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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 9:59:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: Chaska

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ORIGINAL: Chaska


There is NO show here for them.


Why do you think they should be there?
Do you think the klan and the mafia should also be there?




Who is they?
Did I say they should be there?
Do you mean BLM and the black panthers?
That profess black lives matter and all lives matter?
Why should they not be there?
Why are they not there making a contribution?
Would that not prove they really mean and care that all lives matter?
Did I say the klan and mafia should or should not be there?
Do you think the klan and mafia should be there?
Do the klan and mafia profess all lives matter?
Why should the klan and mafia not be there?
Do you know the klan or mafia wasn't there?
When was the last time you even remotely heard of the klan and mafia
saying or doing anything about or to black lives?
Why do fucktarts always throw the klan and mafia into the mix?
Why don't you try making a contribution to a discussion for once in your life, instead of providing only short snide remarks?


Good attempt at trying to control "thread drift".
I have learned that no matter how many times you type something on here, many will twist what you have said, or bring arguments to your thread, that are already going on already on most of the other threads.
It's the price you pay for coming here, you may eventually become selective to what you read and respond to.
As a person of color, I've learned to stay away from many threads on here.
IF I jump in, I will post once or twice and not look back.
I have ADHD so it's real easy for me to ignore/not read most of the nonsense on here.
You must protect your own mental health here, to enjoy your message board experiences.



Thank you, I understand what you're saying, that is why I don't engage the fray that goes on here. It's pointless, unproductive and a waste of time. Although, In this case I felt that a least one attempt to bring clarity with questions was worthwhile. If it works fine, If not then they can argue with themselves or whomever, I don't have the time or inclination to continue infertile conversations. No worries infantile behavior has no effect on me.


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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 10:25:05 AM   
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I have a question for you.
What do you think about the government's response in terms of helping the flooding victims in Louisiana?

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 10:56:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Marini

I have a question for you.
What do you think about the government's response in terms of helping the flooding victims in Louisiana?


Short answer, I think the government is incompetent and not capable of doing most anything other than spending money they do not have. I can expand on this and similar events later I'm about to leave for a prior engagement.

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 11:04:23 AM   
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"Is this by design to keep us divided for fear we will come together as a people? "

In the past I would not even consider the possibility, but now I think it is possible, almost probable.

T^T

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 11:09:03 AM   
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There is NO show here for them.


Why do you think they should be there?
Do you think the klan and the mafia should also be there?




I agree. They are a bunch of useless fucks. If not, they would be at work instead of pointing guns at cops, or advocating it.

Like OWS, people who work do not have time for such bullshit and I got even less respect for them protesting because they had to buy the cheaper Mercedes Benz. And this because they spent $100,000 of government money on liberal arts.

The only protest that matters is the one that makes the government afraid.

T^T

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 11:28:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx




There is NO show here for them.


Why do you think they should be there?
Do you think the klan and the mafia should also be there?




Who is they?

It is a pretty self explanitory question. You stated that there was no show here for them. The they I ask of are the them you spoke of.
Why is that difficult for you to understand?


Did I say they should be there?


Did I?

Do you mean BLM and the black panthers?


I mean the them you posted about.

That profess black lives matter and all lives matter?
Why should they not be there?


Perhaps because they are not fema or any other such emergency management group. What they claim to be is a group of people who are concerned with police murdering black people under color of authority. Since this is not a case of the police murdering black people under color of authority, why do you think they should be there?

Why are they not there making a contribution?

Why should they? Why should you?

Would that not prove they really mean and care that all lives matter?


Perhaps if you were to acquaint yourself with thier mission statement you would not ask such a peurile question.

Did I say the klan and mafia should or should not be there?

That is the question I asked you.



Do you think the klan and mafia should be there?

Do you think it would show that they believe that all lives matter?

Do the klan and mafia profess all lives matter?


Why do you care?


Why should the klan and mafia not be there?


Why would I care?


Do you know the klan or mafia wasn't there?


Do you think if they were they would have pimped it?


When was the last time you even remotely heard of the klan and mafia
saying or doing anything about or to black lives?


