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FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/22/2016 7:03:52 AM   
GBaxter


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Apparently, in the last 5 or 6 weeks, new people wanting to join the FetLife site, haven't been able to and currently can't, as new registrations have been disabled.
Instead, if you're currently a member and you've made a financial donation, you'll get invites to send to new people to join.

They're setting it up so if someone is a lifetime supporter (which costs $US 240), you'll get 24 invites to send to others and if anyone has made a financial donation, they'll get an invite, depending on how much they've donated, but they haven't yet elaborated on how many.

I don't have any problem with donating to support FL, but in light of what a terribly designed website it is, I don't want to. I won't go into all the reasons, but one example, is how completely ridiculous it is that FL doesn't have a smartphone app. There's a lot of things a person can't do, if they're using FL on only a smartphone.

A new person may be inclined to want to join FL, as they're inquisitive, new and don't know anyone in the scene and they may want to find out if there's any meets and get togethers in their area, to speak to and/or meet people, but without joining and being logged in as a member, a new person can't do that.

When I joined FL 4 years ago, I knew no one in the scene and I wouldn't have been able to have got an invite from someone to join, so while this move will increase FL's profits, all it'll do, is make the BDSM scene and BDSM info, a lot harder for new people to access, instead of being more inclusive to all and welcoming, as it should be in my opinion.




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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/22/2016 7:13:13 AM   
DaddySatyr


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Other than having an account there, I have no association with Fetlife.

I have no idea if what you say is correct, but I will accept it, at face value.

FetLife isn't exactly hurting for members. They'll do fine.

Will people get left in the dust, due to having to pay? I'm sure they will, but a company's goal is to make money.



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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/22/2016 7:13:51 AM   
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If you had bothered to read John's statement, you would know that after they get the paid members' invites going, they will then add free member invites.

New members cause the caretakers most of their work. They've gone from over a week backlog to none at all. And it seems to be working as far as eliminating the worst spammers. I haven't seen anything from the Polish spammer in a while.

Oh, and this is decreasing profits because new members are more likely to start buying from the ads and more likely to become paid members.

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/22/2016 7:28:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GBaxter

A new person may be inclined to want to join FL, as they're inquisitive, new and don't know anyone in the scene and they may want to find out if there's any meets and get togethers in their area, to speak to and/or meet people, but without joining and being logged in as a member, a new person can't do that.

When I joined FL 4 years ago, I knew no one in the scene and I wouldn't have been able to have got an invite from someone to join, so while this move will increase FL's profits, all it'll do, is make the BDSM scene and BDSM info, a lot harder for new people to access, instead of being more inclusive to all and welcoming, as it should be in my opinion.




I agree with you OP, and I think that a lot of people came upon Fet just like you did.

The cynic in me is saying that this doesn't really have a whole hell of a lot to do with the "Polish spammer", but I'll be interested to see when, if and how the invites are given out to those who don't pay to support Fetlife.

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/22/2016 7:29:44 AM   
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Really!How strange because I only joined that website yesterday! Any idea why? Has it become like yahoo and been bought out by the intelligence agencies to spy on us?

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/22/2016 7:51:28 AM   
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Per Baku, they've had a rash of bots and spammers join recently. They slammed the lid on new members joining as a temporary measure.

The next step is to only allow new members that are sponsored by an existing member.

The joining process will be slowly eased up.


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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/22/2016 8:37:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Per Baku, they've had a rash of bots and spammers join recently. They slammed the lid on new members joining as a temporary measure.

The next step is to only allow new members that are sponsored by an existing member.

The joining process will be slowly eased up.


Were did you obtain the insider intelligence from Light Steven? You really do appear to be the lifestyles fountain of all universal wisdom, rather like Norman.

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/22/2016 8:46:04 AM   
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It would be great if CS took similar remedial measures to eliminate fucking trolls and socks like you.

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/22/2016 10:36:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sambowogambo


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Per Baku, they've had a rash of bots and spammers join recently. They slammed the lid on new members joining as a temporary measure.

The next step is to only allow new members that are sponsored by an existing member.

The joining process will be slowly eased up.


Were did you obtain the insider intelligence from Light Steven? You really do appear to be the lifestyles fountain of all universal wisdom, rather like Norman.


It's all on Fet, open for anyone to read.

...well, any members, anyway.

