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ORIGINAL: MariaB

Oh fuck off! I’m left wing and I’m all for free speech so long as it isn’t a guise to incite violence or law breaking. Hatred is a natural emotion that shouldn’t have to be harnessed or censored.

Well then Maria, I would respectfully suggest you haven't been paying attention.

There's an ongoing cultural authoritarianism being promoted by the left which is tantamount to censorship of viewpoints it doesn't agree with. Far from encouraging vigorous debate we now have "safe spaces", "micro-aggressions" and.... every feminist's favourite piece of misandrist legerdemain "misogyny".

I'll give you a few examples of the kinds of cultural censorship which the left regularly engages in. Under the increasingly totalitarian leftist regime, you cannot say things such as:

* Trans people are mentally ill. The vast majority have other mental illness in addition to gender dysmorphia. Their risks of suicide are 22 times greater regardless of whether they transition or not. 40% of trans people who opt for surgery regret doing so. For the vast majority, surgery does not increase their level of happiness.

Those are all FACTS, but the cultural authoritarianism of the left says that anyone who values facts over feelings is a monster.

* There is no gender pay gap. Women choose easier jobs, work fewer hours, prefer better conditions over easier pay, take less risks (because of lower testosterone) and are less aggressive in their pay negotiations (due to a lower appetite for risk). Men also constitute 95% of workplace deaths because they take the riskier jobs which - surprise, surprise - pay more.

These are all FACTS but the cultural authoritarianism of the left will not allow facts to get in the way of the narrative.

* The 1 in 5 rape (or sexual assault depending on which lie they're telling at the time) statistic is categorically false. College campuses are safer places with lower risk of rape than the general population, all of the actual statistics tell us including victims of crime surveys conducted by the FBI indicate that roughly 1 in 40 women will be raped in her lifetime.

These are all FACTS, but the cultural authoritarianism and victim-hood pyramid of the left will not allow facts to get in the way of its misandrist "men are oppressors" narrative.

* Men are at far greater risk for assault or murder than women. This is a fact. Yet the left claims that our culture is misogynist because women experience violence. We must hold "take back the night" rallies and stop violence against women despite the fact that violence against women is a far lesser problem than violence against men.

* Women are more likely to engage in intimate partner violence. 50% of intimate partner violence is bidirectional, but when it's unidirectional, the woman is the sole perpetrator 70% of the time. Lesbian relationships have the highest rates of intimate partner violence. Gay men have the lowest. These are facts.

Yet the "men are monsters" narrative of the left insists that domestic violence is about male power and control and presents misandrist concepts such as the Duluth model which attempts to claim that domestic violence is implicitly male.

If you agree with the left's stance on any of these things, you are valuing narrative and feelings over fact and are contributing to the ongoing censorship of ideas which make the left uncomfortable.

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We all know a particular woman on here who regularly express her prejudices. In turn she gets a lot of hateful responses. So long as she can take that on the chin (which she always appears to do) I can’t help but respect her.

You must be the first person who's openly stated they respect Tweakabelle. That's a somewhat bizarre admission.

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This isn’t a Left or Right thingy, its something that is subjective to each and every one of us.

The Right lie. The Left lies and attempts to engage in smear campaigns and censorship of anything which contradicts its dogma. They are more implicitly totalitarian and inimical to the fundamental principles which underlie pretty much all Western democracies.

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ORIGINAL: SnowxxxWhite
All of your "facts" are false.

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Ever actually researched anything before you post it?

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For example your 'fact' about lesbian domestic violence is false.

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They found that domestic violence rates were the same in heterosexual, lesbian and homosexual relationships.

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Gender pay gap is too hard for your brain to comprehend because the are too many factors for you to process.hint: it isn't anything to do with the advertised salary of a job

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You claim men are more at risk of murder and assault. Again this is wrong unless you mean trans men and homosexual men. Yes they are high risk as are cis and trans women. The lowest statistics of assault and murder and straight cis men.

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You are a prime example of why freedom of speech is an issue. You don't think before you speak .

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ORIGINAL: SnowxxxWhite
All of your "facts" are false.

No. Every one one of these facts is true. For you to contend otherwise means you're either ignorant or a liar. I don't really care which one.

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Ever actually researched anything before you post it?

Yes. And I know you don't.

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For example your 'fact' about lesbian domestic violence is false.

No, it is not.

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They found that domestic violence rates were the same in heterosexual, lesbian and homosexual relationships.

No, they did not. You are a liar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_in_lesbian_relationships

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)'s 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey reports on the lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence or stalking by an intimate partner, focusing for the first time on victimization by sexual orientation. It finds a victimization prevalence of 43.8 percent for lesbians, making it the second most affected group after bisexual women (61.1 percent), ahead of bisexual men (37.3 percent), heterosexual women (35 percent), heterosexual men (29 percent) and homosexual men (26 percent)."

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Gender pay gap is too hard for your brain to comprehend because the are too many factors for you to process.hint: it isn't anything to do with the advertised salary of a job

This is how stupid you are. The people arguing a gender pay gap exists REQUIRE their argument to be simple, whereas the more complex argument factors in variables such as number of hours, variations in conditions, increased risk and so on. When assessing like for like, unmarried women under 30 actually make 108% of what men do.

You are clearly a simpleton.

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You claim men are more at risk of murder and assault. Again this is wrong unless you mean trans men and homosexual men. Yes they are high risk as are cis and trans women. The lowest statistics of assault and murder and straight cis men.

Again, that is a lie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender

"According to the data given by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, worldwide, 78.7% of homicide victims are male, and in 193 of the 202 listed countries or regions, males were more likely to be killed than females."

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You are a prime example of why freedom of speech is an issue. You don't think before you speak .

You are a prime example of a moron who doesn't know what the fuck she is talking about. Freedom of speech is wasted upon you because your speech is fucking worthless and devoid of content. Nobody wants to hear about your fucking feelings you dumb bitch.