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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I know you have libertarian views and are a Gorean, so thats all good, have you decided on Stein? over Johnson?
what makes you lean more green if you dont mind me askin....
Im genuinely interested.
I dont seem to be able to take a liking to Stein herself, but maybe Im missing something...beyond the platform.


Ive been used to multi parties all my life and often voted for smaller ones, Im just wondering what the difference is in your eye

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

OK Greta, you asked about something that happened over 2 centuries ago, and said that because of that, today you are glad to be right-leaning.

Let me ask you something-if you wanted a spot as a congressional intern in 2016, who do you think you would have a better shot with-the right or the left?

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/20/12240656/paul-ryan-selfie?yptr=yahoo

Jusy sayin'.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

OK Greta, you asked about something that happened over 2 centuries ago, and said that because of that, today you are glad to be right-leaning.

Let me ask you something-if you wanted a spot as a congressional intern in 2016, who do you think you would have a better shot with-the right or the left?

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/20/12240656/paul-ryan-selfie?yptr=yahoo

Jusy sayin'.

Of course with the left, because they would be less likely to care about her not being a U S citizen.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I read this on a youtube comment.

The utter hypocrisy in Michelle's statement about slaves is that she belongs to the party that owned and mistreated those slaves, it wasn't until the Republican party was established that Republican President Lincoln took office that a bloody battle took place that resulted in ending slavery, and the slave owning Democrat party was dragged kicking and screaming to let their slaves go free. something you will never learn in public schools today, because in every part of our true history the left is hell bent on the truth dying.

If this is true. Wow! I am glad to be right leaning! Screw the left!

The White house was built with slaves, white, Irish, Polish, Chinese and other paid workers.

It was a time when slaves were predominate.

It's like saying "I was alive when Slurpees were the predominate drink at 7-11's."

It's like saying that "when I was a child they built super highways out of concrete...and then later out of asphalt."

THAT was the time....sue me....that was the time....thankfully we've all grown past that but....that was the time.

(Get the flying fuck over it!!!...That was the time...none of us today hire slaves....

Get the FUCK over it).

We don't now....we did....it's over.

Hire slaves?
Borrow maybe.
Own maybe.
Rent maybe.
But we abolished slavery 140 years ago.
Before Brazil.
Before Austrailia.
Long before Sudan, where it is still practiced.

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I read this on a youtube comment.

The utter hypocrisy in Michelle's statement about slaves is that she belongs to the party that owned and mistreated those slaves, it wasn't until the Republican party was established that Republican President Lincoln took office that a bloody battle took place that resulted in ending slavery, and the slave owning Democrat party was dragged kicking and screaming to let their slaves go free. something you will never learn in public schools today, because in every part of our true history the left is hell bent on the truth dying.

If this is true. Wow! I am glad to be right leaning! Screw the left!

The White house was built with slaves, white, Irish, Polish, Chinese and other paid workers.

It was a time when slaves were predominate.

It's like saying "I was alive when Slurpees were the predominate drink at 7-11's."

It's like saying that "when I was a child they built super highways out of concrete...and then later out of asphalt."

THAT was the time....sue me....that was the time....thankfully we've all grown past that but....that was the time.

(Get the flying fuck over it!!!...That was the time...none of us today hire slaves....

Get the FUCK over it).

We don't now....we did....it's over.

Hire slaves?
Borrow maybe.
Own maybe.
Rent maybe.
But we abolished slavery 140 years ago.
Before Brazil.
Before Austrailia.
Long before Sudan, where it is still practiced.

It's over.

My Grandfather didn't....my Dad didn't.....(I didn't).

Get the fuck over it.

(It's over....has been for a while).

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That was the point I was making.
Part of my family is German.
They didn't get here till after the war.
Part of my family is Irish, they never owned slaves, and since they lived in the north they were most likely some of the people who fought to save the Union.
The rest were Souix, who the freed slaves helped fight a genocidal war against. So they would owe me, not the other way around.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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That was the point I was making.
Part of my family is German.
They didn't get here till after the war.
Part of my family is Irish, they never owned slaves, and since they lived in the north they were most likely some of the people who fought to save the Union.
The rest were Souix, who the freed slaves helped fight a genocidal war against. So they would owe me, not the other way around.

Actually, the Irish ran amok against the draft laws of 1863, burning black owned buildings and lynching blacks.

http://www.history.com/news/four-days-of-fire-the-new-york-city-draft-riots

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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That was the point I was making.
Part of my family is German.
They didn't get here till after the war.
Part of my family is Irish, they never owned slaves, and since they lived in the north they were most likely some of the people who fought to save the Union.
The rest were Souix, who the freed slaves helped fight a genocidal war against. So they would owe me, not the other way around.

