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Nnanji -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 2:43:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick No actually, seeing as I never said a thing about the constitution or any law, so it is you who has been shown to be effectively illiterate, arguing some point you imagined, all the while totally ignoring the actual point made, which remains unchallenged and un countered; to whit: There is no rational reason for a civilian to own such a weapon. And yet that has been exhaustively discussed and decided by the courts in this country, including in this decision regarding the FSA, so you being blithely unaware of the ignorance you're spouting pretty much shows you have no knowledge or point. In that regard, blithely ignoring the facts on the table and vomiting useless points in a discussion of points being made pretty much puts you right exactly where I prosited above. Thank you for enforcing your lack of valid knowledge for all to see. I do notice that above someone suggested to you that you read the link provided, that was a long dissertation of constitutional rights and the fact that you continue to claim, in a discussion of constitutional rights that you didn't say anything about the constitution pretty much sums it all up.

Kirata -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 2:43:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick No actually, seeing as I never said a thing about the constitution or any law, so it is you who has been shown to be effectively illiterate, arguing some point you imagined, all the while totally ignoring the actual point made, which remains unchallenged and un countered; to whit: There is no rational reason for a civilian to own such a weapon. You never made a point. All you did was express an opinion. K.

Nnanji -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 2:49:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick No actually, seeing as I never said a thing about the constitution or any law, so it is you who has been shown to be effectively illiterate, arguing some point you imagined, all the while totally ignoring the actual point made, which remains unchallenged and un countered; to whit: There is no rational reason for a civilian to own such a weapon. You never made a point. All you did was express an opinion. K. Yes, and the entire discussion, about which she offered an opinion, was an appellate court determination regarding laws and constitutional rights. So if people assume her "opinion" was about the law and the constitution, in light of the topic, it is her err In not expressing she was stepping outside the conversation rather than others err in not mind reading her intent. Especially since someone had already suggested she read the link and understand the topic.

Real0ne -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 3:30:13 PM)
Even at that, taken at face value she is out here making a 'claim': quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: the existance of abuse should not make it illegal, except to the abuser Generally true, however there is no rational civilian need for such a weapon. I pointed out not only did we refuse to agree to be governed without an explicit agreement that the gubmint would NOT trespass and that they would stay the hell off of the peoples lawn but that fact of the matter is that no gubmint will simply bow down to the will of the people once they accumulate power and where in hostory have we ever seen a change in any corrupt gubmint without arms citizens taking it out by force. That is the level the gubmint itself raises the stakes since corruption (as we can see) has twisted our laws right out from underneath us in their construction and likewise against the law with no remedy outside the gubmint courts, paid by the gubmint and owned by the subsidiary corporations. For her to deny I failed to address her argument is looney as I addressed in spades. Her denial is just that her denial. nothing more Oh and I suppose next up is what a civilized country/world we live in, gag me.....

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 3:31:37 PM)
None of which is relevant to what I said. Go back and read it very carefully, without adding any words or meaning, just stick with the words I used.

Real0ne -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 3:43:34 PM)
and you dont take the time to think its a bit odd that the whole world understands what you said but you.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 4:44:40 PM)
LOL I understand what I said perfectly well, you, however, clearly do not.

Nnanji -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 5:02:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick LOL I understand what I said perfectly well, you, however, clearly do not. Well, pretty much as I said. If I'm in the middle of a conversation about ladybugs and I say, "Blaxit yotep pione subtom yote," I certainly know what I said but I shouldn't expect other people to understand. The fact that you do, makes you pretty much not relevant.

Edwird -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 5:59:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick No actually, seeing as I never said a thing about the constitution or any law, so it is you who has been shown to be effectively illiterate, arguing some point you imagined, all the while totally ignoring the actual point made, which remains unchallenged and un countered; to whit: There is no rational reason for a civilian to own such a weapon. You never made a point. All you did was express an opinion. K. Like the court(s).

Nnanji -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 6:05:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick No actually, seeing as I never said a thing about the constitution or any law, so it is you who has been shown to be effectively illiterate, arguing some point you imagined, all the while totally ignoring the actual point made, which remains unchallenged and un countered; to whit: There is no rational reason for a civilian to own such a weapon. You never made a point. All you did was express an opinion. K. Like the court(s). Except the "court(s)" are an institution empowered in this society and the other was just a non-relavent spouting.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 6:55:46 PM)
quote: The fact that you do, makes you pretty much not relevant. And yet my point (or opinion to please some here semantically) remains unchallenged.

thompsonx -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 7:04:27 PM)
ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: The fact that you do, makes you pretty much not relevant. And yet my point (or opinion to please some here semantically) remains unchallenged. The chairborn rangers are busy beating thier collective chest about their rights. They are too busy to read what you posted.

