Lookin4Lace -> RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2ND AMENDMENT NUT (7/18/2016 11:49:31 PM)
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers But you see, this is the legacy of an American 'tradition' This is the 'American culture' where the 2nd amend. is the enabler. I have a right to own guns. I have a right to defend my home. I have a right to call the police. I have a right to shoot to kill and even before the police arrive. Another attempt to trash all gun owners because one person screwed up. And other than me not one word about underage drinking which set the situation up. Not true. I brought it up in my post that you responded to. I said they were irresponsible for drinking. But that doesn't equal a death sentence. Sorry, I missed that. I apologize. And again I have stated two or three times that none of this gives the home owner a pass. We have two serious problems independant of each other. Underage drinking leads to a lot of deaths. And this guy screwed up big time. Neither is negated in any way by the other. The kid would be alive if he hadn't been drunk. The kid would be alive if the homeowner hadn't screwed up. Oh yeah, there is all kinds if whatthefuckery going on in this tragedy. And whoever gave those kids the alcohol should face charges as well. But as someone who believes in the second amendment, I also believe that anyone with a gun should be held to a higher standard, simply because consequences of gun "abuse", if you will, frequently outweigh consequences of other abuses, such as alcohol abuse. Yes Lovell panicked, which anyone is capable of doing. But panicking while holding a baseball bat as a weapon is less potential for tragedy them panicking while holding a gun. It's literally the difference between life and death. You know the same can be said if the kids were the ones holding the bat or driving a car while intoxicated, i hear alot of peeps here saying they would be alive if they werent drinking, i also hear alot of people saying that its due to the owner panicking , what i dont see anyone stating is that they were there in petson and know for a solid fact that the gun owner did not make clear and consise contact with the teens prior to them being shot that he made them.aware that he dif in fact have a gun,, nor do i see anyone stating the teens heard him anf infact proceeded to enter even though he stated he had a gun, nor do i see any evidence that the teens were fine up standing kids prior to being drunk, nor do i see anyone talking about hoe the parents are going to move past their loss or the fact that the gun owner now has to live with the knowledge that he took 2 lives Nowbas far as im concerned you can sit around and pass judgement all day long, but until you've been in his shoes or theirs for that matter dont presume to pass judgement because im pretty sure some of youe would do the same if the situations were presented to you in a similar manner I can tell you from expierence from my streets we have had street gangs that drive down the main drags with their lights off at night time and those unlucky motorists that flash their headlinghts as common curteousy to let them know, have been physically run off the road or shot at for doing so, one gal lost her life to a 13 year old that was associated with the 503 gang here she had her 7 month old in the back seat the husband ran him down and is now serving 20 years in the state pen for vehicular manslaughter, the kid got 6 months of juvinile and 18 months community service, the doaughter is now an award to the state, We have had kids that get their kicks by breaking into homes and moving the furniture around "while you are asleep in your home" some have been caught, they video tape their actions and diaperse them around the local campuses here, my next door neighbor when i was 28 im 45 now he was burgled while he had his family in from alaska , the assailent was 17 along with his22 year old brother, the 22 year old raped the 9 year old daughter 3 times that night and slit her throat ear to ear the 17 year old held her down, 6 were found dead in the house 1 made it out when the police arrived they found the 22 year old had taken his life the 17 year old is spending his days in a mental institution But what i do see is a bunch of yokals who were not there at the incident i can tell you this much someone comes screaming hollering or.in any other form of trying to get into my house while.there better have thier life insurance paid up and are ready to meet their maker eye to eye cause they aint leaving my house breathing
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