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RE: When Queenie joins theAncestors - 7/22/2016 11:17:27 AM   
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Got the sambo bit (it's cutesy for "nigger", if anybody doesn't know that: any mods in the house?) but how's the rest of your latest handle derived?

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/22/2016 11:53:34 AM   
LadyPact


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This part isn't entirely correct:

quote:

They're setting it up so if someone is a lifetime supporter (which costs $US 240), you'll get 24 invites to send to others and if anyone has made a financial donation, they'll get an invite, depending on how much they've donated, but they haven't yet elaborated on how many.


The first part is right. If a person is a lifetime supporter, you get 24 invites to give to others.

If you have done any of the other forums of supporting Fet, you get one invite for every two months of financial support. (In other words, if you've ever done a six month support donation, you get three invites.)

Here's the part about non-financial folks getting invites:

quote:

Hey hey… how about non-supporters?
Invites WILL NOT BE limited to just supporters. We are doing that first to get the invitation system out sooner than later. Then we will start looking at the process of giving invites to more people.

Will everyone get invites to give out eventually?
Absolutely not. Some members of the community will get invites and continue to get more invites… while others won’t get any invites at all.


I also disagree with this, without a qualifier:

quote:

A new person may be inclined to want to join FL, as they're inquisitive, new and don't know anyone in the scene and they may want to find out if there's any meets and get togethers in their area, to speak to and/or meet people, but without joining and being logged in as a member, a new person can't do that.

No. What it means is they won't be able (at this time) to find meet and greets on FET. All of the old methods still work. Clubs, events, and groups that maintain their own webpages, calendars that are still being used, flyers available at public dungeons, etc. I'm seeing it as the way the old yahoo groups worked. Go to the events, get vetted by the local group, get know people who can invite. Pretty much how the whole thing worked before 2008.

Hopefully, after they get a handle on the spammers, sock puppeteers, stalkers, and banned people continually creating new accounts, they'll be able to make the membership policy more liberal again. I'm actually thinking of renewing my support for the site due to this policy. Not for the additional invites. Rather, because I'm glad to see them doing something about the situation, even if it isn't the most optimal.


Edited to correct the thread title back to the original. Gee, I wonder why Fet wants to keep the sock puppets out.


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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/22/2016 1:22:36 PM   
WickedsDesire


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I have said many things about all sites.
I never read the statement but I will take what I can from all of the above words As I am continually footed of that place for being a "sock" (strange my profile my pictures) and footed of many a forum for protesting such matters that they try and rectify now. It is too late

what does the lifestyle mean.

Why can someone who contributes be afforded 24 invites.
What if that person is a liar, cheat, fake scammer -pro-dom. Not that I am sure why some of them hold positions of power, forum moderators etc.

Liars, cheats and fakes cannot moderate they lack the capacity.

What if a papurer like myself couldn't afford to contribute. Should I be held of lesser value?

This place what has about 20-50 members on the forums - extrapolate that for logons-per country = almost nothing at all....and yet many, well, a handful have said over the epochs this could be a great place....but what few people are here - the liars and cheats and fakes and scammers and men pretending they are women easily outnumber the genuine souls by a vast, vast margin

fetlife has what 5 million at my last logon - its has most of the ashley madison fabswingers userbase and every cheat liar and predatory scum that exists on the interent and that has always irked me greatly.

ladypacts words are not true harking for the days of olde - I am one of the fortunate people I get more mail than most men because of my looks and words (odd they rankle sophist the most) - I stopped counting at 695 mails out of 700 all from women who were married, unverified, men pretending they are women - and you wonder why I go on the rampage occasionally. What has cheating, lying, ruining lives, preying on the weak, innocent and foolish got to do with the lifestyle - and that is what you want to moderate no matter the site.

What has going to a club or munch go to do with anything if you believe all who go are not in the main those I speak ill off is why I stopped going is the short version of the story

How do you moderate 5 million profiles and get rid of 90% of the garbage - 50% is a fine figure...even i see no way of any site to achieve 50% therefore 30% is the best you will get...when the figure slips below that and the genuine souls are dispirited after years of grabage a nw balls effect kicks in - and it becomes like this site or swingers site or ashley whatever it called itself a peice of scam ware funded by liars and cheats

Okc is no better - i was fuking amazed at what match paid for it - pof has slipped below 30% too - mtch also aquired them - the only people who seem to be doing well are a minoirty of the liars and cheats and scammers ( i cited 6 million fraud cases in the UK in the last year) thats reported fraud not cheats liars predator scumbags

as for this site - there are almost no genuine people here at all - and I feel sorry for all genuine souls, single, open, looking for friends etc

I have been on the internet far too long. A little known fact there is a counterpart of me, an English women, and she gave up for good (with these sites a little over two years ago). as for the number of genuine souls know who have been fukd over, and the scammers, and liars and cheats ad predators and illusort catfish who ruin lives - easily th majoirty

How do i recommend a site to some these days - i do not i say fet here pof is your choice - and I prewarn them of what to expect.


anyhoos
wine time methinks - i could browse profile but, like eg fe life, for ever 10 clicks 9 are wasted.

