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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Vince... when a police officer is chasing you and says drop your gun... it makes no difference if you have a permit or not. Now there will be, as there should be, an investigation and if lawful citizens want to protest that is there right... But there is no excuse for what is happening Milwaukee. There is a difference between lawful protest and attacking innocents and destroying property.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Granting that there have been police shootings where outrage is warranted, arson and destruction in a case where the guy was armed and refused to drop the weapon when ordered to do so?

Hard to justify the crowd's outrage on this one. However, the events are kind of murky. Kid was being chased while carrying a gun. Was he shot in the back while he ran? Was he backed against a wall? Was he a threat to the officer's life? Does any of that matter?

Difficult to draw any conclusion expect yours until the body video is released.

A person with a handgun fleeing is a danger to the public.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Vince... when a police officer is chasing you and says drop your gun... it makes no difference if you have a permit or not. Now there will be, as there should be, an investigation and if lawful citizens want to protest that is there right... But there is no excuse for what is happening Milwaukee. There is a difference between lawful protest and attacking innocents and destroying property.

Butch

Oh, I never claimed this was a lawful protest. And it probably involves much more than this particular incident. Like many other major northern cities Milwaukee is suffering the consequences of the immigration of southern blacks and the simultaneous or subsequent loss of low skill manufacturing jobs.

According to an analysis by 24/7 Wall St., Milwaukee is the worst city for black Americans. Among other things, the unemployment rate among black Americans in the city is 17.2%, against a 6.0% unemployment rate among all people. The median household income among African Americans in the city is 41.6% that of the whites

Like in other parts of the Midwest, large numbers of African Americans traveled to the Milwaukee area in the 1960s to take advantage of the booming manufacturing industry. Soon after a black community formed, however, the city’s industrial base all but collapsed, contributing to racial disparities in the region.

An estimated 16.7% of the Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis metro area identify as black, higher than the nationwide proportion. In Milwaukee proper, however, roughly 40% of the population identifies as black.

source

Prominent civil rights groups have banded together to ask Wisconsin and Milwaukee to take steps to improve police-community relations in Milwaukee.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin, the Jewish Community Relations Council and the League of United Latin American Citizens have formed a civil rights coalition calling for change.

Fred Royal, president of the NAACP Milwaukee chapter, said the state Legislature should create a diverse board of Milwaukee citizens to oversee investigations and make recommendations pertaining to officer-involved shootings and other "critical incidents." The board would be different from the Milwaukee Fire and Police Commission, Royal said.

source

Given the racial disparities this looks more or less like a mini version of Watts or Detroit back in the day.

I suspect there is no near future solution for the apartheid problem in our major cities.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

So we have to assume the cops are lying right?

always. only a fool wouldnt since they are a big business, on the stock market which rivals the national.



Prisons for Profit

America's Top Prison Corporation: A Study in Predatory Capitalism and Cronyism
Thursday, 03 May 2012 09:27 By Dina Rasor, Truthout | News Analysis

Prisoners in paper(Image: Jared Rodriguez / Truthout)Last week I wrote about the private prison company The GEO Group and how allowing private businesses to operate prisons can affect our justice system, our laws and the fate of our prison population. This week, I will tackle the largest private prison company, the Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) and its unprecedented proposal to buy prisons from money-strapped states, as well as how CCA has gamed the system with trips through the revolving door, self-dealing and influence peddling.

Just to set the stage as to how large the prison population is in the United States: our prison population is the highest in the world; one out of 100 US residents are in prison. This number has grown dramatically since 1990, due to tighter crime laws and longer sentences. According to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), "Between 1970 and 2005, the number of people incarcerated in the United States grew by 700 percent. Today, the United States incarcerates approximately 2.3 million people."

The private prison population has also been exploding. From the ACLU:

Even compared to this breathtaking rate of overall growth in incarceration, the rate of expansion of for-profit imprisonment far outpaced the field, accounting for a disproportionate increase in the number of people locked up. In 1980, private adult prisons did not exist on American soil, but by 1990 private prison companies had established a firm foothold, boasting 67 for-profit facilities and an average daily population of roughly 7,000 prisoners. During the next twenty years (from 1990 to 2009) the number of people incarcerated in private prisons increased by more than 1600%, growing from approximately 7,000 to approximately 129,000 inmates.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbbuaIA3Ds

Time to pick up a few shares their stock are doing great!

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You do understand that you are advocating anarchy.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I do not believe he is per se, but wants government to be very limited.

T^T

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Vince... when a police officer is chasing you and says drop your gun... it makes no difference if you have a permit or not. Now there will be, as there should be, an investigation and if lawful citizens want to protest that is there right... But there is no excuse for what is happening Milwaukee. There is a difference between lawful protest and attacking innocents and destroying property.

Butch

Oh, I never claimed this was a lawful protest. And it probably involves much more than this particular incident. Like many other major northern cities Milwaukee is suffering the consequences of the immigration of southern blacks and the simultaneous or subsequent loss of low skill manufacturing jobs.

