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swingingsixties -> Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 5:04:20 AM)

Yes for sure most of you were not even born then and come to think of it neither were you're parents or mine come to that. The City of Liverpool, a seaport and unique in Lancashire and distinct from Lancastrians and other Northern English Folk produced 80% of all the most popular music groups and solo singers of their time. The young folks then are dead or old folks now. The newly introduced pill for young women and sexual liberation and youthful rebellion, strange fashions, flower power, Vietnam and the rest. Far better than the roaring twenties because the workers and the young were leading the way not the middle class wealthy, lazy day, dancing folk. You could even understand the lyrics which you seldom can today if even such exist. No real talent is needed to write popular music today. Sex, drugs, rock and roll, even kinky stuff and all. Witch craft practiced, weird cults to, ask Charles Manson, he'll tell you. Were the Scouser's travelled the world did follow. 35 miles east in Manchester, other groups did follow. Success to did they have those lads from Lancashire, who like the German pied piper of Hamlein back in medievil times did play his flute and rats did follow.

t was a decade of enormous change – socially, politically and culturally.

Hemlines went up, aspirations grew and the music scene was revolutionised.

And nowhere led the charge through the 1960s more than the city of Liverpool.

Back in the 1950s a flourishing culture of groups began to emerge from the then declining skiffle scene. Influenced by American groups such as Buddy Holly and the Crickets beat bands sprang up. By the mid ‘60s it was estimated there were about 350 different bands active in the city, often playing ballrooms and clubs.


Of course the Beatles is the first name which springs to mind whenever the word ‘Merseybeat’ is mentioned but there were other big hitters like Cilla, Gerry and the Pacemakers, Billy J Kramer and The Searchers.

And, as our first dip into the archive proves – we’ll bring you the second part of our exclusive series next week – there were a whole host other talented musicians plying their trade – Tony and the Scholars, Colonel Bagshot, The Fourmost and the Roadrunners to name just a few.

Some are still with us, others are long gone. But one thing’s for certain – their music lives on.


1. The Beatles
2. Gerry and the Pacemakers
3. The Remo Four
4. Rory Storm and the Hurricanes
5. Johnny Sandon and The Searchers
6. Kingsize Taylor and the Dominoes
7. The Big Three
8. The Strangers
9. Faron & The Flamingos[19]
10. The Four Jays[20]
11. Ian and the Zodiacs[21]
12. The Undertakers
13. Earl Preston & The TTs
14. Mark Peters and the Cyclones[22]
15. Karl Terry and the Cruisers[23]
16. Derry and the Seniors
17. Steve and the Syndicate
18. Dee Fenton and the Silhouettes
19. Billy Kramer and the Dakotas
20. Dale Roberts and the Jaywalkers
21 The hollies
22.The Swinging Blue Jeans
23. The Searchers
24. The Liverbirds
25. Herman's Hermits
26. The Honeycombs
27. The Pretty Things
28.The Ivy League
29. The tornados
So many more besides.


Truly a time to remember and now a time long past.





jlf1961 -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 10:30:07 AM)

While I agree the music of the sixties was a revolution in music, and mirrored (some claim started) many of the changes in society, I would have to say that history overlooks the musical aspect of the decade and focuses on the turmoil of the era.

Then there are some that claim that freaking Canadian Justin Bieber is the herald of the new era of sixties style music (personally I believe that these people are the next batch of dictators and serial killers, because that is just too sick to contemplate.)




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 10:35:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: swingingsixties

Yes for sure most of you were not even born then and come to think of it neither were you're parents or mine come to that.

Truly a time to remember and now a time long past.

Speak for yourself!!

I was born.
Lived thru it all.
Went to many flower-power gatherings.

Didn't like much of the 50's stuff and don't consider anything much beyond 1980 to be musical either.
I still listen to my 60's and 70's stuff; not much else.




Baldrick -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 10:39:48 AM)

90% of music today is created in the lab as it were. The shows like The Voice and American Idol, have perpetuated shitty music, IMHO. I was born in the 60's and unfortunately lived through disco, but for me, the 80's where I came of age, and that is where most of my musical tastes still come from. As for Beiber, as NASA to shoot him into the sun for thr good of Mankind, and take the Kardashians with him




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 10:50:49 AM)

Most "music" from the 80's and beyond is a rip-off and copy from earlier decades.
The decades from the 50's is when the musicians actually played their instruments.
The bands were in harmony and nobody needed to 'follow' the lead - they were a single entity when they played on stage. Rick Wakeman (from Yes) summed it up when he was interviewed and said that when they performed, it was like one linked mind all working together to create that magical sound and harmony.
Just watch any of the old groups doing their stuff - even when they did a solo bit.
Look at Ginger Baker (cream) when he did his solo part in Toad; sheer magic.

You don't really get that with modern bands and artists.
They play to the audience, not for themselves - and it shows in their performance.




WhoreMods -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 10:55:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
Most "music" from the 80's and beyond is a rip-off and copy from earlier decades.

Quite. There were synthpop, post punk and acid house bands all over the place in the '60s...




jlf1961 -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 10:56:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Baldrick

90% of music today is created in the lab as it were. The shows like The Voice and American Idol, have perpetuated shitty music, IMHO. I was born in the 60's and unfortunately lived through disco, but for me, the 80's where I came of age, and that is where most of my musical tastes still come from. As for Beiber, as NASA to shoot him into the sun for thr good of Mankind, and take the Kardashians with him



Excuse me, but in order to deal with the threat posed by these individuals, you would have to blast their worshipers into the sun as well, and I am sorry to say, there is neither a heavy left vehicle large enough or a large enough number of heavy lift vehicles to accomplish this task.

