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willowforeverurs -> Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/3/2004 11:16:13 AM)
Greetings.... i've been looking now for several years to find someone to serve under permanent life basis. however, because i am not physically a biological female and under going complete gender change i have had very minimal luck in actually getting any responses from females. in fact, mostly i have received msgs from hng males who dont read profiles. in this posting here i would like to find out a few things from the Mistress's of this site. 1)What kind of slave or sub are you looking for? 2)Why are you looking for this slave or sub? 3)What can i do to obtain some real responses from a Mistress such as yourself? 4)Do i even have any chance at finding a Mistress because of my current gender status? (100% all naturally feminine, 4+yrs physical changes, 2+yrs female hormones, srs/vaginoplasty estimated xmas 2007, lived as female since age 7, do not live/pass for male and impossible to be active as one, i've dated lesbians(i id mainly as femme lesbian) now for several yrs, however open to bi of course because most Mistress's are bi and not gay) 5)i find i have better luck at meeting people from lesbian personal sites than bdsm sites.. however i can't find exactly what im looking for there(definately wont find a Mistress on those sites) and thus still continue on bdsm sites and wonder if there actually is someone for me? all responses greatly appreciated and any suggestions/comments would be wonderful! willow

juicycute -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/3/2004 12:09:24 PM)
Willow, I am a sub, not a Domme, but I will ask Mistress to reply to your question this evening when I see Her. You've lived as a female since age 7? Wow. I would really be interested in hearing about your story if you wouldn't mind messaging me. [:)] ~jc

willowforeverurs -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/3/2004 12:16:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juicycute Willow, I am a sub, not a Domme, but I will ask Mistress to reply to your question this evening when I see Her. You've lived as a female since age 7? Wow. I would really be interested in hearing about your story if you wouldn't mind messaging me. [:)] ~jc thanks for replying and that would be wonderful to hear from your Mistress... i have pm'd you some more info on what you have asked me as i can't post it in the boards. [:)] willow

sub4hire -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/3/2004 1:24:26 PM)
willow, I have nothing to offer you except the mere fact I have been to two weddings now for post op ts's. Some of my best friends are those who identify with both sexes. So, you just have to keep looking just like everyone else in the world. The right person will come your way just when you are'nt expecting it.

willowforeverurs -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/3/2004 4:05:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sub4hire willow, I have nothing to offer you except the mere fact I have been to two weddings now for post op ts's. Some of my best friends are those who identify with both sexes. So, you just have to keep looking just like everyone else in the world. The right person will come your way just when you are'nt expecting it. ah i see... well they probably married men though. a very high rate of trans do go with men rather than with women. correct me if im wrong but it seems you said they identify as both sexes? i only identify as one sex: female, and sexuality: lesbian. i do not function or wish to function as male. its not possible for one because its not me, 2ndly because of the female hormones i take. my testosterone level is non existant(1.9 compared to normal male of 60.0-90.0 and it states on blood test: testosterone free thus my body functions as a female). this is where i am so different than anyone else in my position. otherwise it would be so easy to find a partner as i can find a male any second of the day. though because i am lesbian its been very hard to find someone. i agree there might be someone for me. i just dont think i will find someone who can be my Mistress as well as my soulmate/life partner. i just dont have the confidence anymore. so i posted this message to see what Mistress's want. thanks for your comments. [:)] willow

BeachMystress -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/3/2004 4:37:46 PM)
I'm neither lesbian or bi, so lets put this in perspective for my sexuality.. a female to male transformation. Would I be willing to take someone in the middle of the change or after change as a sub. I don't see why not.. For me, D/s is about serving, power exchange and personality. Even though not bi or lesbian, I've no problems doing a scene with a woman. It isn't about sex to me at that point. It is about power exchange. Remember it is hard for anyone to find a mate in this lifestyle. We have all the problems of vanilla dating PLUS the fetish and power stuff. It may take time. Your best bet is to get involved in the local scene and get to know people. Your personality is what matters in that situation more than what you do or don't have between your legs. Keep your chin up. You might want to talk with Mystress Ana about your local scene. http://www.collarme.com/bdsm/v/33401/details.htm She is a wonderful warm person.