The klan has a website the mafia does not.


Why do fucktarts always throw the klan and mafia into the mix?



Check with the fucktarts.

Why don't you try making a contribution to a discussion for once in your life,

I have made nearly 20,000.



instead of providing only short snide remarks?


You might want to get an adult to explain what the word irony means.

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 11:33:52 AM   
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Short answer, I think the government is incompetent and not capable of doing most anything other than spending money they do not have.

Who would you have fight your wars?
Who would you have fight your fires?
Who would have built your railroad?
Who would have built your steel mills?
Who would have built the highways?

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 11:36:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
ORIGINAL: Chaska


There is NO show here for them.


Why do you think they should be there?
Do you think the klan and the mafia should also be there?




I agree. They are a bunch of useless fucks. If not, they would be at work instead of pointing guns at cops, or advocating it.

Kinda like thomas jefferson, sam adams and the gang ehh?



The only protest that matters is the one that makes the government afraid.

Ever hear of a ballot box?

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 1:08:44 PM   
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"Why don't you try making a contribution to a discussion for once in your life,

I have made nearly 20,000.
"


We do not call those contributions. Maybe 10 % of what you post has any substance. The rest is just insulting people with whom you disagree.

T^T

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 1:22:32 PM   
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Short answer, I think the government is incompetent and not capable of doing most anything other than spending money they do not have.

Who would you have fight your wars?
Who would you have fight your fires?
Who would have built your railroad?
Who would have built your steel mills?
Who would have built the highways?



1. They are not our wars, they are wars for big business buddies of theirs.
2. They dismantled the railroad. Now trucks have to drive cross country.
3. They took the steel mills and sent the usable parts to other countries.
4. They highways around here are a fucking wreck, and made to be.

They do nothing for us, they do it for their friends, the ones who pay them through lobby money and campaign donations. Whatever they throw in for us is just to get the votes to stay in office to keep helping their frieds get richer. They use a shitty material for the roads to keep themselves in business. The best roads are turnpikes and they have sold them to private companies, and not all in the US. And steel mills ? Try to find one. Yes there are a few but when countries that are the size of a US state put out more than this whole country, which used to be a leader in the process, something has changed.

They have fucked up everything, the schools. You know why business is not coming back ? it is not the high taxes and poor roads, punishing regulations and all that, it is that they cannot find people with skills and a work ethic. And that takes at least a generation to fix.

Generations before them built it and now they have fucked it up. You expect us to praise them ?

Not hardly, not even softly.

T^T

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 1:44:19 PM   
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"Kinda like thomas jefferson, sam adams and the gang ehh? "

Without them you would have no guns and have to pay a telly tax.

"Ever hear of a ballot box?"

Sure. Now put someone on the ballot with a fucking brain AND LOYALTY. Last President had a real brain was GHW Bush but he was loyal to oil. Not us. I really think Obama is loyal, but he is not sharp enough for the job. Bill Clinton was just a face. Reagan was loyal I think but half daft. Nixon did a couple wrong things, mainly getting rid of Breton Woods but Keynsians agree with that. That was something democrats would do. He should have never allowed Watergate to happen, in fact he could have had Liddy prosecuted and probably avoided impeachment. But none of us have all the facts in that case and never will. Carter was incompetent and was part of the cause of the theocracy in Iran. He gave them good reason to not like us. Then, was it LBJ put us in Nam which was a disaster ? I forget who put us in Korea, and that was not really a success because there is still a North Korea.

And they had the goddamn gall to put down the south in the civil war ? And then do all the shit they did after ? This is fucking ridiculous.

You know, if just half of the military (I WILL NOT call it defense) budget was poured into the infrastructure and education (which can be considered part of it) this country could thrive, if they used the money right. But they wouldn't. Instead of math and science they would be teaching cultural diversity and the mating habits of the tse-tse fly or red footed booby. But if they did it right, this country would have a favorable environment for business and even if it does not come back, people here would start it and grow, just like last time before they razed it. Rich people here are sitting on their money for very good reasons and it ain't just taxes.