According to an analysis by 24/7 Wall St., Milwaukee is the worst city for black Americans. Among other things, the unemployment rate among black Americans in the city is 17.2%, against a 6.0% unemployment rate among all people. The median household income among African Americans in the city is 41.6% that of the whites

Like in other parts of the Midwest, large numbers of African Americans traveled to the Milwaukee area in the 1960s to take advantage of the booming manufacturing industry. Soon after a black community formed, however, the city’s industrial base all but collapsed, contributing to racial disparities in the region.

An estimated 16.7% of the Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis metro area identify as black, higher than the nationwide proportion. In Milwaukee proper, however, roughly 40% of the population identifies as black.

source

Prominent civil rights groups have banded together to ask Wisconsin and Milwaukee to take steps to improve police-community relations in Milwaukee.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin, the Jewish Community Relations Council and the League of United Latin American Citizens have formed a civil rights coalition calling for change.

Fred Royal, president of the NAACP Milwaukee chapter, said the state Legislature should create a diverse board of Milwaukee citizens to oversee investigations and make recommendations pertaining to officer-involved shootings and other "critical incidents." The board would be different from the Milwaukee Fire and Police Commission, Royal said.

source

Given the racial disparities this looks more or less like a mini version of Watts or Detroit back in the day.

I suspect there is no near future solution for the apartheid problem in our major cities.

A goo step toward improving community-police relations would be to stop pointing guns at them.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Vince... when a police officer is chasing you and says drop your gun... it makes no difference if you have a permit or not. Now there will be, as there should be, an investigation and if lawful citizens want to protest that is there right... But there is no excuse for what is happening Milwaukee. There is a difference between lawful protest and attacking innocents and destroying property.

Butch

Oh, I never claimed this was a lawful protest. And it probably involves much more than this particular incident. Like many other major northern cities Milwaukee is suffering the consequences of the immigration of southern blacks and the simultaneous or subsequent loss of low skill manufacturing jobs.

According to an analysis by 24/7 Wall St., Milwaukee is the worst city for black Americans. Among other things, the unemployment rate among black Americans in the city is 17.2%, against a 6.0% unemployment rate among all people. The median household income among African Americans in the city is 41.6% that of the whites

Like in other parts of the Midwest, large numbers of African Americans traveled to the Milwaukee area in the 1960s to take advantage of the booming manufacturing industry. Soon after a black community formed, however, the city’s industrial base all but collapsed, contributing to racial disparities in the region.

An estimated 16.7% of the Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis metro area identify as black, higher than the nationwide proportion. In Milwaukee proper, however, roughly 40% of the population identifies as black.

source

Prominent civil rights groups have banded together to ask Wisconsin and Milwaukee to take steps to improve police-community relations in Milwaukee.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin, the Jewish Community Relations Council and the League of United Latin American Citizens have formed a civil rights coalition calling for change.

Fred Royal, president of the NAACP Milwaukee chapter, said the state Legislature should create a diverse board of Milwaukee citizens to oversee investigations and make recommendations pertaining to officer-involved shootings and other "critical incidents." The board would be different from the Milwaukee Fire and Police Commission, Royal said.

source

Given the racial disparities this looks more or less like a mini version of Watts or Detroit back in the day.

I suspect there is no near future solution for the apartheid problem in our major cities.

A goo step toward improving community-police relations would be to stop pointing guns at them.

We don't know that the gun was pointed at the cop. If the kid turned toward him with gun in hand the cop had justification for shooting, no doubt. However, as i said above, the problem of American Apartheid is much greater than this single shooting incident, and i fail to see an easy solution given the economic and technological changes already here and more coming down the road in the future.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
So we have to assume the cops are lying right?

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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
So we have to assume the cops are lying right?

Given the number of times that police reports, official statements, and "investigations" have failed to coincide with video evidence and given the amount of cover-up that automatically happens any time there is an incident like this... Yes. I assume that the cops are lying.

What do you do when you find the information you receive from some source is routinely unreliable?

Note, I'm also not in favor of an assumption of guilt on the part of the officer. I just assume that whatever I'm being told by "the authorities" is probably bullshit to some degree or another and feel we need an outside investigative body. Sadly, in the US I'm not sure where we'd find a reliable one.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Vince... when a police officer is chasing you and says drop your gun... it makes no difference if you have a permit or not. Now there will be, as there should be, an investigation and if lawful citizens want to protest that is there right... But there is no excuse for what is happening Milwaukee. There is a difference between lawful protest and attacking innocents and destroying property.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Vince... when a police officer is chasing you and says drop your gun... it makes no difference if you have a permit or not. Now there will be, as there should be, an investigation and if lawful citizens want to protest that is there right... But there is no excuse for what is happening Milwaukee. There is a difference between lawful protest and attacking innocents and destroying property.

Butch

Oh, I never claimed this was a lawful protest. And it probably involves much more than this particular incident. Like many other major northern cities Milwaukee is suffering the consequences of the immigration of southern blacks and the simultaneous or subsequent loss of low skill manufacturing jobs.

