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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 9:18:33 AM   
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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 9:59:30 AM   
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No...you are hysterical if you think that whole Taco Bowl thing is my main point.

You go vote for the coddle of criminals' mothers...the deleted of classified emails...the one who didn't need a campaign staff to fend off Bernie because the whole DNC was doing it for her.

Oh wait...you can't.


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Interesting release from the Wikileaks DNC email hack. Note that nothing about Hispanic concerns is noted...only how to get them on board.

http://conservativedailypost.com/wp-
content/uploads/2016/07/00000-2.png

Here's one from Rebecca Christopher, DNC staffer:

http://conservativedailypost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/333-1-1024x472.jpg


http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4932939

Now, the first link didnt work for me until later, After, I looked at the second link about the taco bell engagement...
hence my response. I didnt say that the taco thing was your main point....please stop lying.

Now, do you have an email from Trumps team or the RNC to compare with the first?? Or even an example of non leaked hispanic outreach?
Oh thats right, the big hispanic journalism , Univision wasnt even allowed to the trump speeches or rallies as part of the "journalists"
Hes done plenty of "evangelical " ring kissing... Id love to see THOSE emails...

You just dont like that I have an opinion and Im not afraid to use it to expose your brand of ignorance. Also Sandra Bland wasnt a criminal, neither was Jordan Martin, neither was Blair Holt, neither was Hadiya Pendleton.

It would be nice if you dealt with some reality


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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 11:24:14 AM   
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No...you are hysterical if you think that whole Taco Bowl thing is my main point.

You go vote for the coddle of criminals' mothers...the deleted of classified emails...the one who didn't need a campaign staff to fend off Bernie because the whole DNC was doing it for her.

Oh wait...you can't.


The post Im referencing is
quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Interesting release from the Wikileaks DNC email hack. Note that nothing about Hispanic concerns is noted...only how to get them on board.

http://conservativedailypost.com/wp-
content/uploads/2016/07/00000-2.png

Here's one from Rebecca Christopher, DNC staffer:

http://conservativedailypost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/333-1-1024x472.jpg


http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4932939

Now, the first link didnt work for me until later, After, I looked at the second link about the taco bell engagement...
hence my response. I didnt say that the taco thing was your main point....please stop lying.

Now, do you have an email from Trumps team or the RNC to compare with the first?? Or even an example of non leaked hispanic outreach?
Oh thats right, the big hispanic journalism , Univision wasnt even allowed to the trump speeches or rallies as part of the "journalists"
Hes done plenty of "evangelical " ring kissing... Id love to see THOSE emails...

You just dont like that I have an opinion and Im not afraid to use it to expose your brand of ignorance. Also Sandra Bland wasnt a criminal, neither was Jordan Martin, neither was Blair Holt, neither was Hadiya Pendleton.

It would be nice if you dealt with some reality

I don't care that you have an opinion. You're entitled to it, as is anyone else to theirs. No, you didn't say the Taco Bowl thing was my main point. It was the main part of all I had said that you emphasized.

Univision wasn't allowed at Trump's appearances, rallies, etc? Gee, do you suppose that MIGHT have something to do with the way they've acted towards him.

It would be nice if you dealt with some reality too...for example:

As Mrs Clinton prepares to accept her party’s nomination, her ratings have never been lower. According to a poll for CNN (the Clinton News Network..God, how their own poll must've killed them), only 30% of Americans say she is honest. By comparison, 43% say that of Mr Trump, though his campaign pronouncements have been so packed with falsehoods—concerning the state of the economy, his record, you name it—as to make a mockery of the notion of rectitude in public life.
Her perceived shadiness goes a long way to explaining why Mrs Clinton is currently trailing Mr Trump—the most divisive presidential candidate of recent decades—in the polls. A poll released on July 26th showed Mr Trump three percentage points ahead of Mrs Clinton; another showed him in a dead heat with her on 42%.

That is a remarkable achievement for a Republican candidate who has insulted many parts of American society (women, Hispanics, the disabled…), is disapproved of by most Republican officials, and whose campaign is undermanned, underfunded and based on little in the way of coherent policy. It is also a dreadful indictment of Mrs Clinton’s performance.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2016/07/democratic-convention

Sandra Bland...actually, she was a criminal owing over 5,000 in fines at the time of her death.

I believe you meant Jordan Davis. You're right, he wasn't a criminal. Shot by a panicked, angry white man.

Blair Holt. Not a criminal either. A young black man killed by a black gang member in a city with some of the toughest gun laws on the books. Black on black homicide.