The environmental rules are ridiculous. I would support them if ALL countries were bound by them. Level the playing field so to speak. But these assholes cripple us while letting China and other countries belch shit into the other side of the fish tank.

If I were the governor of Louisiana I would tell the feds to just stay the fuck out and send money. We don't want your inept people nor your stupid methodology, we will take care of it but we could use a little bit of money. What's more we'll probably spend less than you and get better results.

"Who's going to fight our wars ?". We have ever had a war, our government has had plenty. And they do not share the booty or the bounty.

T^T

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 2:10:45 PM   
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"Why don't you try making a contribution to a discussion for once in your life,

I have made nearly 20,000.

We do not call those contributions.

That is because you are an ignorant phoque who can neither read nor comprehend.





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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 2:15:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
ORIGINAL: Chaska


Short answer, I think the government is incompetent and not capable of doing most anything other than spending money they do not have.

Who would you have fight your wars?
Who would you have fight your fires?
Who would have built your railroad?
Who would have built your steel mills?
Who would have built the highways?



1. They are not our wars, they are wars for big business buddies of theirs.

You live here sweetie so they belong to you.

2. They dismantled the railroad. Now trucks have to drive cross country.

The tracks and the choo choos are still there.

3. They took the steel mills and sent the usable parts to other countries.

Are you too igorant to recognize who paid to have them built?

4. They highways around here are a fucking wreck, and made to be.

Once again they are what we drive on and they are made by the government you voted into office.


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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 2:16:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"Why don't you try making a contribution to a discussion for once in your life,

I have made nearly 20,000.

We do not call those contributions.

That is because you are an ignorant phoque who can neither read nor comprehend.







So, in your opinion the post ^ above contributed to the conversation ?

And I am ignorant.

Gotcha. I bet you work for the government.

T^T

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 2:20:13 PM   
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"Kinda like thomas jefferson, sam adams and the gang ehh? "

Without them you would have no guns and have to pay a telly tax.


The point, that you missed, was that they were the ones pointing guns at cops and advocating it.
Try to pay attention or get a grown up to help you with the big words.



"Ever hear of a ballot box?"

Sure. Now put someone on the ballot with a fucking brain AND LOYALTY. Last President had a real brain was GHW Bush but he was loyal to oil. Not us. I really think Obama is loyal, but he is not sharp enough for the job. Bill Clinton was just a face. Reagan was loyal I think but half daft. Nixon did a couple wrong things, mainly getting rid of Breton Woods but Keynsians agree with that. That was something democrats would do. He should have never allowed Watergate to happen, in fact he could have had Liddy prosecuted and probably avoided impeachment. But none of us have all the facts in that case and never will. Carter was incompetent and was part of the cause of the theocracy in Iran. He gave them good reason to not like us. Then, was it LBJ put us in Nam which was a disaster ? I forget who put us in Korea, and that was not really a success because there is still a North Korea.

You are terminally ignorant.



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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/20/2016 2:23:03 PM   
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"Why don't you try making a contribution to a discussion for once in your life,

I have made nearly 20,000.

We do not call those contributions.

That is because you are an ignorant phoque who can neither read nor comprehend.








And I am ignorant.

As a stone

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/21/2016 10:10:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chaska


quote:

ORIGINAL: Marini

I have a question for you.
What do you think about the government's response in terms of helping the flooding victims in Louisiana?


Short answer, I think the government is incompetent and not capable of doing most anything other than spending money they do not have. I can expand on this and similar events later I'm about to leave for a prior engagement.



Please bear with I will get to your question.

I failed in my original post to point out what I saw as the most important aspect of the flood tragic as it is.
I dealt with the same problem in 2008 as did my community, my story of loss or the others is not of importance.
What we shared at the time was loss of property, belongings, cost of rebuilding etc. We came together as people
of the community Black, White and all races to help each other from the beginning to the end to deal with and get
through the crisis in anyway we could.

The same is happening in Baton Rouge, this is the same community where a black man (last month) was shoot my police. There were the protest much the same that happens when this takes place else where that also spark riots, violence , burning business destroying the very community they live in. Often this happens in city's the incident did not take place. This is also where six police officers where shot five killed one is still in the hospital fighting for his life, this was in retaliation for the shooting of the black man. No protest or riots took place although these family's lost love ones just as well.

