MrRodgers -> RE: I know some Americans Belittle China capabilities (8/5/2016 5:04:56 PM)
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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods FR: What's this crap about China "becoming" a superpower people keep coming out with? They have the world's largest land army (bolstered by a third of the global population in the event of a draft becoming necessary), an industrial capability that's plenty good enough to scale up its already impressive arms production, and nuclear capability. I'd be interested to know what else a superpower is supposed to need on top of those three. I agree. Alert the media. You don't need a thousand nukes, especially when their yield is much higher than in the days of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And you can't take over anything with bombs, you need boots on the ground for that. Since most war is fought for natural resources or strategic location, there is not much sense to use a nuke unless you specifically want to punish a country. In fact, I think Israel has nukes and Iran wants nukes because if it ever looks like they are going to get taken over they will blow themselves up. Israel for sure, Iran probably. They'll go on PressTV and show video of them pushing the button and say "Now try to pump oil out of a glass parking lot in lead suits motherfuckers". You think the axis powers have never tried to bribe the Iranian government ? Loan them a bunch off money for shit they do not need and turn their economy into something like Greece ? Iceland and Hungary got rid of those motherfuckers ad even put a few people, including politicians, in prison. (well Iceland did the latter) Venezuela was on its way when they took their gold back from the US. Safe keeping my ass, ask the Germans about that. France got caught with their pants down as well. While the Us still taxed gasoline when oil was a hundred bucks a barrel, Iran sold it at a loss to the People. Wait a minute here, I thought half of them didn't even have running water. And which is it, when they shit do they wipe with their left hand or do they put the toilet paper in the trash can instead of the toilet ? You tell me, all you people who believe western propaganda. Which is it ? And they automatically kill all non-Muslims ? What about the 30,000 Jews who live in peace in Iran ? I know they had people jumping out of windows, but those were Foxconn employees, the ones who make motherboards for both MACs and PCs. I didn't notice any other reports of this. But then they don't really publicize the fact that there is over a suicide per day int the US military and a third of them are on psychotropic drugs. Russian soldiers are probably on vodka, I think they'll win. Smaller armies have won. You call Nam a victory ? You call Korea a victory ? You call Afghanistan a victory ? (it is temporarily but is a real shithole) Putting boots on the ground on foreign soil costs many many lives and China has them to spare. It is possible they want to expand. Why do they want male children ? Don't they want to get laid ? But then there really is a possibility that their Women can handle a weapon. That adds to the number of possible soldiers. Many Women work in China and I doubt it is all clerical or desk work. I mean in factories. Yup, overconfidence is a killer and USians have it acutely. Russia and China could actually take this country if they wanted the expense. By the time the troops n shit get back from those 130+ places the pentagon and whitehouse would be ashes. Federal buildings all over the country would look like ten McVeighs had at them. They would be working on state and local governments by that time. And as you may know, the US ilitary does NOT defend this country, they defend a bunch of other goveernment against their own People, but tell me where there is any border protection, even without bombs. Ask illegal immigrants who didn't even need a weapon to get in. Russia and China together could be ready in months to actually take over the US. But they do not want to. There is nothing in it for them. And I know about fights, let them come to you, but be ready. Fight on your own turf, to fight on their turf is much worse. So they won't do it. But you might see them attack all our military bases all over the world. That they might consider. then the US comes to them and fights on their turf. But they do not want the US, there is nothing to take. There are places with ten times the oil we got. The only thing we got really is helium and its uses are limited. I might be mistaken, it might be useful for nuclear technology but not much else. That does not help the boots an the ground problem. I firmly believe that together, Russia and China could put more boots on US soil than the US, at least in a timely fashion when it matters. Time really does matter. We are spread so thin that some asshole can go and shoot up a military base. There should have been too many people there, who would tackle the fucker and make him really sorry. But no, they are up in Germany, Cuba, who the fuck knows. In fact just list the places in the world they aren't. This USian hubris has to stop. Get the fuck out of the South China Sea, get the fuck out of alot of places. Tell all the terrorist groups "We are going to stop, you stop too and we won't have all these problems". Some of them are reasonable people, in fact the Muslims refused to give that one terrorist a proper Muslim burial because they don't want to be associated with that shit. And there is another thing about the Muslims, they are all over the place. the Chinese are all in one place pretty much, about ten nukes and they are done. The Jews are pretty much concentrated in Israel, so they are vulnerable. Better start thinking about at least being reasonable with them. I would tell them "We had our holy wars but grew beyond that and learned to get along. Problem here is big business bought the government and got the to attack you. Well I have rescinded the sale". But if you keep on attacking us we will destroy you, ALL OF YOU. So keep your assholes in check for a while. We will not kill two billion people over the acts of a lone wolf, but if you support it you are seriously imperiled because at the moment we still have the ability to kick your ass right into the sand. And apologize. Sorry that we let these motherfuckers take over. But that has to be accompanied by actions. Some reparations are in order, but more material because we have no money. Send the army in to build hospitals and schools we bombed. And let the fucking Taliban have Afghanistan, it seems that they want that. The main problem is the poppies we need for heroin and a shitload of legal drugs as well. AQctually I like opium but it makes you too mellow for most circumstances. Like Indica weed instead of Sativa, you get groggy on it. But some people do need it for pain. Buddy of mine was in the hospital and they gave him a button would shoot morphine into him when he pushed the button. I was there and quipped "You got a morphinomatic here !". Every time he pushed that button I bet the insurance paid like $100 or more. Who gets that money ? Not no Mexican cartel. Who ? Bottom line, they will just have to find another place to grow the shit. Afghanistan just happens to have the perfect soil conditions and climate for it. I am sure there is somewhere else. Somewhere. Like the US, China does not really have much to sell. That is why most of their economy is labor based. You want to try to make slaves out of them ? Well their government pretty much did that but had to give them apartments, cars with air conditioning and all kinds of shit. If you got good skills in China you make more yuan. The people who jumped out the windows were maybe floor sweepers or something who did not even make enough money to maintain their own apartment or house. It is a way of doing business that is successful, but now totally like having a gold mine. Plus, they DO have their OSHA and all that, and they are getting into environmental problems - because of necessity. It is getting so bad that it is making people sick. So they know they have gone too far, but then, here in Ohio, US we had a river catch fire. That is when we knew we went too far. Like Moses (supposedly) said something to the effect that "Starving (or sick) slaves make less bricks, dead slaves make none". Something like that. T^T Ad Hominem‎ T8r. You put words in our mouths and think you are thinking for us. Rather you believe the nonsense that America is failing in so many areas and is somehow second rate in what we do. You suggest Americans make erroneous assumptions about foreign successes or poverty. You are wrong. US manufacturing is over $2 trillion out of which exports are $1.4 trillion and is 3rd over all in exports behind China (we know why) and the EU and we know why. America exports of manufactured goods has grown by 52% under Obama form 09-14. Apparently America in fact has a 'lottsa stuff' to sell and to foreigners. Those 'boots on the ground' in Russia and China are on Russian and Chinese ground with no way to go anywhere. It's real easy to threaten your neighbors and you don't need a navy. And honestly there is no such overconfidence in our govt. and military planners you speak of and it is incredulous to even suggest that Russia and China could take over the US in a matter of months. Explain to me logistically how the Russians and Chinese could put all of those boots on the ground...in the US ? How ? Are they going to swim here ? What you suggest I am telling you, both the Russian and Chinese leaders would tell you...you are crazy. Talk about an acid trip. Sorry man but your posts are getting to be schizophrenic ramblings.
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