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DaddySatyr -> RE: Ghazala Khan schools the Sentient Circus Peanut (7/31/2016 2:05:06 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
What a fucking sleazeball.
How dare he.
I saw on the internet yesterday where a veteran wrote an open letter to Trump about service and sacrifice. And pointed out the number of deferrals Trump got so he didn't have to serve (something like four?).
We have veterans and people who have lost loved ones in while service on this board. It's a deeply personal experience, and I wouldn't expect everyone to be able to comment on it, same as I wouldn't expect every mother like Khan to speak up about it. But I am surprised that there isn't at least a little more outrage over his comments.
Whether you know it or not, I'm one of the people that you referenced in the above quote. I feel that qualifies me to comment on your comment.
" ... a deeply personal experience ..." doesn't even begin to tell the tale.
First off, it's actually "public". Believe it or not, society "expects" us to act a certain way, especially those of us that fall into both categories you mentioned and I highlighted. You're expected to deal with the V.A. a certain way. You're expected to maintain some level of composure, during the wake and funeral. You're expected to "handle all the affairs". You're expected not to speak out directly against the government that wasted your loved one's service and life and then, lie about their service to the American people.
Secondly, people handle loss differently, obviously which makes the expectations I mentioned in the previous paragraph a bit tricky. Those expectations are not likely to be fore-most in one's mind in that situation.
I lost my son almost four years ago. Had you asked me, after six months, if "time heals all wounds", I'd have told you to shove your head up your ass. Conversely, that doesn't mean that everything is "all better". I still get a little fucked up, emotionally on his birthday and the anniversary of his death.
So, a bit more to the topic:
Donald fucked up, royally, but not the way some people are saying.
In the ABC interview I saw, he neglected to acknowledge the pain of the Khan family which, politically, is a mitigating factor to the "damage" their statement did. What do I mean? Well, if I had been asked, by the RNC to come and speak about how the policies of Dumbo Ears and the anti-Christ had played a part in the death of my son, I would have gladly done so. I would also expect Mrs. Bill Clinton not only to lie, but to "dismiss" my statement because of the emotion involved.
His mention of Mrs. Khan's possible non-permission to speak is fair game because of what we know about Muslim (and Indian) society and because of her decision to appear, publicly. Like it or not, the Khans' appearance was not only a personal decision, but a political one.
I know, still a bit confusing. I saw a report, later, about a tweet from Trump that went along the lines of how my initial reaction went. I will give what I thought his statement should have been and it paraphrases the tweet to which I refer:
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The heartbreak of this family is immeasurable and my heart goes out to them, but I will not address their 'attack' on me.
The real issue, here, is our battle against the Jihadi scumbags who seem to think it's their destiny to destroy us and the idiotic politicians who not only make irrational decisions to get involved in issues which don't concern us, but who ignore the advice of people that actual know what they're doing (military commanders) and, by doing so, increase the risk to our sons and daughters (and husbands and wives and mothers and fathers) in uniform. Let's start discussing those issues. Shall we?
Michael
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