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MrRodgers -> The Real Plot Against America...Trump the fool !! (7/29/2016 3:08:25 PM)

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In retrospect, it worked out much better than planned. Who’d have thought a pariah nation, run by an authoritarian who makes his political opponents disappear, could so easily hijack a great democracy? It didn't take much.

You start with a stooge, a fugitive holed up in London, releasing stolen emails on the eve of the Democratic National Convention, in the name of “transparency.” And WikiLeaks has always been there for Russia, a nation with no transparency.

To make the plot work, reporters have to take the bait. On cue, they decry the fact that politics is going on inside a major political party. The horror — Democratic hacks saying nasty things about Senator Bernie Sanders.
.....and boy did they ever...hook line and sinker !!

Next...also right on cue.....lefty extremists have to act like lefty extremists — that is, myopic to the greater good, guided by a Trumpian sense that they alone know how to solve the world’s problems, and everyone else is a sellout.

What's in it for Russia ?

What stands between Putin and further aggression in, say, the Baltic States, is a NATO pact that has kept Europe safe for nearly 70 years. And if you thought Trump stiffed the poor suckers who signed up for his “university,” wait till you see how he treats some of our oldest allies.

Plus, Putin despises Hillary Clinton. Like Trump, his skin is rice-paper-thin, albeit a paler shade of orange; and, like Trump, he never forgets a slight. He still hasn't gotten over Clinton’s comment on George W. Bush’s infamous look into Putin’s soul. As a former K.G.B agent, said Clinton, “he doesn’t have a soul.”


What's in it for Trump ?

Help at winning the ultimate throne of his gilded dreams. And maybe some investment money from Russian oligarchs close to Putin, one of many things Trump may be hiding in his tax returns.

But then, a wild card, something unplanned. He knows Trump is a fool, world class in only one thing — ignorance. He doesn't need spies for that. He knows Trump is a man who will say anything, and deny in the same breath that he ever said it. The Talented Mr. Trump.

(last November, before a national television audience, Trump said of Putin, “I got to know him very well.” And Wednesday, Trump said, “I never met Putin.”) But even Putin couldn't fathom that Trump really will say anything.


So there was the Republican Party nominee for president inviting an American adversary to wage cyberwar against the country he wants to lead. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,” he said to Mother Russia.

Trump misses the old days, back when you could “knock the crap out of” a demonstrator. Yeah, the old days. Back when it was disqualifying for an American politician to flirt with treason.

But it unfolds, still, if not according to Russia’s design, then according to Russia’s will. Trump is now a national security risk, actively rooting for a foreign adversary to tamper with an American election. And very soon, he will .....may start receiving classified briefings on that adversary. Ehhhhhcellent!

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RottenJohnny -> RE: The Real Plot Against America...Trump the fool !! (7/29/2016 7:22:32 PM)


Apparently the idea of foreign powers manipulating an American presidential election through covert campaign contributions to "charities" has already been done.




MrRodgers -> RE: The Real Plot Against America...Trump the fool !! (7/30/2016 12:09:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny


Apparently the idea of foreign powers manipulating an American presidential election through covert campaign contributions to "charities" has already been done.

When ?

Trump is hardly a charity either. Now if one wants to assume someone is guilty of something, we can then assume Trump is getting money directly from Russian oligarchs even though this OP has nothing to do with campaign contributions...or bribery.

Plus then we have the freedom to assume the worst about anybody...anytime.




RottenJohnny -> RE: The Real Plot Against America...Trump the fool !! (7/30/2016 7:30:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Plus then we have the freedom to assume the worst about anybody...anytime.

Wasn't that your reason for posting an opinion piece in the first place? Or am I missing the point?




MrRodgers -> RE: The Real Plot Against America...Trump the fool !! (7/30/2016 8:11:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Plus then we have the freedom to assume the worst about anybody...anytime.

Wasn't that your reason for posting an opinion piece in the first place? Or am I missing the point?

