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RE: Congratulations Ted Kennedy! - 8/31/2016 5:32:31 PM   
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Tin foil hats O' plenty.

Actually I think it works for the Autistic, you know...otherwise smart people, processing too much input.

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RE: Congratulations Ted Kennedy! - 9/1/2016 6:37:07 PM   
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Plus, as usual, look what's happened since 1975.

Assuming you mean what happened in Vietnam, why is that our concern?

Eisenhower to Kennedy: go in for the rubber & oil? Never heard that one. Can you document it?

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RE: Congratulations Ted Kennedy! - 9/1/2016 7:05:04 PM   
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Plus, as usual, look what's happened since 1975.

Assuming you mean what happened in Vietnam, why is that our concern?

Eisenhower to Kennedy: go in for the rubber & oil? Never heard that one. Can you document it?

[IT] has instituted economic reforms, are now doing business with the US. That means the US should have stayed out if Vietnam and right from the French surrender.

As for Eisenhower:

In February 1954, President Eisenhower refused to commit American troops to the Franco-Vietnamese War. In a press conference he stated, "I cannot conceive of a greater tragedy for America than to get heavily involved now in an all-out war in any of those regions."

By April, however, his administration revisited the question of direct intervention in the war. Though he sent no U.S. troops to the region, he authorized military aid to the French. After France surrendered to the Viet Minh, Eisenhower's administration aided anti-communist leader Ngo Dinh Diem in consolidating power in Saigon.

Throughout his second term as president, Eisenhower remained committed to Diem's often-tyrannical regime. This was the policy that Kennedy was given to assume upon taking office. The cover is always communism but the resources were also important.


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RE: Congratulations Ted Kennedy! - 9/2/2016 7:00:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Plus, as usual, look what's happened since 1975.

Assuming you mean what happened in Vietnam, why is that our concern?

Eisenhower to Kennedy: go in for the rubber & oil? Never heard that one. Can you document it?

[IT] has instituted economic reforms, are now doing business with the US. That means the US should have stayed out if Vietnam and right from the French surrender.

As for Eisenhower:

In February 1954, President Eisenhower refused to commit American troops to the Franco-Vietnamese War. In a press conference he stated, "I cannot conceive of a greater tragedy for America than to get heavily involved now in an all-out war in any of those regions."

By April, however, his administration revisited the question of direct intervention in the war. Though he sent no U.S. troops to the region, he authorized military aid to the French. After France surrendered to the Viet Minh, Eisenhower's administration aided anti-communist leader Ngo Dinh Diem in consolidating power in Saigon.

Throughout his second term as president, Eisenhower remained committed to Diem's often-tyrannical regime. This was the policy that Kennedy was given to assume upon taking office. The cover is always communism but the resources were also important.


I agree with the first paragraph. Did I miss the citation for the oil and rubber thingy?

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RE: Congratulations Ted Kennedy! - 9/2/2016 12:22:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Plus, as usual, look what's happened since 1975.

Assuming you mean what happened in Vietnam, why is that our concern?

Eisenhower to Kennedy: go in for the rubber & oil? Never heard that one. Can you document it?

[IT] has instituted economic reforms, are now doing business with the US. That means the US should have stayed out if Vietnam and right from the French surrender.

As for Eisenhower:

In February 1954, President Eisenhower refused to commit American troops to the Franco-Vietnamese War. In a press conference he stated, "I cannot conceive of a greater tragedy for America than to get heavily involved now in an all-out war in any of those regions."

By April, however, his administration revisited the question of direct intervention in the war. Though he sent no U.S. troops to the region, he authorized military aid to the French. After France surrendered to the Viet Minh, Eisenhower's administration aided anti-communist leader Ngo Dinh Diem in consolidating power in Saigon.

Throughout his second term as president, Eisenhower remained committed to Diem's often-tyrannical regime. This was the policy that Kennedy was given to assume upon taking office. The cover is always communism but the resources were also important.


I agree with the first paragraph. Did I miss the citation for the oil and rubber thingy?

Actually, being a little older than I am willing to admit, I heard that and more than once but can't find it at google. The only surprising thing was that Vietnam was never a big oil producer to my knowledge but that Eisenhower was supposed to have emphasized that to JFK but can't 'prove' it..

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RE: Congratulations Ted Kennedy! - 9/2/2016 2:37:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

Plus, as usual, look what's happened since 1975.

Assuming you mean what happened in Vietnam, why is that our concern?

Eisenhower to Kennedy: go in for the rubber & oil? Never heard that one. Can you document it?

[IT] has instituted economic reforms, are now doing business with the US. That means the US should have stayed out if Vietnam and right from the French surrender.

As for Eisenhower:

In February 1954, President Eisenhower refused to commit American troops to the Franco-Vietnamese War. In a press conference he stated, "I cannot conceive of a greater tragedy for America than to get heavily involved now in an all-out war in any of those regions."

By April, however, his administration revisited the question of direct intervention in the war. Though he sent no U.S. troops to the region, he authorized military aid to the French. After France surrendered to the Viet Minh, Eisenhower's administration aided anti-communist leader Ngo Dinh Diem in consolidating power in Saigon.

Throughout his second term as president, Eisenhower remained committed to Diem's often-tyrannical regime. This was the policy that Kennedy was given to assume upon taking office. The cover is always communism but the resources were also important.


I agree with the first paragraph. Did I miss the citation for the oil and rubber thingy?

Actually, being a little older than I am willing to admit, I heard that and more than once but can't find it at google. The only surprising thing was that Vietnam was never a big oil producer to my knowledge but that Eisenhower was supposed to have emphasized that to JFK but can't 'prove' it..

Fair enough, Mr. R. Thanks. :0)

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