Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: thank God for BARAK...


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: thank God for BARAK... Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/21/2016 7:16:08 AM   
WickedsDesire


Posts: 9362
Joined: 11/4/2015
Status: offline 		https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014#Polling

They wish to rejoin the mother land - so be it they have spoken leave them be world.

I wonder if Russia and China - recognize the Falklands as being British. Now china has no mandate for malarkey and yet they are up to it aplenty. I will also add that France England and Spain have a problem with regions voting for autonomous control......Scotland they fear it will set a president (look i cant spell that word at all) precedence. We a re country i wish to clear that up and I am all for shifting the border back to where is was in times long ago.

Does trump have the capacity to start scorched earth - I think so. Idiots can rarely admit when they are wrong and half wits even less - But he is not getting into power.

Russia is vast, Siberian traps are probably bigger than America.
Population 150million let me see ah 143 million, less than half of what it had before the fall. A tad over twice the Uks population and less than half of America.

I think all empires fall and I believe China and Russia are the only two nation on earth with the peoples/regions diversity - oh dear that never goes well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons - that surprises me alittle it would appear the France and UK have the potential to evoke scorched earth - probably India and Pakistan too judging by those figures - well they could scorch it a bit - but will be to busy be at each other.

(in reply to bondageerone)
Profile   Post #: 21
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/21/2016 7:27:35 AM   
MrRodgers


Posts: 10542
Joined: 7/30/2005
Status: offline 		I want to know how it is that either candidate is supposed to start WWIII when it hasn't already been started in the last 20 or 30 years. ALL presidents do what they are told to do and trust me...WWIII is not in the cards.

_____________________________

You can be a murderous tyrant and the world will remember you fondly but fuck one horse and you will be a horse fucker for all eternity. Catherine the Great

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
J K Galbraith

(in reply to WickedsDesire)
Profile   Post #: 22
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/21/2016 8:02:16 AM   
DominantWrestler


Posts: 338
Joined: 7/4/2010
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I don't know where you've been, but Trump is less likely to start trouble with Russia than Clinton.

T^T

Exactly I thought Trump is suppose to be BFF with Putin lol.


Trump will give Russia better footing and America worse footing for any possible conflict

(in reply to Greta75)
Profile   Post #: 23
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/21/2016 10:14:29 AM   
MrRodgers


Posts: 10542
Joined: 7/30/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I don't know where you've been, but Trump is less likely to start trouble with Russia than Clinton.

T^T

Exactly I thought Trump is suppose to be BFF with Putin lol.


Trump will give Russia better footing and America worse footing for any possible conflict

Th west (US) doesn't give a shit about eastern Europe except for the any real oil or other valuable natural resources. The strategic metals are gone or at a minimum but there could be undiscovered oil etc. The cold war was about Soviet nukes (missiles) and oil, never about so-called democratic values. That was always the ruse. The US & friends have now proved that democratic nations...do go to war.

Now it's about resources as again, exemplified by China's continued authoritarian profit center that has enabled [her] to gobble them up. Of course possession being 9/10ths of hegemony, when push comes to shove, that diplomatic coup I've written of, comes into play.

Plus, whether we create a Venus on earth or not and that's the 'super' long picture because meanwhile (200 years)...there could be profits and power 'in them hills.'

_____________________________

You can be a murderous tyrant and the world will remember you fondly but fuck one horse and you will be a horse fucker for all eternity. Catherine the Great

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
J K Galbraith

(in reply to DominantWrestler)
Profile   Post #: 24
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 4:47:08 AM   
WhoreMods


Posts: 10691
Joined: 5/6/2016
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
The US & friends have now proved that democratic nations...do go to war.

They did much worse than that during the cold war. All of the bleating about teh eevil jihadist scum in Iran tends to overlook the fact that a democratically elected secular President was deposed by the CIA in the '50s in case he followed through on his threat to nationalise the Iranian oil industry, and the Shah reinstated. Look how well that turned out in the long run.

_____________________________

On the level and looking for a square deal.