Hadiya Pendleton. Not a criminal but rather another teenager killed in a gang incident in that lovely city of Chicago. Another black on black homicide.

But those people...other than Sandra Bland...weren't who I was referring to. I meant these mothers:

Lesley McSpadden, mother of Michael Brown
Geneva Reed-Veal, mother of Sandra Bland.
Sabrina Fulton, Trayvon Martin's mother.


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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 11:29:03 AM   
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its a shame you couldbnt be more specific then because, your comment was...
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You go vote for the coddle of criminals' mothers...


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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 11:48:25 AM   
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its a shame you couldbnt be more specific then because, your comment was...
quote:

You go vote for the coddle of criminals' mothers...


I was specific. I stated...and meant...the coddler of CRIMINALS' mothers. And she was. As I noted in my last response. She wants to sympathize with those other mothers...I have no reservations about that. But...since they aren't CRIMINALS' mothers, I wasn't referring to them.

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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 11:50:03 AM   
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Rachel Maddow weirded-out by Bill Clinton's speech:

http://freebeacon.com/politics/maddow-beginning-bill-clintons-speech-shocking-rude/

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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 12:05:42 PM   
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Dems break federal law?

When the Dems brought illegal immigrants on stage Monday night, it's possible they broke Federal law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324

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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 12:21:15 PM   
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I personally liked the part where the DNC was making false Craigslist ads to paint Donald Trump as a misogynist. On one hand, what crap but then on par with similar sorts of lies and deceptions from the Hillary contingent of the Democratic party. On the other hand... huh? They lied to paint Trump as a misogynist? Next they'll be lying about the sun coming up in the east?

Then, of course, we have 500-1000 people walking out during the "Let's elect Hillary" part of Bernie's speech. That was awesome. I blew off watching the convention as a whole. I saw no reason to spend my time watching folks lie to me. That sort of sums up my impressions of the whole election. Mostly it's a choice between which set of crooks & liars are going to be given power. I'm bored with that. I'm more interested in the longer term efforts to deal with the corruption.

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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 12:27:52 PM   
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Dems break federal law?

When the Dems brought illegal immigrants on stage Monday night, it's possible they broke Federal law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324

Nope. See ARIZONA ET AL. v. UNITED STATES

*NB parts of the decision. This is HELD ... so pay attention to the bold parts, it is caselaw and precedent in accordance with the rule of law, the laws of our land, and our constitutional framework.

Held:
1. The Federal Government’s broad, undoubted power over immigration and alien status rests, in part, on its constitutional power to“establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,” Art. I, §8, cl. 4, and on its inherent sovereign power to control and conduct foreign relations, see Toll v. Moreno, 458 U. S. 1, 10. Federal governance is extensive and complex. Among other things, federal law specifies categories of aliens who are ineligible to be admitted to the United States, 8 U. S. C. §1182; requires aliens to register with the Federal Government and to carry proof of status, §§1304(e), 1306(a); imposes sanctions on employers who hire unauthorized workers, §1324a; and specifies which aliens may be removed and the procedures for doing so, see §1227. Removal is a civil matter, and one of its principal features is the broad discretion exercised by immigration officials, who must decide whether to pursue removal at all. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), an agency within the Department of Homeland Security, is responsible for identifying, apprehending, and removing illegal aliens. It also operates the Law Enforcement Support Center,which provides immigration status information to federal, state, and local officials around the clock.

...

(b)
Section 5(C)’s criminal penalty stands as an obstacle to the federal regulatory system. The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA), a comprehensive framework for “combating the employment of illegal aliens,” Hoffman Plastic Compounds, Inc. v. NLRB, 535 U. S. 137, 147, makes it illegal for employers to knowingly hire, recruit, refer, or continue to employ unauthorized workers, 8 U.S. C. §§1324a(a)(1)(A), (a)(2), and requires employers to verify prospective employees’ employment authorization status,Cite as: 567 U. S. ____ (2012) 3Syllabus **§§1324a(a)(1)(B), (b). It imposes criminal and civil penalties on employers, §§1324a(e)(4), (f), but only civil penalties on aliens who seek, or engage in, unauthorized employment, e.g., §§1255(c)(2), (c)(8).**


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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 4:03:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Marini
I'm not from Missouri, talk is cheap.
I'm from the show me state.

(Psst. Missouri IS the "Show Me" State.)