sub4hire -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/3/2004 4:39:37 PM)
quote: ah i see... well they probably married men though. a very high rate of trans do go with men rather than with women. correct me if im wrong but it seems you said they identify as both sexes? i only identify as one sex: female, and sexuality: lesbian. i do not function or wish to function as male. its not possible for one because its not me, 2ndly because of the female hormones i take. my testosterone level is non existant(1.9 compared to normal male of 60.0-90.0 and it states on blood test: testosterone free thus my body functions as a female). I mis-spoke. When I said some of my best friends are those who identify with both sexes. I was referring to other's like myself. I have always been a genetic female. Yet I was also my father's son when he needed one. I've never been one to hang out with the girly type of crowd. I like doing things a lot of men don't like to do. The post op ts's that I know. They don't and never have identified with being a man. Both lived their lives as men. Even had kids because society told them that is what was acceptable. Yet, later on in life they decided to do what was best for themselves. You are 100% correct though, both married men after making the change. I have a friend saving up the 17,000 grand right now for the change. She also has a boyfriend waiting for her. All I do know is it is very hard for any of us to find a partner. We get lucky sometimes and we do. For some of us we live our lives lonely. I think your chances will greatly increase after you have the surgery. Where is the right place to search I have no clue. I got lucky when I found my Dom.

willowforeverurs -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/3/2004 6:47:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BeachMystress I'm neither lesbian or bi, so lets put this in perspective for my sexuality.. a female to male transformation. Would I be willing to take someone in the middle of the change or after change as a sub. I don't see why not.. For me, D/s is about serving, power exchange and personality. Even though not bi or lesbian, I've no problems doing a scene with a woman. It isn't about sex to me at that point. It is about power exchange. Remember it is hard for anyone to find a mate in this lifestyle. We have all the problems of vanilla dating PLUS the fetish and power stuff. It may take time. Your best bet is to get involved in the local scene and get to know people. Your personality is what matters in that situation more than what you do or don't have between your legs. Keep your chin up. You might want to talk with Mystress Ana about your local scene. http://www.collarme.com/bdsm/v/33401/details.htm She is a wonderful warm person. i'm glad to hear this! almost everyone else i have spoken to were in this for sexual reasons and not D/s! this is why i have problems finding a partner. as they all want me for a sex toy..and nothing more. so they're in this way of life which is part of my soul for the wrong reasons! in other words to find someone in this lifestyle because it is a part of them and not because they're just kinky, is so very very rare! ah well if i get involved in the local scene i wont be able to find a partner in california (i want to relocate there because its the most friendly and accepting place i have ever been). here in toronto trans have a very hard time with the public. thank-you for your comments! [:)] willow

willowforeverurs -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/3/2004 6:50:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sub4hire quote: ah i see... well they probably married men though. a very high rate of trans do go with men rather than with women. correct me if im wrong but it seems you said they identify as both sexes? i only identify as one sex: female, and sexuality: lesbian. i do not function or wish to function as male. its not possible for one because its not me, 2ndly because of the female hormones i take. my testosterone level is non existant(1.9 compared to normal male of 60.0-90.0 and it states on blood test: testosterone free thus my body functions as a female). I mis-spoke. When I said some of my best friends are those who identify with both sexes. I was referring to other's like myself. I have always been a genetic female. Yet I was also my father's son when he needed one. I've never been one to hang out with the girly type of crowd. I like doing things a lot of men don't like to do. The post op ts's that I know. They don't and never have identified with being a man. Both lived their lives as men. Even had kids because society told them that is what was acceptable. Yet, later on in life they decided to do what was best for themselves. You are 100% correct though, both married men after making the change. I have a friend saving up the 17,000 grand right now for the change. She also has a boyfriend waiting for her. All I do know is it is very hard for any of us to find a partner. We get lucky sometimes and we do. For some of us we live our lives lonely. I think your chances will greatly increase after you have the surgery. Where is the right place to search I have no clue. I got lucky when I found my Dom. thanks for clearing that up. [:)] willow