Actually, the Irish ran amok against the draft laws of 1863, burning black owned buildings and lynching blacks.

http://www.history.com/news/four-days-of-fire-the-new-york-city-draft-riots

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I am well aware of that because, as if you didn't know this, the Irish were treated about as bad as the blacks and were mad because the government cared more about blacks than about them. By that time my ancestors had moved to Illinois so your point doesn't apply to them any way. Not every Irishman was responsible for those riots any more than every black is responsible for burning down Watts. My people got out of New York as soon as possible to escape the "Black Irish need not apply" signs.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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That was the point I was making.
Part of my family is German.
They didn't get here till after the war.
Part of my family is Irish, they never owned slaves, and since they lived in the north they were most likely some of the people who fought to save the Union.
The rest were Souix, who the freed slaves helped fight a genocidal war against. So they would owe me, not the other way around.

Actually, the Irish ran amok against the draft laws of 1863, burning black owned buildings and lynching blacks.

http://www.history.com/news/four-days-of-fire-the-new-york-city-draft-riots

I notice you didn't own up to the African American participation in the destruction of Native American society.

I know of no people of Irish ancestory who take pride in those riots, but Blacks still take pride in the 0th and 10th Calvalry.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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That was the point I was making.
Part of my family is German.
They didn't get here till after the war.
Part of my family is Irish, they never owned slaves, and since they lived in the north they were most likely some of the people who fought to save the Union.
The rest were Souix, who the freed slaves helped fight a genocidal war against. So they would owe me, not the other way around.

Actually, the Irish ran amok against the draft laws of 1863, burning black owned buildings and lynching blacks.

http://www.history.com/news/four-days-of-fire-the-new-york-city-draft-riots

I notice you didn't own up to the African American participation in the destruction of Native American society.

I know of no people of Irish ancestory who take pride in those riots, but Blacks still take pride in the 0th and 10th Calvalry.

Give me a link please.

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ORIGINAL: markyugen

To the OP's question: If you need a false, simplistic narrative like this to placate your inner demons and vindicate your bad choices in life and immoral treatment of others, then you are even more pathetic than the Republican party.

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ORIGINAL: markyugen

To the OP's question: If you need a false, simplistic narrative like this to placate your inner demons and vindicate your bad choices in life and immoral treatment of others, then you are even more pathetic than the Republican party.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: markyugen

To the OP's question: If you need a false, simplistic narrative like this to placate your inner demons and vindicate your bad choices in life and immoral treatment of others, then you are even more pathetic than the Republican party.

I think OP might be referring to me.

But then I saw the word "immoral" lol!

You know republicans think it's immoral to abort babies.

Hearing a leftie talk about morality to me, spare me.

We all make our own morals.

But anyway, according to majority here, it's apparently a fact and not false. Just simply facts of history. Origins of each party.

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
Of course with the left, because they would be less likely to care about her not being a U S citizen.

So I'll rephrase. Greta, if you were a U.S. citizen of Chinese heritage, and you wanted to be a congressional intern in 2016, who do you think you would have a better shot with-the right or the left?

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You don't know that Fr Pillow was brought on by a massacre of a Cheeroke village by the 10th? A remarkably dumb-ass comment since the 10th had not yet been formed in 1864.
You don't know that the 10th spent years in the southwest fighting the Apache?
You don't know that the biggest battle they had agist the aApache was like the Movie Ft Apache except they had some place to retreat to?
For a man who claims to know all about the black experiance inAmersican you have massive holes in your knowledge. Particularly when thee "buffulow soldiers" were long a centerpiece of black history month.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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You don't know that Fr Pillow was brought on by a massacre of a Cheeroke village by the 10th? A remarkably dumb-ass comment since the 10th had not yet been formed in 1864.
You don't know that the 10th spent years in the southwest fighting the Apache?
You don't know that the biggest battle they had agist the aApache was like the Movie Ft Apache except they had some place to retreat to?
For a man who claims to know all about the black experiance inAmersican you have massive holes in your knowledge. Particularly when thee "buffulow soldiers" were long a centerpiece of black history month.

I asked you for a link, not a fuken sermon.

The massacre of 300 black troops by Bedford at Ft Pillow in April 1864 was an outrage. The only massacre of a Cherokee village occurred at Sand Creek during the following December, and there is no mention of black troops. So, I don't know wtf you're talking about. You could at least give me a link that doesn't depend on a freakin movie.

http://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/fort-pillow-massacre

http://www.savagesandscoundrels.org/flashpoints-conflicts/1864-sand-creek-massacre/

Here is the trailer for the John Wane Ft Apache movie from 1948. Not one black man in it. http://www.movies.com/fort-apache/m61966 But hey, your level of scholarship, I guess.

So, I ask you again. WTF are you prattling on about?

