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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/5/2016 3:55:44 PM   
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Apart from being a cute has been, he isnt employed, until he gets offered the part and signs the contract...deal,whatever...many "rw" actors complain about not getting work ...theres a big difference in being passed over to being fired on the job, for being politically "undesirable".



It's not being passed over, it's refusing intentionally to even consider him anymore for any roles, because his a Trump supporter. It's the same as Christian people refusing to sell gay people wedding cakes! Discrimination.


It's not the same thing. When you're being paid for your time, that time belongs to your employer - your own political, religious views get kept to yourself unless your employer decides otherwise.

Refusing to sell a wedding cake is refusing to be hired. Which in general I don't have a problem with...but....they sell wedding cakes to other couples that they think are "sinning" - ie: different religions, Atheists, etc. So they've already set the precedent of selling to others.


Hi. I'm white and heterosexual, I'm looking for a black homosexual to sell me a cake?

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/5/2016 7:14:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I think that actors are hired in part for their image and/or their star power; the public relations strength that they can bring to the production. He may very well be blacklisted, not because of his endorsement, but because of what the producers now believe the public thinks of him due to his endorsement - which is a slightly different thing.

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/5/2016 8:00:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you're asking if it is illegal discrimination, the answer is no because political affiliation is not a protected class. Age, religion, gender, etc. are protected classes. An employer can legally discriminate against people who are fat, Republican or if they drive a blue car.

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/6/2016 4:25:25 AM   
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Political beliefs are a choice. The law protects you from government retribution for expressing your political beliefs. This has no impact upon the hiring decisions of private enterprise, nor should it. Any such law would be unconstitutional and - in practical terms - completely impossible to police and enforce.

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/6/2016 5:28:10 AM   
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If you're asking if it is illegal discrimination, the answer is no because political affiliation is not a protected class. An employer can legally discriminate against people who are fat, Republican or if they drive a blue car.

Okay, if it's not against the law, then nothing to say. That's the law. It permits discrimination against political affiliation. I didn't know that.

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/6/2016 5:28:51 AM   
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Looking through the archives here, there seems to be a few threads of arsey whining from a Rightard threatening to fire his whole workforce if Obama got in a second time.
I wonder if the people here who are complaining because some has been is insisting he's not been getting work because of the liberal media conspiracy* find that quite as objectionable and reprehensible?

*(Quite hard to credit that one, as it doesn't seem to be stopping John Voight, Angelina Jolie, Chuck Norris or Vincent Gallo working.)

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/6/2016 5:40:20 AM   
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Looking through the archives here, there seems to be a few threads of arsey whining from a Rightard threatening to fire his whole workforce if Obama got in a second time.


If some idiot fires his staff because they support Obama. That guy is simply a fucking asshole! And no right leaning people should be standing behind this or condone this!

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/6/2016 7:19:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here you got Greta: bottom of the page here, some right leaning twonk brags that he fired a couple of his employees because he didn't like the way that they voted. Several other posters disagreed with this behaviour, it seems.
And here's a different right leaning asshat starting a fresh thread to discuss how the first dickhead had a perfect right to do that, even if she's too scared to admit that she approves of his actions.
(The first guy I'm sure I've seen posts by recently.)
There's quite a good search function in here, and a huge archive.

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/6/2016 3:28:55 PM   
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Looking through the archives here, there seems to be a few threads of arsey whining from a Rightard threatening to fire his whole workforce if Obama got in a second time.


If some idiot fires his staff because they support Obama. That guy is simply a fucking asshole! And no right leaning people should be standing behind this or condone this!



Business is business. I used to use the Nword all the time. This was quite some time ago and the stereotypes were pretty much true back then. I owned a business and the first person I ever hired was Black. He said "When I walked in here I never thought I would have a chance at this job" and I told him "The only color that matters in business is green". We are talking early 1980s back when there were still considerable racial tensions in this town. But none of my customers left me because I had a Black guy working for me.

I rarely talk politics at work, especially with the suits. It just doesn't pay to do so. (literally) My employers have never asked nor do they know if, when and how I vote. I make my employers god fucking money and they would never dare to even ask. And I do not bring it up.

Know what else ? Remember the cake issue ? Would not bake a cake for a Gay wedding ? Even more, another one not baking a birthday cake for someone they found out was Gay ? I know one of the best pastry chefs in the country and he is Gay and I mean flaming. Got the fag flag up in the backyard and everything. Used to be Colin Powell's personal chef, so yes he can make other things than cake. He was schooled in it. If Gordan Ramsay walked in his kitchen (which I partly built) he would be impressed. We were joking around when it was done and I said he should get a ceiling mounted camera and start a cooking show. Offered to do it but he said he already had a good job and wasn't really into the idea. OK.