MistressDREAD -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/4/2004 9:39:55 AM)
willow one thing you dident mention when you made your post, but I will based off of what I am reading tell you. First off in looking for a BDSM partner you need to state what it is you seek and not just what you are. I am fully aware by your words that you are a trisexual in transisition which is fine that is you making your choice to catch up your body to your brain. But do you feel that brain to be that of a slave or a sub? I see a sub and one whom has put a whole lot of things for self befor anything else. Not many Dominants I know would accept that from a sub much less a slave. I personally deal with only slaves and My slaves to Me hold no gender for I do not treat slaves as persons but posessions and use both in the same manners. Since you seem to really have a issue with others gender orientation and still have your life planned out and set for your self till the year 2007 this would most definantly speak to most any Dominant that you are not only a submissive but one with many * needs * and those things are the items at issue that I would see that would hender your search. Am I hitting the nail on the head? Now putting all this aside, If you feel that you can put your self issues aside for a moment and be a slave come email Me on the other side of Collarme, but if you have found that you are a submissive then this puts into your own words your role and then Dominants can easier tell if They have a desire to have you present to Them for I do not deal with submissives in My lifestyle ways. JMO

willowforeverurs -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/4/2004 10:02:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD willow one thing you dident mention when you made your post, but I will based off of what I am reading tell you. First off in looking for a BDSM partner you need to state what it is you seek and not just what you are. I am fully aware by your words that you are a trisexual in transisition which is fine that is you making your choice to catch up your body to your brain. But do you feel that brain to be that of a slave or a sub? I see a sub and one whom has put a whole lot of things for self befor anything else. Not many Dominants I know would accept that from a sub much less a slave. I personally deal with only slaves and My slaves to Me hold no gender for I do not treat slaves as persons but posessions and use both in the same manners. Since you seem to really have a issue with others gender orientation and still have your life planned out and set for your self till the year 2007 this would most definantly speak to most any Dominant that you are not only a submissive but one with many * needs * and those things are the items at issue that I would see that would hender your search. Am I hitting the nail on the head? Now putting all this aside, If you feel that you can put your self issues aside for a moment and be a slave come email Me on the other side of Collarme, but if you have found that you are a submissive then this puts into your own words your role and then Dominants can easier tell if They have a desire to have you present to Them for I do not deal with submissives in My lifestyle ways. JMO i appreciate your comments however this thread was about me asking Mistress's..not about personals so i should not have to put why i am in this way of life. i mearly wanted input from Mistress's of this site. my profile is quite clear in who i am, what i seek, what i think bdsm is about..etc. thats not what this posting is about. this posting is about answer's from Mistress's to help me find the one i seek. the reason i posted this msg is because i know from previous experience that a very high % of users in this way of life is here for sexual reasons only. not because it is a part of their soul, their spirit, thier heart, etc. hence why i asked these questions to find out if there actually are people who are not part of bdsm for sexual reasons. my self issue is this: im not in this WAY OF LIFE, for sexual reasons as stated earlier like 99% are. im trying to find others who really want a sub and not a sex toy. Why i'm a sub: being submissive is a part of me and is who i am. it is not a "gift" as most sub's call it. it is a way of life that is almost a "need". it is part of my soul and my very being. I am a sub because I wish to serve other's and help make their lives better without the need for reward or profit. it's not an excuse to be kinky or a slut toy. it's who you are. but most people in this way of life only think of it as KINK or a way to control someone in bed in whichever way they want. i have several years experience. i've served previous in 24-7 and non 24-7. i know what is expected of me and what i should expect of others. however this thread is to find out who would accept someone in my position because of my current gender status and i have not found a single person yet who will. they all want born biological females because they are in it for SEX and not because they want a REAL SUBMISSIVE. in fact most profiles state no men and some state no cd/ts/tg when we're talking Mistress's or couples. that right off tells me they dont want a sub, but rather a sex toy. willow

