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WhoreMods -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/8/2016 10:29:55 AM)

"Friendship with the world causes enmity with God."
There are more relevant verses, perhaps, but there's also much worse lines to take towards innate human perversity.



JeffBC -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/8/2016 11:33:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ilovestarbucks
Let's say a man is working too much and doesn't have time for a relationship. Or he is pursuing a career, or going to college, and doesn't have time for a relationship. Yet, he wants to experience all types of BDSM and fetish play. He is hard pressed to find a woman in the same situation so he has to pay for it. And even though he pays for it, the woman may not want to do his particular fetish.

So you're saying that you've never heard of a female who is looking for casual sex? There's no such thing as a female fuck-buddy? That isn't what I have observed.

What I see is that there is some split among humans in general. Some disconnect sex from emotions and others do not. I haven't observed any large variations between men and women on this although women, being the "prey" in the social equation, obviously have defense mechanisms and are more exhausted with unwanted advances. Also, women are socially punished for this (slut) while men are socially exalted (stud). That's going to drive such behavior underground for women.

Carol (my wife) was ready to go to bed with me on the first date. I was not. Clearly, in that case, the woman required much less emotional connection than the man.



LadyPact -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 6:14:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ocl751

sorry what is a misogynist but if f the man who has the gold makes the rules the man with the gun robs the man with the gold then he does not need the man with the rules
the vanilla world despises wars but has no worry as millions starve to death to have a rich society you first have to create a poor society or poor nations so which is worse
watching millions starve to death or far worse ww3 for humanity to survive the games of war must change make love not war
every man shall have his own wife 1 cor 7-2if doubt that read wives for the benjamites judges chapter 21 which is why prostition in OT times was BIG NO NO
SO SAYING PROSTITION SOLVES RAPES IS FALSE BUT CEERTAINILY CREATES WARS reember VIETNAM ERA MAKE LOVE NOT WAR OR JAMES 4 ;1-6


When was your last psyche eval? It might be time to schedule your next one.



WhoreMods -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 7:01:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: ilovestarbucks
Let's say a man is working too much and doesn't have time for a relationship. Or he is pursuing a career, or going to college, and doesn't have time for a relationship. Yet, he wants to experience all types of BDSM and fetish play. He is hard pressed to find a woman in the same situation so he has to pay for it. And even though he pays for it, the woman may not want to do his particular fetish.

So you're saying that you've never heard of a female who is looking for casual sex? There's no such thing as a female fuck-buddy? That isn't what I have observed.

What I see is that there is some split among humans in general. Some disconnect sex from emotions and others do not. I haven't observed any large variations between men and women on this although women, being the "prey" in the social equation, obviously have defense mechanisms and are more exhausted with unwanted advances. Also, women are socially punished for this (slut) while men are socially exalted (stud). That's going to drive such behavior underground for women.

Carol (my wife) was ready to go to bed with me on the first date. I was not. Clearly, in that case, the woman required much less emotional connection than the man.


He's not read any Erica Jong or Louise Alther, has he?
(Are Fear Of Flying and Kinflicks no longer part of the feminist canon that certain histrionic and obsessive whiners in here insist that all uppity women have to study?)



Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 8:17:58 AM)

He's a child; of course he hasn't read anything. He claims to be 21 years old but I'd guess younger.



Greatlilbabygirl -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 8:42:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: KitsapReign

Exactly the responses I expected.

First, a little about myself - which most of you won't believe because it pretty much flies in the face of what you want to stereotype me as. I not only have an IQ in the top 2%, making me a genius, I have an IQ in the top 2% of the top 2%.

So not stupid.

........... throughout the species past. If we want to have a future for our children, that needs to change as well.




You talk a lot.




crazyml -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 9:21:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: KitsapReign

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ORIGINAL: crazyml




Hmm. Unfortunately I read your profile. I'm not doubting your IQ score, but your profile certainly makes you look stupid.




You DO know that the website tells me who has visited my profile? And you did not. So, since you're a liar, well, no reason to read anything else you had to say.



You DON'T know that there are a number of ways that your profile can be visited without it showing up on your viewer list. You could have worked this out, but you did not. So, since you're unutterably stupid, well, no reason to read anything else you have to say.




LadyPact -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 9:38:49 AM)

Ya know, ML... Come drop by my profile, anytime. I'll happily talk with you, rather than some self-proclaimed genius.

If the guy was really in the 2%, he'd have the job that brings the gold, and the shallow twenty-five year something somethings would be hanging all over him.

I'll retire to bedlam.



crazyml -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 9:53:35 AM)

Same back atcha LP



WhoreMods -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 10:29:14 AM)

It's 2% now? I thought it was supposed to be 0.07 or some other tiny fraction of a hundredth...