Nnanji -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 7:07:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: The fact that you do, makes you pretty much not relevant. And yet my point (or opinion to please some here semantically) remains unchallenged. Because you haven't made one within the context of the conversation. You're in your own mind and thinking just how very clever you are. If you were clever, you'd make yourself part of the conversation and express yourself on a level where people understood your point. It's simple really...if you are actually interested in debate rather than agrandizing self.

Nnanji -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 7:26:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: The fact that you do, makes you pretty much not relevant. And yet my point (or opinion to please some here semantically) remains unchallenged. Blaxit yotep pione subtom yote. There, your point has been challenged and shown to be not relevant or knowledgable on the subject.

Kirata -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 7:36:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick No actually, seeing as I never said a thing about the constitution or any law, so it is you who has been shown to be effectively illiterate, arguing some point you imagined, all the while totally ignoring the actual point made, which remains unchallenged and un countered; to whit: There is no rational reason for a civilian to own such a weapon. You never made a point. All you did was express an opinion. Like the court(s). Yeah, no. Not "like the court's." The court's opinion is law. Hers (and yours) are neither law nor fact. K.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 7:37:50 PM)
quote: Because you haven't made one within the context of the conversation. You're in your own mind and thinking just how very clever you are. If you were clever, you'd make yourself part of the conversation Yes I did, it's not my fault that RealOne went off on an irrelevant tangent in his attempt to counter what I said, and that all the rest of you have focused on my response to him. quote: and express yourself on a level where people understood your point. I did, it's really not my fault if you don't understand it.

Edwird -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 7:42:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata You never made a point. All you did was express an opinion. K. Like the court(s). Except the "court(s)" are an institution empowered in this society and the other was just a non-relavent spouting. It was relevant in that it addressed the same item of contention as in the court case. Try to keep up. quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey May I suggest that you rread the cite. It gives valid reasons. Opinion in bold. quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD And, as long as it is used in a legal manner, there is no rational reason to prevent a civilian from having it. Opinion. quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Which other constitutional rights do you find no rational reason to allow people? Fatuous blithering nonsense. So not opinion. (For sake of contrast.) quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji You, it seems, have a lot of trouble in that regard with your expressions. Opinion. quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Yes, and the entire discussion, about which she offered an opinion, was an appellate court determination regarding laws and constitutional rights. Falsehood. The discussion in the thread was and is a collection of opinions about an appellate court decision. Opinions are in every thread in every forum. I suggest that it's you who are unable to process the situation here. Just an opinion.

Kirata -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 7:48:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick it's really not my fault if you don't understand it. We understand it perfectly: Any view at odds with your opinion is irrational. K.

Edwird -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 8:06:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick No actually, seeing as I never said a thing about the constitution or any law, so it is you who has been shown to be effectively illiterate, arguing some point you imagined, all the while totally ignoring the actual point made, which remains unchallenged and un countered; to whit: There is no rational reason for a civilian to own such a weapon. You never made a point. All you did was express an opinion. Like the court(s). Yeah, no. Not "like the court's." The court's opinion is law. Hers (and yours) are neither law nor fact. K. 'Like IN the court(s)' or 'as occurs in the court(s)' was the intention, which would be implicit for a competent reader. It's a case in appellate court. Appellate courts come into the matter only from a challenge by plaintiff of the ruling of another court. So 'court' was in reference to the opinion of the appellate court, and the '(s)' at the end was to acknowledge that at least one other court's opinion was involved. No one said her or my opinion were law. If that's how you took it, that's on you. And opinion is not fact just for being rendered by a court. It is an enforceable decision. Laws and decisions are not facts.

Nnanji -> RE: MD FSA Decision - 2nd Circuit (7/17/2016 8:14:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: Because you haven't made one within the context of the conversation. You're in your own mind and thinking just how very clever you are. If you were clever, you'd make yourself part of the conversation Yes I did, it's not my fault that RealOne went off on an irrelevant tangent in his attempt to counter what I said, and that all the rest of you have focused on my response to him. quote: and express yourself on a level where people understood your point. I did, it's really not my fault if you don't understand it. That's not what I said. You should read what I said. Maybe if you read it you'll understand it. Here, for your benefit: "Blaxit yotep pione subtom yote.

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