According to an analysis by 24/7 Wall St., Milwaukee is the worst city for black Americans. Among other things, the unemployment rate among black Americans in the city is 17.2%, against a 6.0% unemployment rate among all people. The median household income among African Americans in the city is 41.6% that of the whites

Like in other parts of the Midwest, large numbers of African Americans traveled to the Milwaukee area in the 1960s to take advantage of the booming manufacturing industry. Soon after a black community formed, however, the city’s industrial base all but collapsed, contributing to racial disparities in the region.

An estimated 16.7% of the Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis metro area identify as black, higher than the nationwide proportion. In Milwaukee proper, however, roughly 40% of the population identifies as black.

source

Prominent civil rights groups have banded together to ask Wisconsin and Milwaukee to take steps to improve police-community relations in Milwaukee.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin, the Jewish Community Relations Council and the League of United Latin American Citizens have formed a civil rights coalition calling for change.

Fred Royal, president of the NAACP Milwaukee chapter, said the state Legislature should create a diverse board of Milwaukee citizens to oversee investigations and make recommendations pertaining to officer-involved shootings and other "critical incidents." The board would be different from the Milwaukee Fire and Police Commission, Royal said.

source

Given the racial disparities this looks more or less like a mini version of Watts or Detroit back in the day.

I suspect there is no near future solution for the apartheid problem in our major cities.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
There have been cases where the original statements by the cops are wrong, and who cmes up with the proof it is wrong? Not the rioters, not the protestors, the cops who you only trust when they through an officer under the bus.

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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
So we have to assume the cops are lying right?

Given the number of times that police reports, official statements, and "investigations" have failed to coincide with video evidence and given the amount of cover-up that automatically happens any time there is an incident like this... Yes. I assume that the cops are lying.

What do you do when you find the information you receive from some source is routinely unreliable?

Note, I'm also not in favor of an assumption of guilt on the part of the officer. I just assume that whatever I'm being told by "the authorities" is probably bullshit to some degree or another and feel we need an outside investigative body. Sadly, in the US I'm not sure where we'd find a reliable one.

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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
There have been cases where the original statements by the cops are wrong, and who cmes up with the proof it is wrong? Not the rioters, not the protestors, the cops who you only trust when they through an officer under the bus.

You and I have a very different understand of how this process occurs. It seems to be the activists who come up with the proof which they then have to jam down the throats of the local judiciary which typically is completely uninterested.

If I believed as you did then I wouldn't be supportive of BLM. In my mind, the "cops" have proven 100% ineffective at policing themselves... as most groups prove to be. In fact, I could question whether "self policing" is even a thing.

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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
So we have to assume the cops are lying right?

Given the number of times that police reports, official statements, and "investigations" have failed to coincide with video evidence and given the amount of cover-up that automatically happens any time there is an incident like this... Yes. I assume that the cops are lying.

What do you do when you find the information you receive from some source is routinely unreliable?

Note, I'm also not in favor of an assumption of guilt on the part of the officer. I just assume that whatever I'm being told by "the authorities" is probably bullshit to some degree or another and feel we need an outside investigative body. Sadly, in the US I'm not sure where we'd find a reliable one.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

Apparently, the kids father just came out and said it was his fault. He says that he's been in and out of jail so much that he's been a poor role model.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

Apparently, the kids father just came out and said it was his fault. He says that he's been in and out of jail so much that he's been a poor role model.

That had to be hard for him to say.
I just saw that his sister is demanding that the cop be charged.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Vince... when a police officer is chasing you and says drop your gun... it makes no difference if you have a permit or not. Now there will be, as there should be, an investigation and if lawful citizens want to protest that is there right... But there is no excuse for what is happening Milwaukee. There is a difference between lawful protest and attacking innocents and destroying property.

Butch

Oh, I never claimed this was a lawful protest. And it probably involves much more than this particular incident. Like many other major northern cities Milwaukee is suffering the consequences of the immigration of southern blacks and the simultaneous or subsequent loss of low skill manufacturing jobs.

According to an analysis by 24/7 Wall St., Milwaukee is the worst city for black Americans. Among other things, the unemployment rate among black Americans in the city is 17.2%, against a 6.0% unemployment rate among all people. The median household income among African Americans in the city is 41.6% that of the whites

Like in other parts of the Midwest, large numbers of African Americans traveled to the Milwaukee area in the 1960s to take advantage of the booming manufacturing industry. Soon after a black community formed, however, the city’s industrial base all but collapsed, contributing to racial disparities in the region.

An estimated 16.7% of the Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis metro area identify as black, higher than the nationwide proportion. In Milwaukee proper, however, roughly 40% of the population identifies as black.

source

Prominent civil rights groups have banded together to ask Wisconsin and Milwaukee to take steps to improve police-community relations in Milwaukee.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin, the Jewish Community Relations Council and the League of United Latin American Citizens have formed a civil rights coalition calling for change.

Fred Royal, president of the NAACP Milwaukee chapter, said the state Legislature should create a diverse board of Milwaukee citizens to oversee investigations and make recommendations pertaining to officer-involved shootings and other "critical incidents." The board would be different from the Milwaukee Fire and Police Commission, Royal said.

source

Given the racial disparities this looks more or less like a mini version of Watts or Detroit back in the day.

I suspect there is no near future solution for the apartheid problem in our major cities.