I would like to share another link that also shows the sharp contract between the two events, ( Baton Rouge )
Now, we have a community that has come together as one in unity ( both black and white ) to deal with the crisis at hand including some of the very ones that lost love ones in the shooting from both sides. If this is possible then I would think the same could be done in instances where shooting take place. Not only that, this is exactly where it needs to begin the community where the events take place. It's at least a starting point from there it can build to other areas that deal with the same issues.

Back to your question, I was taught some valuable lessens as a child at the time I did not understand the why(?)
I was given responsibility's, chores things I could do and learn at the appropriate age(s) including and not limited
to keeping my room clean and Items picked and stored in the proper place, do the same around the house,
washing dishes (that meant doing so correctly or you would have to wash every dish in the house) dry and put them where they belonged. Bear in mind I was one of nine kids, maybe some would now consider to harsh or hard on a child. As I aged the responsibility's and chores grew, My father was a man of few words that did not explain things in detail. Had to read between the lines, he meant that this tasks where meant to be done when they needed to be done and how they were to me done without being asked to go do them.


I'm really not rambling ( although it could be considered that way ) It's just sharing my experience is the best way
I know to answer your question. It was not until I had grown and was on my own that I realized he was teaching
me the basic skills to survive. To have the ability to stand on my own two feet, be responsible for myself and my actions because ultimately it was all up to me and I would be accountable good, bad, right or wrong. This is something I see that is missing in society today and the young people are paying a heavy price, Just look around kids are living at home that should and need to be on their own, parents are still taking care of kids that are grown some rising their grand children.

We simply can not rely on the government to solve or do everything for us, sure they can help, but, don't expect
or rely on it. This has become a problem, because some not only rely, they expect and fill entitled, for the government for far to much, to house, feed, solve any and all problems. Yet not wanting to put the effort to do for themselves and their family's. This is self imposed oppression, It is not helping this people it does not make life any easier for them, it truly holds them back from their potential. Please don't misunderstand, ( when I say people I mean all regardless of colour ) I'm all for helping those in need, as a hand up , just not a hand out.

By giving a hand up, teaching responsibilities, skill sets and the basics needed to stand on their own, with pride and dignity. This is real help that lets people grow and prosper, it starts in the community they live in with people within that can help. They have to want it and do what is necessary to achieve their goals, I truly believe it is not only possible but achievable.

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/21/2016 10:15:59 AM   
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"Is this by design to keep us divided for fear we will come together as a people? "

In the past I would not even consider the possibility, but now I think it is possible, almost probable.

T^T


I'm with you on that, divide and conquer oldest tactic in the book.

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/21/2016 10:20:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Chaska
ORIGINAL: thompsonx




There is NO show here for them.


Why do you think they should be there?
Do you think the klan and the mafia should also be there?




Who is they?

It is a pretty self explanitory question. You stated that there was no show here for them. The they I ask of are the them you spoke of.
Why is that difficult for you to understand?


Did I say they should be there?


Did I?

Do you mean BLM and the black panthers?


I mean the them you posted about.

That profess black lives matter and all lives matter?
Why should they not be there?


Perhaps because they are not fema or any other such emergency management group. What they claim to be is a group of people who are concerned with police murdering black people under color of authority. Since this is not a case of the police murdering black people under color of authority, why do you think they should be there?

Why are they not there making a contribution?

Why should they? Why should you?

Would that not prove they really mean and care that all lives matter?


Perhaps if you were to acquaint yourself with thier mission statement you would not ask such a peurile question.

Did I say the klan and mafia should or should not be there?

That is the question I asked you.



Do you think the klan and mafia should be there?

Do you think it would show that they believe that all lives matter?

Do the klan and mafia profess all lives matter?


Why do you care?


Why should the klan and mafia not be there?


Why would I care?


Do you know the klan or mafia wasn't there?


Do you think if they were they would have pimped it?


