises.

And your employer would not want you soliciting their dinner guest.


So exactly, police should be under no obligation to visit any more for any reason at all.

Except it is the job they are paid to do.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.



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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 7:05:04 PM   
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And every liberal news channel claims that Trump is a racist and says that ALL Mexicans are rapists. When all Trump said was illegal immigrants from Mexico contains rapists. OR Mexico sends their rapists over. Which means, not ALL Mexican are rapists. They only send their rapists over.


Timmy why do you think it is the official policy of the government of mexico to send felons to amerika?
Do you think it is wise to accuse one of our largest trading partners of criminal behaviour?

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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 7:08:53 PM   
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YOU FUCKING ----

You tempted me to say "Now I have seen everything" but I will not because every time I do the world outdoes itself.

But I really doubt I have read about anything this stupid. You own a business and alienate the local cops ? Most businesses WANT the cops to come to their place, EVEN ILLEGAL AFTER HOURS JOINTS. Just not on duty. Some feed them or let them drink for free.

Must be something in the water.

Is it possible that the owner of the restaurant knows something that you do not about this situation?
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Now just what might that be ?


Pay attention dip stick....I don't phoquing know anymore than you do about this. All we know has been posted. We have no clue why the restaurant owner did what he did.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.





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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 7:12:41 PM   
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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 7:37:56 PM   
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YOU FUCKING ----

You tempted me to say "Now I have seen everything" but I will not because every time I do the world outdoes itself.

But I really doubt I have read about anything this stupid. You own a business and alienate the local cops ? Most businesses WANT the cops to come to their place, EVEN ILLEGAL AFTER HOURS JOINTS. Just not on duty. Some feed them or let them drink for free.

Must be something in the water.

Is it possible that the owner of the restaurant knows something that you do not about this situation?


Now just what might that be ? Maybe they are dealing drugs or have gambling in the back. I am not against either of those but they are illegal.

We also do not know if it is just those cops or all cops he meant. Those particular ones might have shot too many people or something.

Remember the cop who stuck his gun in the face of a fast food worker because the order was taking too long ? I remember in Cleveland here one of these yahoos was pumping gas in his private car with his family in it and saw someone burn down the street obviously speeding. He didn't even take the nozzle out of the filler on his car, jumped in, took off and went on a high speed chase with no lights or sirens, no marking on the car. Probably didn't have his ticket book with him. What's more it is illegal in this state for them to write traffic tickets from an unmarked car. That is because there used to be so many speed traps that the state had to make a law in the little tinhorn dictatorships they had to make a law that traffic tickets must not be used for revenue. As a result, if you get a ticket for doing 35 in a 25 you can demand to see the traffic survey that warranted the lower speed limit, that is unless it is a legitimate 25 MPH zone, like a congested business area. There has to be so many driveways to commercial establishments or something. Just a beer store out in the stix doesn't cut it.

Cops are getting paranoid. I guess they got reason. We all used to have guns but were very careful with them. Now people are careless and their kids get ahold of them, many are stolen and in the hands of criminals.

And there is another possibility. this restaurant owner might be deathly afraid of guns. There are people like that. Maybe a bunch of his regular customers are.

People are getting to be really nuts.

T^T

Maybe he just hates cops.

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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/15/2016 9:38:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		It looks like it may have been a misunderstanding: http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/restaurant-owner-tears-up-reverses-decision-to-allow-deputies-to-eat-there

The owner appears mortified and it may have been a language barrier issue.

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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/16/2016 1:23:42 AM   
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If one hired you to be a maid they would not allow you to eat at their dinner table

What nonsense. All our maids have always ate with us on our dining table and if she chooses not to, she gets first pick of food before we start eating. Even to fancy restaurants, she sits and eats and eat exactly what we eat and gets to pick whatever she wants from the menu. And this is the way it should be. Maids are part of the family. They hang out on the sofa in the living room, watching TV or movies with us. They eat with us. They go on holidays with us. They are like an adopted family member, who does everything house wives do, except fuck the husband.
If other families do not practice this, I think it's maid abuse to treat her as a lesser human being. But within my relatives and family. The maids always one of us. Some have maids who never married till today, despite all the kids they are suppose to care for grown up, and chosen not to go home and live with the family forever. And I grew up with 3 maids in my house hold, and they were all treated like this. As there are 3 kids, so one maid per kid was needed. Till today, all my girlfriends married with kids have maids, and they definitely sit with us for meals and are treated as one of us, involve in our gathering and girltalk and stuffs.

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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/16/2016 3:29:55 AM   
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RE: Deputies asked not to dine in Washington State Rest... - 7/16/2016 10:06:58 AM   
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Owner apologizes

https://www.google.com/amp/q13fox.com/2016/07/14/sheriff-restaurant-owner-told-his-deputies-law-enforcement-no-longer-welcome-to-eat-there/amp/?client=safari#

Peer pressured. I guess he realised it is extremely stupid to ban the regular presence of police at his establishment, since it might make it a more attractive place to rob, after police boycotts it.

You can't boycott a place you aren't allowed to enter.


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