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Greta75 -> Go France (8/13/2016 12:50:46 AM)
Cannes bans full body burkini at beaches All I can say to the horrified Muslim women, no worries. You can still wear a full body diving wet suit. And then a swimming cap. There ya go! Funny thing is I actually wear that at a beach when I go snorkel as it's better than putting sunblock. To prevent burns.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 2:42:17 AM)
Good for France!! I am a strong believer that those who wish to relocate themselves to another country should fully integrate into the society they have chosen to live in. That means adopting the local customs, accepting the food, the dress code, attitude etc etc. By all means allow them the freedom to practice their religion in private as long as it is within the legalities of the land they have settled in. In other words, if you want to leave Mexico to escape {insert whatever reason here}, don't pick another place in the world and expect to find (or to impose) a mini-Mexico wherever you choose to relocate to. It all boils down to that old saying, "When in Rome..." etc. The essence being, if too many people change the look and feel of what Rome is/was, it loses its charm for all those that visit or live there and the very reason why they chose that location. If we went to a lot of Islamic countries, we are expected to adhere to their ways and customs. If we don't, there are very severe punishments and even the death penalty for not doing so. We should be the same here in the west - fit in, or GTFO. There is no way that we should even attempt to change our laws or bend too far to accommodate foreigners that visit us. After all, that's why they visit or want to live here in the first place isn't it?? For what it is, not what you want to change it into. For the Islamics, if they don't like pork or pork products, fine, don't eat it. But it's quite another to start demanding that eateries change their menu to accommodate them; add to the menu by all means, but don't remove items enjoyed by the local populace. Like their 'call to prayer'; why the fuck thould my peace be shattered by their wailings over a tannoy system loud enough to wake the dead? My local church doesn't do it, so why should we allow them to do it? If their followers don't know when it's prayer time, maybe they should change religion or buy a fucking alarm clock. If you don't like the way we do stuff - fuck off somewhere else. If you don't like our laws - go somewhere that has laws you like. Don't like the way we dress - fit in or GTFO. And that also goes for us Brits who want to live or retire on the Costa Brava or Costa Del Sol (Spain) - do the Spanish thing or expect to be deported. ETA: at least make some friggin' attempt to learn the lingo!!

bondageerone -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 2:50:36 AM)
BUENOS DIAS. GROUCH. XX

thompsonx -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 4:26:43 AM)
ORIGINAL: Greta75 Cannes bans full body burkini at beaches All I can say to the horrified Muslim women, no worries. You can still wear a full body diving wet suit. And then a swimming cap. There ya go! Funny thing is I actually wear that at a beach when I go snorkel as it's better than putting sunblock. To prevent burns. So how much weight do you carry?

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 6:28:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Greta75 Cannes bans full body burkini at beaches All I can say to the horrified Muslim women, no worries. You can still wear a full body diving wet suit. And then a swimming cap. There ya go! Funny thing is I actually wear that at a beach when I go snorkel as it's better than putting sunblock. To prevent burns. So how much weight do you carry? Why is this question relevant to the topic??? [8\|]

MasterBrentC -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 7:33:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Greta75 Cannes bans full body burkini at beaches All I can say to the horrified Muslim women, no worries. You can still wear a full body diving wet suit. And then a swimming cap. There ya go! Funny thing is I actually wear that at a beach when I go snorkel as it's better than putting sunblock. To prevent burns. So how much weight do you carry? Why is this question relevant to the topic??? [8\|] Thompson has a hard on for Greta but being a child he thinks being mean is the way to get her attention.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 8:00:04 AM)
freedomdwarf1 thoughts mirror my own but I am completely ejecting your Mexican paragraph(you wasted your response with that)....do not do that again - over looking the fact it has shag all to do with greta75 thread...and if you require a history/relevance lesson I am all for giving one. No women are subhuman

dcnovice -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 9:17:32 AM)
quote: if you want to leave Mexico to escape {insert whatever reason here}, don't pick another place in the world and expect to find (or to impose) a mini-Mexico wherever you choose to relocate to. Isn't that exactly what Europeans did in North America and the British in India? ETA: Hell, Martinborough, N.Z., was actually laid out to resemble a Union Jack!

