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Kirata -> Maybe there's hope... (8/25/2016 3:35:43 PM)


The University of Chicago, one of America’s most prestigious and selective universities, is warning incoming students starting this fall not to expect safe spaces and a trigger-free existence during their four-year journey through academia.

In a letter sent to the class of 2020, Dean of Students John (Jay) Ellison said one of the defining characteristics of the school was its unwavering commitment to freedom of inquiry and expression. Civility and mutual respect are vital to the campus culture, the letter states, but not at the expense of shielding students from unpopular opinions or ideas.

“Our commitment to academic freedom means that we do not support so-called “trigger warnings,” we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial, and we do not condone the creation of intellectual “safe spaces” where individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives at odds with their own,” the letter states.
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A copy of the letter is viewable here.

K.




ManOeuvre -> RE: Maybe there's hope... (8/25/2016 3:49:02 PM)

Wow. Outside of the hard sciences, I very rarely celebrate western academia.

Today I rejoice however.

Peaches can be frozen by various methods, but free speech can really only be had all or nothing.




thompsonx -> RE: Maybe there's hope... (8/25/2016 10:27:41 PM)


ORIGINAL: ManOeuvre

Wow. Outside of the hard sciences, I very rarely celebrate western academia.

Where would you draw the line between "the hard sciences" and that which you do not think should be included?




Termyn8or -> RE: Maybe there's hope... (8/25/2016 11:11:20 PM)

More than that, if the focus is on hard sciences, WTF is with anything having to do with opinion ?

T^T




WhoreMods -> RE: Maybe there's hope... (8/26/2016 4:39:43 AM)

I suppose it depends on whether or not you think evolution is just a theory, and bullshit like Genesis or the Bagavad Vita should get equal time. That's an opinion (and a really fucking stupid opinion at that) that's long had an impact on the hard sciences in the American education system.




Lucylastic -> RE: Maybe there's hope... (8/26/2016 5:25:54 AM)

Cocks Not Glocks: Texas students carry dildos on campus to protest gun law

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/25/cocks-not-glocks-texas-campus-carry-gun-law-protest

Hundreds protested ‘campus carry’ law that permits licensed gun owners aged 21 and older to carry concealed handguns in most places at public colleges

It was a typical scene at the start of the new school year – student groups setting out tables and trying to sign up recruits for sororities, clubs and religious organisations. Until the end of the row, that is, where hundreds of people had gathered to pick up free dildos.

Wednesday’s Cocks Not Glocks protest against Texas’s “campus carry” law was held on the first day of classes at the University of Texas at Austin, which has spearheaded resistance to the new rule from students and faculty members at colleges in the state.

The rally took place along a tree-lined avenue beneath the tower at the heart of the campus from where Charles Whitman embarked on a shooting spree on 1 August 1966.

The new law, passed last year by Texas’s Republican-dominated legislature, came into effect on the 50th anniversary of the massacre. It permits licensed gun owners aged 21 and older to carry concealed handguns in most places on public university campuses, including dorms and classrooms.

We have crazy laws but this is by far the craziest, that you can’t bring a dildo to campus but you can bring your gun
Rosie Zander, history student
Demonstrators gathered to brandish sex toys in the air or strap them to their backpacks. Or other places. “We have crazy laws here but this is by far the craziest, that you can’t bring a dildo on to campus legally but you can bring your gun. We’re just trying to fight absurdity with absurdity,” said Rosie Zander, a 20-year-old history student.

“We wanted something fun that people could really engage in. Because it’s hard to get involved in the political process at our age, people our age don’t tend to vote or get involved, and this is so easy. Strap a dildo on and you’re showing the Texas legislature this is not a decision we wanted.”

Standing near a pile of empty boxes and a decorative small forest of upright phalluses, Zander said that Cocks Not Glocks has distributed more than 5,000 dildos in the past five days, donated by sex shops. A few metres away, someone waved a poster that declared “Cock and Load” near a sign fixed to a lamppost advising passers-by that this is a tobacco-free campus.
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Stanford bans hard alcohol at campus parties

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/23/us/stanford-hard-alcohol-ban/

Stanford's undergraduate students will no longer be allowed to drink hard alcohol at on-campus parties, the university announced Monday.