So those places who refused to work for Gays might have Gays working for them. Pleasingly ironic. Won't take their money but will give it to them. They'll get what they deserve for their stupidity.

They don't realize they not only lose the Gay business, and them people got money, but they will lose alot of the business from people who are not bigoted against Gays.

In the same way, even though I have no love for Clinton, if an employer told me if she gets elected I am fired I would quit on the spot. You have no right to tell me how to vote and trying to proves you are one of the motherfucker that if you show up on my property I will kill on sight.

The guy who did this shit must be a real asshole for one. Any jobs he provides must be low skill, so getting fired probably isn't the end of the world. And then let him train totally new staff, or go out of business.

Fucking assholes. The wrong people are running most of the world and also business. I am not saying I could run BP or anything, that needs to be worked up to, there is alot to learn and get used to. I couldn't run Raytheon either, that would take alot of learning. But still, the wrong people are running things. And it will bite them in the ass because they are destroying their own market.

Let it happen.

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/6/2016 5:00:39 PM   
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If you're asking if it is illegal discrimination, the answer is no because political affiliation is not a protected class. Age, religion, gender, etc. are protected classes. An employer can legally discriminate against people who are fat, Republican or if they drive a blue car.


It is in the civil service.

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/6/2016 5:03:01 PM   
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If you're asking if it is illegal discrimination, the answer is no because political affiliation is not a protected class. An employer can legally discriminate against people who are fat, Republican or if they drive a blue car.

Okay, if it's not against the law, then nothing to say. That's the law. It permits discrimination against political affiliation. I didn't know that.


If you work for the government (which is often going to include hospitals and education - due to receiving federal funding) these are the rules -

The Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 (CSRA) contains a number of prohibitions, known as prohibited personnel practices, which are designed to promote overall fairness in federal personnel actions. 5 U.S.C. 2302. The CSRA prohibits any employee who has authority to take certain personnel actions from discriminating for or against employees or applicants for employment on the bases of race, color, national origin, religion, sex, age or disability. It also provides that certain personnel actions can not be based on attributes or conduct that do not adversely affect employee performance, such as marital status and political affiliation. The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) has interpreted the prohibition of discrimination based on conduct to include discrimination based on sexual orientation. The CSRA also prohibits reprisal against federal employees or applicants for whistle-blowing, or for exercising an appeal, complaint, or grievance right. The CSRA is enforced by both the Office of Special Counsel (OSC) and the Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB).


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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/6/2016 6:41:35 PM   
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So that is some real Nazism/discrimination going on over there, refusing to employ people anymore for supporting Trump. Is this what the left advocates?


Doesn't it hurt your mouth to talk out of both sides at the same time? You, who have told us loud and clear how much you like nazi dictators are now outraged by what you approve of?
Jesus you are phoquig stupid.

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/6/2016 6:43:35 PM   
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you have to understand that their is a difference between the liberals and ISIS only by name. The ISIS mindset is prevalent in the US.
"If you don't go with the flow, we'll hurt you". It is clearly seen in the homosexual agenda, illegal immigration etc.
Entertainers have said for years that you have to live a double life if your at all conservative in Hollywood.


Do you always talk out of your ass?

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/6/2016 6:46:28 PM   
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Section 11 (b) of the 1965 Voting Rights Act as amended 43 U.S.C. Section 1971(b) provides:

No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right
of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate.

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/7/2016 3:52:14 AM   
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Looking through the archives here, there seems to be a few threads of arsey whining from a Rightard threatening to fire his whole workforce if Obama got in a second time.
I wonder if the people here who are complaining because some has been is insisting he's not been getting work because of the liberal media conspiracy* find that quite as objectionable and reprehensible?

*(Quite hard to credit that one, as it doesn't seem to be stopping John Voight, Angelina Jolie, Chuck Norris or Vincent Gallo working.)



i'm sorry I don't speak troll...could you define "rightard" for me.

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RE: Isn't it discrimination to refuse to employ someone... - 8/7/2016 5:23:01 PM   
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This guy is pissed that he's being overlooked. Well, tough shit. You have the freedom to speak your mind. You have the freedom to align yourself with anyone you want. You do NOT have the freedom to not face any consequence of your actions, however.

Consequences for being a Trump voter.
I love this. It's not okay to discriminate against Muslims but okay to discriminate against a Trump voter. Both pick their leaders by choice. Muslims follows Muhammad and IF Muhammad exists in this time period, ya be sure they are voting him for President. Trump voters follow Trump.
It's a pick and choose who is okay to discriminate against, base on your personal leanings.


Equating following Islam to following Trump is an apples to oranges comparison. Trump is not a religious icon, so following him does not have religious protections.




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