The point is and the opinion piece suggests as had Trump's own comments, that in fact the Russians did hack DNC emails with the high probability that it was done with the clear intention of steering voters from or at least further impugn HRC and kind of ridiculously late.

Plus making Trump look even moor foolish than he has already appeared. Also it does plausibly suggest that Trump may have been used and foolishly so and just what is Trump's real relationship with Putin ? Clearly a Russian political robber baron if there ever was one.

Plus less face it Johnny, if this country is to vote for the lesser of two evils and the least incompetent...HRC wins.




WhoreMods -> RE: The Real Plot Against America...Trump the fool !! (7/30/2016 8:20:15 AM)

As far as Flump and Puta go:

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/vladimir-putin-just-made-a-massive-donald-trump-announcement/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/30/donald-trump-paul-manafort-ukraine-russia-putin-ties
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-donald-trump-ties-to-russia-go-back-years-dnc-email-hack/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/watch-trump-brag-of-speaking-to-vladimir-putin
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-2016-214110




WickedsDesire -> RE: The Real Plot Against America...Trump the fool !! (7/30/2016 1:19:18 PM)

Ah the Russian element - been cropping up more and more on the BBC website. does that filter through to the Amercian news sites? - I spoke of it on two other threads.




Real0ne -> RE: The Real Plot Against America...Trump the fool !! (7/30/2016 1:34:10 PM)

the aristocracies live on




RottenJohnny -> RE: The Real Plot Against America...Trump the fool !! (7/30/2016 6:32:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
The point is and the opinion piece suggests as had Trump's own comments, that in fact the Russians did hack DNC emails with the high probability that it was done with the clear intention of steering voters from or at least further impugn HRC and kind of ridiculously late.

Last night I listened to a radio interview with Gregg Housh who is one of the founding members of the hacking group 'Anonymous'. During the interview he made several interesting comments regarding the DNC hacking. In brief...

1) Many of the worlds best hackers live in Russia but that doesn't mean the Russian government is doing the hacking.

2) Most of the software tools used by hackers come from Russia. This means they are written in Russian language using cyrillic keyboards which could leave traces pointing to Russian origins.

3) Russian servers are open for access by anyone and can be passed through anonymously. Most of the hacking goes through Russia but does not originate in Russia.

4) He hinted at the idea that he knew who was responsible for the DNC hack but couldn't specificly say (for obvious reasons) and that it wasn't the Russian government or even a Russian hacker.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2016/07/29

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Plus less face it Johnny, if this country is to vote for the lesser of two evils and the least incompetent...HRC wins.

[sm=LMAO.gif]
Well, you're entitled to your opinion. Personally, I think Hillary is a fucking joke for a potential president.




Real0ne -> RE: The Real Plot Against America...Trump the fool !! (7/30/2016 7:28:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Trump misses the old days, back when you could “knock the crap out of” a demonstrator. Yeah, the old days. Back when it was disqualifying for an American politician to flirt with treason.

But it unfolds, still, if not according to Russia’s design, then according to Russia’s will. Trump is now a national security risk, actively rooting for a foreign adversary to tamper with an American election. And very soon, he will .....may start receiving classified briefings on that adversary. Ehhhhhcellent!

HERE



not a problem after all bush posted nuke designs on the white house website and clinton sold them to china, nothing to worry about we alway have been one big happy family at the top.




MrRodgers -> RE: The Real Plot Against America...Trump the fool !! (7/30/2016 10:26:16 PM)

.....and much of the Russian hacking, software programming and infiltration of social media propaganda, is paid for by the Russian govt. and they script their message. They have whole office bldgs. full of these hackers, programmers and social media propaganda writers.

Wikileaks is often a very useful repository for this info.




Awareness -> RE: The Real Plot Against America...Trump the fool !! (7/31/2016 9:03:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny


Apparently the idea of foreign powers manipulating an American presidential election through covert campaign contributions to "charities" has already been done.
Yeah, I understand the Saudis have been doing it for some time.




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