The university's students can still drink beer and wine at such events, but will no longer be permitted to have hard alcohol that has more than 20% alcohol by volume or 40 proof. The new policy also limits the size of the bottles of hard liquor they're allowed to keep in their dorms or common areas to under 750 milliliters.
"Our focus is on the high risk of the rapid consumption of hard alcohol," said Ralph Castro, director of the Office of Alcohol Policy and Education, in a Stanford news release. "Our intention is not a total prohibition of a substance, but rather a targeted approach that limits high-risk behavior."


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thompsonx -> RE: Maybe there's hope... (8/26/2016 5:53:49 AM)


ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

More than that, if the focus is on hard sciences, WTF is with anything having to do with opinion ?

Many would classify the study of opinion as philosophy.




thompsonx -> RE: Maybe there's hope... (8/26/2016 5:59:06 AM)


ORIGINAL: Kirata

The University of Chicago, one of America’s most prestigious and selective universities, is warning incoming students starting this fall not to expect safe spaces and a trigger-free existence during their four-year journey through academia.

In a letter sent to the class of 2020, Dean of Students John (Jay) Ellison said one of the defining characteristics of the school was its unwavering commitment to freedom of inquiry and expression. Civility and mutual respect are vital to the campus culture, the letter states, but not at the expense of shielding students from unpopular opinions or ideas.

“Our commitment to academic freedom means that we do not support so-called “trigger warnings,” we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial, and we do not condone the creation of intellectual “safe spaces” where individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives at odds with their own,” the letter states.[/color] ~Source

A copy of the letter is viewable here.

A private unversity yes?




servantforuse -> RE: Maybe there's hope... (8/26/2016 7:05:23 AM)

I think I'll stick with my glock.




Lucylastic -> RE: Maybe there's hope... (8/26/2016 7:24:52 AM)

you would have to:)




thompsonx -> RE: Maybe there's hope... (8/26/2016 8:09:30 AM)


]ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I think I'll stick with my glock.


Are you soooooo afraid that you cannot go to school without a gun?




vincentML -> RE: Maybe there's hope... (8/27/2016 11:50:41 AM)

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The University of Chicago, one of America’s most prestigious and selective universities, is warning incoming students starting this fall not to expect safe spaces and a trigger-free existence during their four-year journey through academia.

Maybe a good idea. However, does freedom of speech also include the right not to listen? For example, suppose a professor at the university scheduled a guest lecture by a prominent alt-right person who advocated for Hitler's anti-queer and anti-Jew ideology? Should students in his class not receive a trigger warning? Should all be compelled to attend?

Safe Space creates welcoming physical spaces on campus where LGBTQ students can have a conversation with students, staff and faculty knowing that they have a basic understanding of the challenges these students face in developing their identities. The visibility of the signs on the doors and in the offices of individuals who have participated in the trainings serves to increase the overall visibility of the ally community on campus, creating a welcoming environment for LGBTQ students. The presence of these signs indicates that the University is committed to supporting the LGBTQ community. Finally, the decals also serve to increase the number of LGBTQ students at an institution. Many prospective students look for the presence for a program like Safe Space to help them determine if an institution is welcoming of LGBTQ students.
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Or in the case of rape victims on campus (apparently it does occur)

So when she heard last fall that a student group had organized a debate about campus sexual assault between Jessica Valenti, the founder of feministing.com, and Wendy McElroy, a libertarian, and that Ms. McElroy was likely to criticize the term “rape culture,” Ms. Byron was alarmed. “Bringing in a speaker like that could serve to invalidate people’s experiences,” she told me. It could be “damaging.”

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The safe space, Ms. Byron explained, was intended to give people who might find comments “troubling” or “triggering,” a place to recuperate. The room was equipped with cookies, coloring books, bubbles, Play-Doh, calming music, pillows, blankets and a video of frolicking puppies, as well as students and staff members trained to deal with trauma. Emma Hall, a junior, rape survivor and “sexual assault peer educator” who helped set up the room and worked in it during the debate, estimates that a couple of dozen people used it. At one point she went to the lecture hall — it was packed — but after a while, she had to return to the safe space. “I was feeling bombarded by a lot of viewpoints that really go against my dearly and closely held beliefs,” Ms. Hall said.
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