(in reply to MrRodgers)
Profile   Post #: 25
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 6:37:05 AM   
Edwird


Posts: 3558
Joined: 5/2/2016
Status: offline
~FR~

I tell ya, I'm somewhat worried about having a female woman as president, when she could be having 'that time of the month' and fidgeting and stuff, with her fingers on the codes. Once every month.

Whereas Trump is certified batshit crazy 24/7, all day, every day, every month, seven days a week, and however many of those are in a month.

It is important that America demonstrates consistency, to show our strength to the world.







< Message edited by Edwird -- 8/22/2016 6:40:03 AM >

(in reply to WhoreMods)
Profile   Post #: 26
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 6:49:48 AM   
klmpong


Posts: 73
Joined: 1/11/2016
Status: offline 		I'll be voting for the bafoon over the proven insanity.

(in reply to Edwird)
Profile   Post #: 27
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 7:08:53 AM   
WhoreMods


Posts: 10691
Joined: 5/6/2016
Status: offline 		I suspect Clinton entered menopause a while back at her age, while the circus peanut acts way more premenstrual than most women would dare to every time he opens his mouth.

_____________________________

On the level and looking for a square deal.

(in reply to Edwird)
Profile   Post #: 28
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 7:11:51 AM   
MrRodgers


Posts: 10542
Joined: 7/30/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
The US & friends have now proved that democratic nations...do go to war.

They did much worse than that during the cold war. All of the bleating about teh eevil jihadist scum in Iran tends to overlook the fact that a democratically elected secular President was deposed by the CIA in the '50s in case he followed through on his threat to nationalise the Iranian oil industry, and the Shah reinstated. Look how well that turned out in the long run.

Yes the CIA and the west did lay the groundwork for much of the distrust held in the east but we didn't go to war, kill 10's of 1000's and produce the gestation of more radicalism yet. Yes, the US/CIA were BP hirelings in that 1952 coup and it was a success only in western eyes particularly in view of having the Shah a ruthless, authoritarian bastard, put in power.

But we didn't bomb them back to the 19th century, disband their govt. and then throw them in prison to torture them for a truth we knew wasn't coming. I held and now hold no special place in my view of Muslim (Persian) Iran who quickly jumped in bed with Hitler and being ignorant of the fact that...they were on his hit list eventually.

Still, we did plant seeds of distrust but didn't 'go to war.'

_____________________________

You can be a murderous tyrant and the world will remember you fondly but fuck one horse and you will be a horse fucker for all eternity. Catherine the Great

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
J K Galbraith

(in reply to WhoreMods)
Profile   Post #: 29
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 7:14:08 AM   
WhoreMods


Posts: 10691
Joined: 5/6/2016
Status: offline 		You miss the basic point here: at what point in post-war history has western intervention in the middle east failed to produce a colossal fuck up?

_____________________________

On the level and looking for a square deal.

(in reply to MrRodgers)
Profile   Post #: 30
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 7:45:09 AM   
thompsonx


Posts: 23322
Joined: 10/1/2006
Status: offline
ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


Yes the CIA and the west did lay the groundwork for much of the distrust held in the east but we didn't go to war, kill 10's of 1000's and produce the gestation of more radicalism yet.


That sounds a lot like somalia.


Yes, the US/CIA were BP hirelings in that 1952 coup and it was a success only in western eyes particularly in view of having the Shah a ruthless, authoritarian bastard, put in power.

But we didn't bomb them back to the 19th century, disband their govt. and then throw them in prison to torture them for a truth we knew wasn't coming.


Somalia, iraq,afghanistan...gitmo


I held and now hold no special place in my view of Muslim (Persian) Iran who quickly jumped in bed with Hitler and being ignorant of the fact that...they were on his hit list eventually.


Your history is on real shakey ground here dude...you might want to check some facts before you get both feet in your mouth at the same time.

Still, we did plant seeds of distrust but didn't 'go to war.'


You must not have got the memo about "desert storm nos 1,2 and counting"

(in reply to MrRodgers)
Profile   Post #: 31
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 11:25:14 AM   
DesideriScuri


Posts: 12225
Joined: 1/18/2012
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice
quote:

ORIGINAL: klmpong
does anyone really believe that it will make any difference who is in the white house?

Hell, yes.