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/22/2016 1:44:58 PM   
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I have my second account there, however I don't go there often because I'm blind in one eye and the background is black, so it's very hard to read anything there for me.

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/23/2016 2:21:10 PM   
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I just read up on that this morning. Fetlife was not my entree into BDSM but I don't imagine which portal I used would've mattered. Back in the beginning I was stunned to find out this stuff even existed and I had some curiosity about it. If there had been any barrier of entry I'm sure my interest was not sufficient to overcome it and I would've gone on to some other bit of curiosity. That would've been too bad because even though it turned out that Carol and I aren't into BDSM, the D/s ideas were very relevant to us and improved our marriage.

My own sense is that John is currently in reaction mode. I'm hoping that when there's time for a more thought out plan he ponders a tiered member strategy instead. You join but have limited privileges until you <insert conditions here>. For instance, read only privilege would've been sufficient for me to know I needed to read more and then jumped through whatever hoops were required. Groups might be configurable by the group owners to be "newbie friendly" or not so the local munch groups could still provide the feeder mechanism.

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/23/2016 2:30:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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I just read up on that this morning. Fetlife was not my entree into BDSM but I don't imagine which portal I used would've mattered. Back in the beginning I was stunned to find out this stuff even existed and I had some curiosity about it. If there had been any barrier of entry I'm sure my interest was not sufficient to overcome it and I would've gone on to some other bit of curiosity. That would've been too bad because even though it turned out that Carol and I aren't into BDSM, the D/s ideas were very relevant to us and improved our marriage.

My own sense is that John is currently in reaction mode. I'm hoping that when there's time for a more thought out plan he ponders a tiered member strategy instead. You join but have limited privileges until you <insert conditions here>. For instance, read only privilege would've been sufficient for me to know I needed to read more and then jumped through whatever hoops were required. Groups might be configurable by the group owners to be "newbie friendly" or not so the local munch groups could still provide the feeder mechanism.

I read on a thread there today that, although this hadn't been published anywhere that I saw on Fet, Baku has already altered the plan and has started a waiting list for sign ups. Also planning email verification with new sign ups and considering only allowing a certain amount of sign ups each day. Can't remember the thread I read it on, but the poster said it was published on a reddit bdsm group.

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/23/2016 2:34:25 PM   
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There is now a new login page which has a section for signing up, though already being a member I haven't bothered to see if it dead ends or not.

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/23/2016 2:51:39 PM   
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it looks like i have 6 invites to use there. if anyone in MA or NH USA is hard up to join Fet Life, PM me. i would need your email address to have FL send you the invite

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/24/2016 9:32:53 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Murphster

it looks like i have 6 invites to use there. if anyone in MA or NH USA is hard up to join Fet Life, PM me. i would need your email address to have FL send you the invite

ANd sh^t like that is *exactly&* why FL had to do this in the first place.


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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/24/2016 9:30:35 PM   
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and...what is that supposed to mean? I am just trying to be helpful.

is collarspace full of assholes or something?

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RE: FetLife has disabled new people from joining - 7/24/2016 9:57:45 PM   
LadyPact


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Murphster

and...what is that supposed to mean? I am just trying to be helpful.

is collarspace full of assholes or something?


I'll leave it to you to decide if I'm an asshole or not.

In your just trying to be helpful, have you thought about **why** Fetlife closed it's doors? Have you given five seconds worth of thought to who might be accepting your gracious invite? Care for me to point out people who, on this freaking site, have been bounced out of their local communities? When they have been taken off of Fet for the stalking, harassment, consent violations... You want to, sight unseen, offer them a get out of jail free card.

"Here.. I've never met you, but let me offer you this free pass. Handy-Dandy new screen name. Just send me an email."

Dude, I might be an asshole, but at least I'm not an ignorant one.


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