Believe me, I know that.
But I have used the expression for years, fulling knowing clearly what it means.
I'm from Virginia {20 minutes from DC}, the show me state.
p.s. - I stole the expression, sue me.


LMAO!!

Get on with your bad self then! lol


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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 6:25:42 PM   
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Taxpayers are on the hook for over $36.5 million for the Republican and Democratic National Conventions -- and that amount is from 2012!

In addition, Congress set aside $50 million for security at each of the party conventions in 2012, for a total of $100 million. The total cost to taxpayers of the two national party conventions in 2012 exceeded $136 million.

$136 million dollars of taxpayer money for two political groups to have a glorified party while fire departments go underfunded, the police go underfunded, public schools are underfunded, the National Instant Criminal background check system (NICS) is underfunded... but hey, better to spend money on politics, right?

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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 8:08:12 PM   
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FR

Taxpayers are on the hook for over $36.5 million for the Republican and Democratic National Conventions -- and that amount is from 2012!

In addition, Congress set aside $50 million for security at each of the party conventions in 2012, for a total of $100 million. The total cost to taxpayers of the two national party conventions in 2012 exceeded $136 million.

$136 million dollars of taxpayer money for two political groups to have a glorified party while fire departments go underfunded, the police go underfunded, public schools are underfunded, the National Instant Criminal background check system (NICS) is underfunded... but hey, better to spend money on politics, right?



We are always getting screwed.


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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 8:12:19 PM   
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FR

Taxpayers are on the hook for over $36.5 million for the Republican and Democratic National Conventions -- and that amount is from 2012!

In addition, Congress set aside $50 million for security at each of the party conventions in 2012, for a total of $100 million. The total cost to taxpayers of the two national party conventions in 2012 exceeded $136 million.

$136 million dollars of taxpayer money for two political groups to have a glorified party while fire departments go underfunded, the police go underfunded, public schools are underfunded, the National Instant Criminal background check system (NICS) is underfunded... but hey, better to spend money on politics, right?



We are always getting screwed.



And yet people say "a third party candidate has no chance" only to vote for AIDS or cancer. Voting for a third party candidate sends a huge "fuck you" to the status quo.

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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 8:29:21 PM   
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As has been mentioned one million times, a 3rd party won't win this year.
Hopefully one day, maybe ....

Where is the publicity?
Where is the convention {even if it had to be held in a field or church}?
I don't have the energy to say what everyone else has said.


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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 11:46:52 PM   
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Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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Shit is this the wall at the DNC?

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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/27/2016 11:52:23 PM   
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Bill Clinton speech about his wife is terrible and passionless.
Like seriously, reading the transcript of the whole script. It doesn't sound like a spouse talking about a wife he deeply loves and admire but he was struggling very hard to come out with great qualities of her.

If I had a husband that wrote that type of speech about me, I'd be worried, it seem cold.

To be fair, I only read the speech. I didn't listen to how it was delivered.

But still..., Bill is a good orator I am sure, I am more interested in how he would describe his wife.

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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/28/2016 12:03:39 AM   
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Man, you really are reaching aren't you?

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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/28/2016 12:08:23 AM   
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Nope I am not. I think how the spouse speaks about their spouse speaks volumes usually.
As that person knows all your ins and outs the best and is closest to you.

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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/28/2016 1:19:59 AM   
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FR

Taxpayers are on the hook for over $36.5 million for the Republican and Democratic National Conventions -- and that amount is from 2012!

In addition, Congress set aside $50 million for security at each of the party conventions in 2012, for a total of $100 million. The total cost to taxpayers of the two national party conventions in 2012 exceeded $136 million.

$136 million dollars of taxpayer money for two political groups to have a glorified party while fire departments go underfunded, the police go underfunded, public schools are underfunded, the National Instant Criminal background check system (NICS) is underfunded... but hey, better to spend money on politics, right?

You want campaign finance reform? You then have some government funding to keep corporate funding out of it. It's the only way. I'm actually hoping Trump beats Hillary while he spends a few million and she spends a billion just to set an example going forward that a billion isn't necessary. I assure you (not really because I'm not sure) the Cities made money on the conventions. Make them fork it over to the Feds to keep things balanced.

I heard a Senator today say his reelection race cost one hundred million. Again, I hope Trump spends less than that to beat Hillary to set an example going forward.

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RE: Democratic National Convention - 7/28/2016 1:25:57 AM   
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Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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Shit is this the wall at the DNC?

It's the one outside. There is another in front of the podium. I'm unsure whether or not Mexico paid for either of them.

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