UllrsIshtar -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 10:50:30 AM)

I'm surprised that nobody has pointed out yet that a reason for women being less interested in casual sex is because most men are terrible in bed.

They don't have the stamina to last through a long hard fucking. They get too carried away and cum too quickly (which is especially a problem with a first time they fuck any given women because of the new conquest novelty). They lack technique and don't know how to move to hit 'the spot'. They're awkward and clumsy because they're nervous (ladies raise your hand on how much more frequently you've been accidently elbowed in the nose, etc by a 'first time' guy instead of long time lover). They're selfish and don't care about getting the woman off.

Seriously, it generally takes a while to 'break a man in' in bed and get to the really good stuff.

And the chances that if you pick a random one out of the crowd he'll be any good on the first time are really rather slim, out of the ~150 I've slept with, I'd say that only about 10% of them are good on a first time.

For men that's quite different. As long as PIV happens, the chances of him not getting off are almost non-existing, even if it's not the 'best sex ever'.

As such, when women want to get off and don't have a dependable good lover available, it usually pays off for them much more to pull out a vibrator than to attempt to get lucky finding a random stranger who would do the trick on a first lay.

Hell, if I could dependable go to a bar, pick up a guy and be guaranteed he'd get me off, I'd probably be doing it as least a few times a month to put some diversity in my 'diet'.
However, been there, done that, over ten years ago, and the experience did nothing but teach me to think "Hitachi" instead of "one-night-stand" if I'm horny and my husband isn't available...



Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 10:52:31 AM)

I had the thought above but didn't want to hurt anyone's tender feelings [:D]



UllrsIshtar -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 11:25:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

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Why do the women nest? to provide a safe place to raise the children. So the species can procreate.

This immediately creates an exchange system where the male gets sex for bringing home food. The better hunter, the better the chance to survive. Fuck the best hunter and get fed. The nest is safer with the best hunters. If a male doesn't hunt, he's not going to get sex. All males therefore hunt.


Yup, and this is pretty much how stone age people rolled.




Yeah except... a few exceptions aside, hunter-gatherer societies derive the lion share of their calories from gathering, not hunting...

Which means that if you ascribe to the idea of "men hunt, women gather" (which has been shown to be false btw, both genders engaged in both activities, with women hunting primarily eggs, small game, and fished, while men gathered honey, fruits, and hunted bigger game) then it still results in the fact that women put the majority of calories on the table period.

Taking into account that the gender division isn't along men=hunt and women=gather, but that women hunt as well, and often (because of size) more readily available game, the amount of calories contributed to diet by women increases even more (in some estimates being as high as 90%). Women were more successful on a day basis, with them generally bring food back ever single day (both animal and plant) with men's both gather of honey, high reach fruits and nuts, and large game being much more sporadic contributions, sometimes spanning weeks of them contributing nothing at all to the pot (in which cases it was the women's fare that tied everybody over).

The only reason it seems that hunter-gatherers found it acceptable for men to -what comes down to- wasting a bunch of time in pursuit of game and gatherings which didn't have as high an immediate pay off as what the women contributed is because there are certain things to be gained from large game that cannot easily be replaced by small game (fat content, large hides, large stomach/bladder for water storage, large bones for certain tools, etc).
A couple of these kills a year however were more than enough to suffice, and as such it was acceptable for men to spend an inordinate amount of time obtaining them, while the women made sure that there was food on the table every night.

Make no mistake, women historically have always gone out and hunted/gathered their own fair. Men's contribution has always been focused on providing 'luxury' items.



UllrsIshtar -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 11:42:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


I'm 147, and I still know how to google. *grins*



Which puts you below me on the artificial and useless "how fast can one process and assimilate new information scale".

*looks around puzzled*

Do I win the thread now? What's my prize?



UllrsIshtar -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 11:55:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


If the guy was really in the 2%, he'd have the job that brings the gold, and the shallow twenty-five year something somethings would be hanging all over him.




Nonsense. There is no guarantee that a high IQ will guarantee big earnings.

High IQ people tend to be outliers who are found at the extreme ends of the norm, which might mean that they're incredibly rich and successful, or that they're a starving artist/scientist/idealist with not a penny to their name.
In fact, the higher the IQ (and the larger the deviation from the social norm) the more likely the latter is. This is due primarily because in order to be inordinately successful it is usually required that one fits in well with the pack, and is still close enough to it to effectively lead it, which simple isn't the case for most of those who fall extremely outside of the norms intelligence wise.