Trump will do worse for the bottom 60% as far as the economy goes...more trickle down tax cuts is about it and higher deficit spending. But as for the MIC and foreign policy...no.


What makes you think that? It's not like he has the power to decree anything, without any checks or balances. You think the GOP is going to automatically side with him and support all his ideas? And, if Hillary gets in, do you think the GOP is just going to let her do whatever she wants?

34 Senate seats up for grabs (24 Republicans). It's going to be a tight race, and looks like it could still end up in a tie.

All seats in the House are up for grabs. According to 270towin, the Democrats are likely to pick up seats, but not enough to control the House (technically, the prediction is from Larry Sabato's 'Crystal Ball').

So, if the Crystal Ball is accurate, Congress will be split, meaning whoever gets in won't have a Congress that just goes along for the ride.

_____________________________

What I support:

  • A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  • Personal Responsibility
  • Help for the truly needy
  • Limited Government
  • Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)

(in reply to MrRodgers)
Profile   Post #: 32
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 11:31:22 AM   
DesideriScuri


Posts: 12225
Joined: 1/18/2012
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
You miss the basic point here: at what point in post-war history has western intervention in the middle east failed to produce a colossal fuck up?


I'm not sure how many people understand this. I'm not even sure if there are half as many that give a shit about it, either. But, the US will likely do some more shit in the M.E., and things will get better for a minute or two, and then it will get worse. Again.

I think this should be the 'teachable moment' regarding the adage of history and repeating.


_____________________________

What I support:

  • A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  • Personal Responsibility
  • Help for the truly needy
  • Limited Government
  • Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)

(in reply to WhoreMods)
Profile   Post #: 33
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 12:24:26 PM   
WhoreMods


Posts: 10691
Joined: 5/6/2016
Status: offline 		You'd have thought so, wouldn't you? Seems to be a bit much to hope for on past form, though.

_____________________________

On the level and looking for a square deal.

(in reply to DesideriScuri)
Profile   Post #: 34
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 2:25:15 PM   
Termyn8or


Posts: 18681
Joined: 11/12/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
The US & friends have now proved that democratic nations...do go to war.

They did much worse than that during the cold war. All of the bleating about teh eevil jihadist scum in Iran tends to overlook the fact that a democratically elected secular President was deposed by the CIA in the '50s in case he followed through on his threat to nationalise the Iranian oil industry, and the Shah reinstated. Look how well that turned out in the long run.

Yes the CIA and the west did lay the groundwork for much of the distrust held in the east but we didn't go to war, kill 10's of 1000's and produce the gestation of more radicalism yet. Yes, the US/CIA were BP hirelings in that 1952 coup and it was a success only in western eyes particularly in view of having the Shah a ruthless, authoritarian bastard, put in power.

But we didn't bomb them back to the 19th century, disband their govt. and then throw them in prison to torture them for a truth we knew wasn't coming. I held and now hold no special place in my view of Muslim (Persian) Iran who quickly jumped in bed with Hitler and being ignorant of the fact that...they were on his hit list eventually.

Still, we did plant seeds of distrust but didn't 'go to war.'


What if Iranians came here, deposed the President and installed a leader more to their liking ?

Not an act of war ?

T^T

(in reply to MrRodgers)
Profile   Post #: 35
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 2:27:06 PM   
WhoreMods


Posts: 10691
Joined: 5/6/2016
Status: offline 		I thought the right has just spent the last eight years arguing that they have?


_____________________________

On the level and looking for a square deal.

(in reply to Termyn8or)
Profile   Post #: 36
RE: thank God for BARAK... - 8/22/2016 7:22:37 PM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwird


~FR~

I tell ya, I'm somewhat worried about having a female woman as president, when she could be having 'that time of the month' and fidgeting and stuff, with her fingers on the codes. Once every month.

Whereas Trump is certified batshit crazy 24/7, all day, every day, every month, seven days a week, and however many of those are in a month.

It is important that America demonstrates consistency, to show our strength to the world.



at 70, she is no longer menstruating. dumbarse.
Not to mention its ignorant sexist fucking crap.

_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to Edwird)
Profile   Post #: 37
Page:   <<   < prev  1 [2]
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: thank God for BARAK... Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.078