When was the last time you even remotely heard of the klan and mafia
saying or doing anything about or to black lives?


The klan has a website the mafia does not.


Why do fucktarts always throw the klan and mafia into the mix?



Check with the fucktarts.

Why don't you try making a contribution to a discussion for once in your life,

I have made nearly 20,000.



instead of providing only short snide remarks?


You might want to get an adult to explain what the word irony means.



If(?) And when you grow up and are able to have an adult conversation come back and see me. Until then, begone little boy you add nothing to this theater other than being a nudnik.

ETA: Someone already took the liberty to answer the other post questions, If you're to blind to see the truth then
there is no hope for you. You can remain the court jester or wise up, here's your cue.

It's not about quantity, It is about quality. The same holds true in real life. Seriously, get a grip it would be in your
best interest.

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RE: Baton Rouge's summer of grief - 8/21/2016 1:45:56 PM   
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Please bear with I will get to your question.

I failed in my original post to point out what I saw as the most important aspect of the flood tragic as it is.
I dealt with the same problem in 2008 as did my community, my story of loss or the others is not of importance.
What we shared at the time was loss of property, belongings, cost of rebuilding etc. We came together as people
of the community Black, White and all races to help each other from the beginning to the end to deal with and get
through the crisis in anyway we could.

The same is happening in Baton Rouge, this is the same community where a black man (last month) was shoot my police. There were the protest much the same that happens when this takes place else where that also spark riots, violence , burning business destroying the very community they live in. Often this happens in city's the incident did not take place. This is also where six police officers where shot five killed one is still in the hospital fighting for his life, this was in retaliation for the shooting of the black man. No protest or riots took place although these family's lost love ones just as well.

I would like to share another link that also shows the sharp contract between the two events, ( Baton Rouge )
Now, we have a community that has come together as one in unity ( both black and white ) to deal with the crisis at hand including some of the very ones that lost love ones in the shooting from both sides. If this is possible then I would think the same could be done in instances where shooting take place. Not only that, this is exactly where it needs to begin the community where the events take place. It's at least a starting point from there it can build to other areas that deal with the same issues.

Back to your question, I was taught some valuable lessens as a child at the time I did not understand the why(?)
I was given responsibility's, chores things I could do and learn at the appropriate age(s) including and not limited
to keeping my room clean and Items picked and stored in the proper place, do the same around the house,
washing dishes (that meant doing so correctly or you would have to wash every dish in the house) dry and put them where they belonged. Bear in mind I was one of nine kids, maybe some would now consider to harsh or hard on a child. As I aged the responsibility's and chores grew, My father was a man of few words that did not explain things in detail. Had to read between the lines, he meant that this tasks where meant to be done when they needed to be done and how they were to me done without being asked to go do them.


I'm really not rambling ( although it could be considered that way ) It's just sharing my experience is the best way
I know to answer your question. It was not until I had grown and was on my own that I realized he was teaching
me the basic skills to survive. To have the ability to stand on my own two feet, be responsible for myself and my actions because ultimately it was all up to me and I would be accountable good, bad, right or wrong. This is something I see that is missing in society today and the young people are paying a heavy price, Just look around kids are living at home that should and need to be on their own, parents are still taking care of kids that are grown some rising their grand children.

We simply can not rely on the government to solve or do everything for us, sure they can help, but, don't expect
or rely on it. This has become a problem, because some not only rely, they expect and fill entitled, for the government for far to much, to house, feed, solve any and all problems. Yet not wanting to put the effort to do for themselves and their family's. This is self imposed oppression, It is not helping this people it does not make life any easier for them, it truly holds them back from their potential. Please don't misunderstand, ( when I say people I mean all regardless of colour ) I'm all for helping those in need, as a hand up , just not a hand out.

By giving a hand up, teaching responsibilities, skill sets and the basics needed to stand on their own, with pride and dignity. This is real help that lets people grow and prosper, it starts in the community they live in with people within that can help. They have to want it and do what is necessary to achieve their goals, I truly believe it is not only possible but achievable.


Wow the whole of horatio alger in 7 paragraphs...I would post something but I need to go puke.

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