GoddessJules -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/4/2004 10:16:36 AM)
Hello willow, I'll be honest. . .the reason I personally have been reluctant to take on a TG/TS and all people identifying themselves with gender dysmorphia is because in my experience (I'm not making general statements here. . .just relating MY views and MY experiences) they were too concerned about their transformation and their issues of gender identity (passing, surgeries, medical procedures, sex with guys, sex with girls etc) to be much of any kind of service to me. Most of them came to me under the guise of being a slave. . .but it turned out that they were looking for make up tips, clothing tips, to be pimped out, to play dress up . ..and that isn't what I consider "service." I'm not suggesting ALL transgendered people are like this. . .but it has been my experience. A lot of effort for little return. I'm working on changing my outlook based on those experiences. . . Just my 2 cents Jules

LadyShoshin -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/4/2004 10:29:10 AM)
Willow, I can't give you the fuzzy bunny, rainbows and butterflys answer I would love to give. Because I like to give people positive answers that make them feel better. Instead I have to look at the situation realistically. When we look at geographically desireable men & women, we exclude millions of non geographically desireable men and women. When we eliminate men, leaving only geographically desireable females, we lose another large chunk. Now eliminate geographically desireable females (gdf) who are not looking because they are in relationships, there goes another chunk. Now eliminate GDF who are too young for you, or too old, then from that take away those you don't find physically attractive. Now eliminate those who have no interest in BDSM, eliminate the GDF who aren't lesbians and from that number eliminate those lesbians who aren't interested in a woman who still has the genitals of a male. Now eliminate all the lesbian submissives, leaving only the Dominants. I am sure you see where I am going with this. With your specific needs, there is a very small pool of possibilities. I am not saying you won't find anyone, I am saying that you are going to need patience and be happy to just make friends in the lifestyle. Find your happiness in other ways for now, keep your eyes and ears open, enjoy the camaraderie available in the D/s community and focus your energy on the changes you are going through. Good friends who can support your choices and still care for you are more valuable right now than worrying about finding the right partner. After a year and a half 24/7 with the wrong person for me, I can honestly say that alone is preferable, I was alone for almost 4 years and have been alone now 9 months. I am focusing on changes I am going through, I have life goals other than finding a partner. If I happen to meet someone who could become a partner, great, if I don't, I am grateful for the loving friendships I have in the community. So this comes from someone who knows.

MistressDREAD -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/4/2004 10:41:14 AM)
shakes My head~ quote: i appreciate your comments however this thread was about me asking Mistress's I am a MISTRESS or maybe you dident read the name MISTRESS DREAD. quote: [[this thread was about me ..not about personals so i should not have to put why i am in this way of life]]. . this posting is about answer's from Mistress's to help me find the one i seek. your words in one paragraph conter DICK their selfs. try again quote: i mearly wanted input from Mistress's of this site. this posting is about answer's from Mistress's to help me find the one i seek. I gave you answers and you politly thru them out. duhhh. quote: all responses greatly appreciated and any suggestions/comments would be wonderful! bull shit your responce to Mine says it all. quote: hence why i asked these questions to find out if there actually are people who are not part of bdsm for sexual reasons. Anyone whom knows ME on these boards know FULL WELL most of My slaves are not used for sexual purpose what so ever. quote: i have not found a single person yet who will actually you just met a Mistress whom Owns two successfull trisexuals fully done with their transformation and have owned both for over 10 years and you pushed Her words away and your chance to speak to Her. Good day.[:o]