The 9th and 10th Calvary Units were formed after the end of the Civil War in 1866. Probably not a lot of jobs for black men at that time. They served with distinction, led by white officers. Called Buffalo Soldiers by the Indians as a sign of respect.


"Buffalo Soldiers" was the name given the black cavalrymen by the plains Indians. Reasoning for the name is uncertain. One view is that the Indians saw a resemblance between the black man's hair and the mane of the buffalo. Another view is that when a buffalo was wounded or cornered, it fought ferociously, displaying unusual stamina and courage. This was the same fighting spirit Indians saw in combat with black cavalrymen. Since Indians held the buffalo in such high regard, it was felt that the name was not given in disrespect. The buffalo soldiers were noted for their courage and discipline. Drunkenness, an especially widespread problem in the army, was rare among them; in a period when nearly a third of white army enlistees deserted, the black soldiers had the U.S. Army's lowest desertion and court-martial rates.

In nearly 30 years of frontier service buffalo soldiers took part in almost 200 major and minor engagements. From 1870 to 1890, 14 buffalo soldiers were awarded medals of honor, the army's highest award for bravery. When not fighting, both regiments built forts and roads, installed telegraph lines, located water holes, escorted wagon trains and cattle drives, rode "shotgun" on stagecoach and mail runs and protected settlers from renegade Indians, outlaws, and Mexican revolutionaries. Elements of the 9th & 10th regiments fought in Cuba during the War with Spain. In 1941, the two regiments formed the 4th Cavalry Brigade and were commanded by General Benjamin O. Davis Sr., at camp Funston, Kansas.

So, what's next? Are you going to blame the Tuskegee Airmen for the bombing of Hiroshima?

What destroyed the indigenous tribes was the deliberate killing off of the buffalo herds upon which the Plains Indians depended for food.

vML

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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You don't know that Fr Pillow was brought on by a massacre of a Cheeroke village by the 10th? A remarkably dumb-ass comment since the 10th had not yet been formed in 1864.
You don't know that the 10th spent years in the southwest fighting the Apache?
You don't know that the biggest battle they had agist the aApache was like the Movie Ft Apache except they had some place to retreat to?
For a man who claims to know all about the black experiance inAmersican you have massive holes in your knowledge. Particularly when thee "buffulow soldiers" were long a centerpiece of black history month.

I asked you for a link, not a fuken sermon.

The massacre of 300 black troops by Bedford at Ft Pillow in April 1864 was an outrage. The only massacre of a Cherokee village occurred at Sand Creek during the following December, and there is no mention of black troops. So, I don't know wtf you're talking about. You could at least give me a link that doesn't depend on a freakin movie.

http://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/fort-pillow-massacre

http://www.savagesandscoundrels.org/flashpoints-conflicts/1864-sand-creek-massacre/

Here is the trailer for the John Wane Ft Apache movie from 1948. Not one black man in it. http://www.movies.com/fort-apache/m61966 But hey, your level of scholarship, I guess.

So, I ask you again. WTF are you prattling on about?

The 9th and 10th Calvary Units were formed after the end of the Civil War in 1866. Probably not a lot of jobs for black men at that time. They served with distinction, led by white officers. Called Buffalo Soldiers by the Indians as a sign of respect.


"Buffalo Soldiers" was the name given the black cavalrymen by the plains Indians. Reasoning for the name is uncertain. One view is that the Indians saw a resemblance between the black man's hair and the mane of the buffalo. Another view is that when a buffalo was wounded or cornered, it fought ferociously, displaying unusual stamina and courage. This was the same fighting spirit Indians saw in combat with black cavalrymen. Since Indians held the buffalo in such high regard, it was felt that the name was not given in disrespect. The buffalo soldiers were noted for their courage and discipline. Drunkenness, an especially widespread problem in the army, was rare among them; in a period when nearly a third of white army enlistees deserted, the black soldiers had the U.S. Army's lowest desertion and court-martial rates.

In nearly 30 years of frontier service buffalo soldiers took part in almost 200 major and minor engagements. From 1870 to 1890, 14 buffalo soldiers were awarded medals of honor, the army's highest award for bravery. When not fighting, both regiments built forts and roads, installed telegraph lines, located water holes, escorted wagon trains and cattle drives, rode "shotgun" on stagecoach and mail runs and protected settlers from renegade Indians, outlaws, and Mexican revolutionaries. Elements of the 9th & 10th regiments fought in Cuba during the War with Spain. In 1941, the two regiments formed the 4th Cavalry Brigade and were commanded by General Benjamin O. Davis Sr., at camp Funston, Kansas.

So, what's next? Are you going to blame the Tuskegee Airmen for the bombing of Hiroshima?

What destroyed the indigenous tribes was the deliberate killing off of the buffalo herds upon which the Plains Indians depended for food.

vML