So, we are stuck with them.




Lucylastic -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 11:01:14 AM)

Born in 62... Lived thru it...hated some of it, loved a lot of it.
Same with the 70s and 80s, glam rock, disco, punk, new age, electro, ska, I loved so much of it
Parents weaned me on blues, jazz, classical, swing, skiffle, rock n roll(teddyboys) folk songs,
I was into ballroom and latin dancing so I picked up love of latin music.
Its all a matter of personal taste, I love R&B, mowtown, soul. I cannot handle rap.
But even the 90s, 00s and now there is some good music. just not scads of it, and there are too many genres now to judge.
I just thank god for musicians of all types because life would be fucking shitty without music




WhoreMods -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 11:07:08 AM)

I've heard it suggested that there's so much stuff produced now that it's almost impossible to sift through enough of it to find all the good stuff. I much prefer that argument to "music's shit these days, it's not like it was when I was a kid", myself.




jlf1961 -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 11:34:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

I've heard it suggested that there's so much stuff produced now that it's almost impossible to sift through enough of it to find all the good stuff. I much prefer that argument to "music's shit these days, it's not like it was when I was a kid", myself.



You really want to get pissed off, a friend of mine with more doctorates than any normal person should have, recently wrote a piece of software that would take all music and break it down to component structure.

According to her, just about every piece written since the mid 80's seem to follow a specific formula and while the tempo and notes may vary, is, at its basic form, virtually the same thing.

She then wrote another chunk of software that would write original music based on specific, common values evidenced in popular music today.

She has the opinion that, at least in the art of music, humanity has lost the ability to be spontaneous or original.

For kicks I sent her a video of sections taken at random from every Elvis movie made, which even in the pure randomness, made sense.


Then of course you have the established bands who do covers of hits from days gone by, put a bit of a twist on it, and bingo it goes platinum.




WhoreMods -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 12:06:33 PM)

That sounds interesting. Which parts of the structure does it work on? Is it generalised enough to cover everything, or does it stick to the more limited forms of modern pop music? I know that Raymond Scott spent the last years of his career building some automatic music generator that worked by improvising in a limited way around harmonics. (I think Berry Gordy wound up buying that, but I don't believe it ever produced anything very interesting.)




jlf1961 -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 12:16:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

That sounds interesting. Which parts of the structure does it work on? Is it generalised enough to cover everything, or does it stick to the more limited forms of modern pop music? I know that Raymond Scott spent the last years of his career building some automatic music generator that worked by improvising in a limited way around harmonics. (I think Berry Gordy wound up buying that, but I don't believe it ever produced anything very interesting.)



I have no clue, I can play music (guitar and mp3 player/stereo) but as far as the rest, forget it.

My personal opinion is that everything written after the 80's with few exceptions is nothing more than organized noise, and that a well tuned Harley is a better choice of something to listen to.

But on a remotely related note, I have found on you tube a lot of music from the 60's and early 70's have been overlaid on videos of just about every war since the sixties, not just limited to the vietnam conflict.

What strikes me is that the piece used, more often than not, has nothing to do with conflict, at least on the surface.




MasterG2kTR -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/7/2016 1:05:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Speak for yourself!!

I was born.
Lived thru it all.
Went to many flower-power gatherings.

Didn't like much of the 50's stuff and don't consider anything much beyond 1980 to be musical either.
I still listen to my 60's and 70's stuff; not much else.




ditto [sm=agree.gif]




spencerhoward -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/8/2016 6:56:32 AM)

Justine Bieber! Does he actually have any real talent? The modern youngster brought up on what passes for music nowadays and lyrics that often cannot be heard will revolutionize nothing. Soon any jackass will be able to write music.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/8/2016 1:31:39 PM)

Music in the 60s was an inspiring time. It saw the first academic study of the music industry by the University of Florida in 1964. It gave birth to several new record companies and financially vitalized several small independent companies from the 50s.

Lemon Pipers - Green Tambourine 1967

I was 12 in 1967 when I first had my own record player. Green Tambourine was among the first records I bought.





jlf1961 -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/8/2016 1:59:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

Music in the 60s was an inspiring time. It saw the first academic study of the music industry by the University of Florida in 1964. It gave birth to several new record companies and financially vitalized several small independent companies from the 50s.

Lemon Pipers - Green Tambourine 1967

I was 12 in 1967 when I first had my own record player. Green Tambourine was among the first records I bought.





Okay ladies, you may now droll over the image of ResidentSadist dancing around the room to Green Tambourine wearing striped bell bottoms, and a Keith Partridge hair cut.....




DesFIP -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/8/2016 3:35:00 PM)

In A Gadda Da Vida, Iron Butterfly 1968.
My poor mother, listening to that early morning while I was getting ready to go catch the bus.




MrRodgers -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/8/2016 8:00:20 PM)

I go so far back you wouldn't believe me but 50' and 60's and a little into the 70's, as soon as a piece came on the radio, you knew who it was and the song. They all had their won sound and their own style. As a kid, music always filled the house, all different and from everywhere.

Once in the car with a friend, started the car, radio blares, ah Cream, White Room...in 3 notes. Friend goes off, you knew that in 3 notes ?




jlf1961 -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/8/2016 8:12:26 PM)

Well, considering that I did not start driving until the '70's, it was Journey, Styx, Kiss, Rush, Aerosmith, Bob Seger......

Night Moves was the theme song of my teen years...




isanyoneherereal -> RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. What a time we missed for sure. (8/10/2016 6:02:50 AM)

Cool Man a sixties senior citizen dude harking on about all our yesterdays and ancient history.




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