FireGoddess -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/4/2004 11:11:01 AM)
Well I see no reason why a Domme could not take you as their slave. I know I tend to go on the person as a whole and not base my decsion on gender alone. Gender is simply the package we come in. With that being said, I think that ANY submissive need to have their needs clearly defined. What THEY will need to get emotionally from their D/s experience. Perhaps some others will disagree with me here stating that it is the Domme in charge, but I think we all know the truth. I would be willing to talk to you in more depth on this personally if you care to PM me Good luck Mistress FireGoddess

stef -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/4/2004 12:11:52 PM)
What is a "trisexual"? ~stef

perverseangelic -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/4/2004 12:46:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sfgrrl What is a "trisexual"? ~stef (I don't know that this answer will be allowed to stay up as it's got a no-talk subject in it) From what I have heared and read trisexual refers to someone who is interested in men, women and non-human animals. As far as I know, this is how the term is widely used. I don't think that's what Dread was refering to, but I could be wrong.

willowforeverurs -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/4/2004 1:17:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD shakes My head~ quote: i appreciate your comments however this thread was about me asking Mistress's I am a MISTRESS or maybe you dident read the name MISTRESS DREAD. quote: [[this thread was about me ..not about personals so i should not have to put why i am in this way of life]]. . this posting is about answer's from Mistress's to help me find the one i seek. your words in one paragraph conter DICK their selfs. try again quote: i mearly wanted input from Mistress's of this site. this posting is about answer's from Mistress's to help me find the one i seek. I gave you answers and you politly thru them out. duhhh. quote: all responses greatly appreciated and any suggestions/comments would be wonderful! bull shit your responce to Mine says it all. quote: hence why i asked these questions to find out if there actually are people who are not part of bdsm for sexual reasons. Anyone whom knows ME on these boards know FULL WELL most of My slaves are not used for sexual purpose what so ever. quote: i have not found a single person yet who will actually you just met a Mistress whom Owns two successfull trisexuals fully done with their transformation and have owned both for over 10 years and you pushed Her words away and your chance to speak to Her. Good day.[:o] wow no wonder i can't find a Mistress... look at this attitude i get from someone i mearly responded NICELY to i might add. and wtf is a trisexual?? it's TRANSSEXUAL. transsexual=someone born with the mind/spirit/soul/heart of one gender, and the body/vessel of the opposite gender. i've never heard the term trisexual before. there is: crossdresser, transvestite, transgender, transsexual. as far as meeting. talking to someone online is not meeting someone. meeting someone is a person you see face to face. and i am happy for you that you Own two transsexuals. however you didn't have to blow up in my face about my reply. i'm trying to keep the forums nice and clean and a happy place to be. this response of yours is TOTALLY uncalled for and a moderator should do something about it. willow

willowforeverurs -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/4/2004 1:20:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GoddessJules Hello willow, I'll be honest. . .the reason I personally have been reluctant to take on a TG/TS and all people identifying themselves with gender dysmorphia is because in my experience (I'm not making general statements here. . .just relating MY views and MY experiences) they were too concerned about their transformation and their issues of gender identity (passing, surgeries, medical procedures, sex with guys, sex with girls etc) to be much of any kind of service to me. Most of them came to me under the guise of being a slave. . .but it turned out that they were looking for make up tips, clothing tips, to be pimped out, to play dress up . ..and that isn't what I consider "service." I'm not suggesting ALL transgendered people are like this. . .but it has been my experience. A lot of effort for little return. I'm working on changing my outlook based on those experiences. . . Just my 2 cents Jules ah i agree there are some out there who are this way. i've been living as female since i was 7 yrs old... im not concerned about my transformation as its already set in motion and goals will be reached. i dont need or want to play dressup (that is a crossdresser), i dont need clothing tips (27+ years living as female remember as im 34 now), and i dont need to be pimped out as im for one person only and that is the one who i will serve. i am very glad that you did not suggest all tg are like this. and i thank you for your comments. [:)] willow

MistressDREAD -> RE: Misterss's, would you consider someone under going complete gender change to be your slave? (12/5/2004 11:16:44 PM)
what you call Trans I call Tri Being Transexual is simply knowing your gender differances. Being Trisexual is making the changes to either body or mind to accomidate those differances. Thats the Definitions that I know. the word concerning sex with animals is called Beastiality. Those whom practice such are called zoophiliacs or bestialists. My comments were not rude in the least. Just Facts. Dont like My straight forward self, TO BAD!

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