BamaD -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 9:28:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: if you want to leave Mexico to escape {insert whatever reason here}, don't pick another place in the world and expect to find (or to impose) a mini-Mexico wherever you choose to relocate to. Isn't that exactly what Europeans did in North America and the British in India? ETA: Hell, Martinborough, N.Z., was actually laid out to resemble a Union Jack! You are aware that the Europeans came to these places as invaders, not refugees?

dcnovice -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 9:29:26 AM)
FR If someone wants to wear more than the legal minimum at the beach, what business is it of anyone else's? I'm partial, even in the water, to large T-shirts that make me less self-conscious about my weight and (these days) surgery mementos. That in no way infringes John Q. Stud's right to sport his Speedo--a sight I'd not only legally defend but likely enjoy.

dcnovice -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 9:31:14 AM)
quote: You are aware that the Europeans came to these places as invaders, not refugees? Yes. That would seem to make imposing their culture even less justifiable, not more.

NorthernGent1 -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 9:41:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 Cannes bans full body burkini at beaches All I can say to the horrified Muslim women, no worries. You can still wear a full body diving wet suit. And then a swimming cap. There ya go! Funny thing is I actually wear that at a beach when I go snorkel as it's better than putting sunblock. To prevent burns. Yeah, well done France. Bullying women into making them wear what you think is acceptable. This is a good example of why France is such an amateur, arsehole country. Fuckin' idiots. Yeah some lass is minding her own business, by all means you bully the life out of her because she's different to you. Hope she drops a bomb on your face. Thank fuck we are out of the European Union because those people are so fuckin' far gone they don't realise how fuckin' insane they are.

thompsonx -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 9:43:15 AM)
ORIGINAL: BamaD You are aware that the Europeans came to these places as invaders, not refugees? Liar

BamaD -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 9:43:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: You are aware that the Europeans came to these places as invaders, not refugees? Yes. That would seem to make imposing their culture even less justifiable, not more. It does not require that they allow their culture to be overridden by every Tom, Dick, and Ali who comes along.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 9:43:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire freedomdwarf1 thoughts mirror my own but I am completely ejecting your Mexican paragraph(you wasted your response with that)....do not do that again - over looking the fact it has shag all to do with greta75 thread...and if you require a history/relevance lesson I am all for giving one. No women are subhuman It was a nonsense example to illustrate a point and has everything to do with Greta's thread. The point being: Bring yourself to your new destination but leave the trappings of what used to be back where you came from. In other words, learn to fully integrate into the new society and not rebuild the old regime you left behind. Otherwise, what's the point of relocating if all you want to do is remake what you left behind?

dcnovice -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 9:53:25 AM)
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dcnovice -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 9:58:07 AM)
quote: Bring yourself to your new destination but leave the trappings of what used to be back where you came from. In other words, learn to fully integrate into the new society and not rebuild the old regime you left behind. Over the centuries, many folks, my own ancestors among them, immigrated to the U.S., which long saw itself as a white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant country. Should Jews have refrained from building synagogues and yeshivas? Catholics from creating cathedrals and parochial schools?

dcnovice -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 10:05:10 AM)
FR Another perspective on a minority culture in a larger society (emphasis mine): Gentlemen: While I received with much satisfaction your address replete with expressions of esteem, I rejoice in the opportunity of assuring you that I shall always retain grateful remembrance of the cordial welcome I experienced on my visit to Newport from all classes of citizens. The reflection on the days of difficulty and danger which are past is rendered the more sweet from a consciousness that they are succeeded by days of uncommon prosperity and security. If we have wisdom to make the best use of the advantages with which we are now favored, we cannot fail, under the just administration of a good government, to become a great and happy people. The citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy—a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of as if it were the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights, for, happily, the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens in giving it on all occasions their effectual support. It would be inconsistent with the frankness of my character not to avow that I am pleased with your favorable opinion of my administration and fervent wishes for my felicity. May the children of the stock of Abraham who dwell in this land continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other inhabitants—while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree and there shall be none to make him afraid. May the father of all mercies scatter light, and not darkness, upon our paths, and make us all in our several vocations useful here, and in His own due time and way everlastingly happy. G. Washington Letter to the Jews of Newport, 18 August 1790

Lucylastic -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 12:02:28 PM)
FR... this sounds like the 1920s when they banned the swimsuit You wanna BAN someone wearing a fucking full body suit? why???? not enough tits and arse for you ???? Everybody has to be in swimsuits or bikinis? or what? knotted handkerchiefs and suspender socks? get to fuck ignorant stupidity.

MariaB -> RE: Go France (8/13/2016 12:02:30 PM)
Le Monde points out that no French law bans the wearing of full-body swimsuits. "The law on the full-face veil only bans covering the face in public... The burkini, which covers the body but does not hide the face, is thus a totally legal garment."

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