It's much more probably that somebody with a moderately high IQ (in the 115-130 range) will be extremely financially successful, than that somebody with an extremely high IQ will. They're just too different from the statistical norm to fit in to the 'path to success' because the 'path to success' (and society at large) is primarily built around fitting the 'average man'.

It is, for example, extremely common for those with IQs above ~135-140 to do rather poorly in school. Because generally school isn't designed to accommodate them, and they cannot easily adapt to a system designed for people who do not learn the same way they do. This trend tends to continues on in social and work life.




Numerans -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 12:23:50 PM)

Brilliant as always, though there is some room for expansion that does in no way diminish what you have just said.


A person with a High IQ, high ambition and a willingness to manipulate others or at least blend in will most likely reach the top though they may, if they are not complete sociopaths and still have a strike of the artist, scientist or idealist in them feel very lonely up there and not just because all the little people are so far away.


There is a historical personality who was an acclaimed ruler and wealthy man, generally respected and kind for that time and place but despite all of this chose a life of poverty in service of christ, probably seeing that the ideal he shared with christ was more important to him than all of that which he had.



WickedsDesire -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 12:29:06 PM)

IQ test is an ambiguous concept and some questions have multiple answers - no matter - perhaps the continent ones bug me or biggest island ones. I always thought the most successful ones were extroverts and ENTJ's some of them are intelligent and some so dense that light itself bends around them and when they speak sheer incoherence itself comes out - but such conviction and beleif in words they do not fully comprehend...they fascinate me..as do sophists.

I have no idea how many women I slept with I only sleep with 1-2 per year now a days x 12 years as I have said over the epochs.

I consider myself to be a nymphomaniac, with a brain, that can shatter a women's loin regions and soul and to scatter them to the four corners because I enjoy it - if the mood takes me *they all scream after the 10th orgasm, even the more slutty hardy ones who talk a good narrative.

Because I am patient zero it does not make me easy - quite the opposite and 100% faithful as it would do my opposite counter part. We differentiate from stuffing a hole/hole to be stuffed these are creatures of utter wretch truly dammed.

But exists a disparity in how many women men have slept with and how many men women have slept with; are one or both of the species fibbing - perhaps there are simply more women holes who account for the disparity

I think the creature I married a long time ago, met her at 21 I did, used to ask me perdically how many women I had slept with and my answer was different all the time smiles





OsideGirl -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 12:30:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar



It is, for example, extremely common for those with IQs above ~135-140 to do rather poorly in school. Because generally school isn't designed to accommodate them, and they cannot easily adapt to a system designed for people who do not learn the same way they do. This trend tends to continues on in social and work life.




I'm in the 140 range, my ex-bf had an IQ that made me look like a Kindergartner. Regardless of how intelligent he was, there were places in his life that he functioned poorly. His calendar/schedule was one of those things, groceries, I used to joke that I could rearrange his furniture and he wouldn't notice for at least two weeks. He also had a hard time with relationships. In our relationship he would run in hot and cold waves, I have no doubt that if I had accepted his proposal it would have continued within our marriage. Especially, since he is doing the same with his current wife.



Numerans -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 12:34:55 PM)

Groceries, I can't fucking deal with groceries.

I mean fine, if someone in my family or friends or what ever really has a AWESOME plan to make some food then fine. Lets do it. Ill write it down ( I hate writing things down, its like cheating imo ) but otherwise...
Even if I write it down I might lose the note. And even with the note I might deviate. And without the note, just fuck it. I buy what I think you like and what I like. Unless there is that epic plan.


I never ever understood why people have grocery lists and I never will. The one thing that is good about these mega corporate supermarkets where you have 0 social interaction with the staff is that it is like a park of inspiration. You just walk around and imagine what awesome stuff you will cook.


...Reminds me. Once I stayed so long in a store they thought I was stealing and when they couldn't find anything on me they really thought I was hiding it somewhere x.X lol. Wasn't a supermarket though but I was just trying to find the perfect present for my cousins wedding. I wanted to plan a tree with her but that was too complicated.


Ended up buying a fucking toaster or something like this, god fucking damnit.



needlesandpins -> RE: Why Aren't Women More Like Men In This Respect? (9/9/2016 1:48:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

It's 2% now? I thought it was supposed to be 0.07 or some other tiny fraction of a hundredth...


He does claim to be in the top 2%, and then the top 2% of that. Given that the top 2% only score out at 130-135 in the first place, well as you can imagine, being in the top 2% of that is no great claim as far as genius goes.

It was me using using my own lowest IQ score at 148, in my worst moments, that puts me in the top 0.1%, as a percentile to prove how ridiculous his claim is [:)]

Mind you, the babble that followed also proved the lack of genius level.

Needles



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