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Nnanji -> RE: Voting Straqight Ticket (9/12/2016 11:06:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PetBoyOwner


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I think you misread. The judge blocked a law banning the option to mark a single box to vote a straight ticket. The Republican goal of the law was to make it take significantly more time to vote, which would disproportionately impact black voters because urban areas already tend to be allocated fewer voting resources per capita and have longer lines to begin with.

Oh ya, that's a clever republican trick. We all understand that black people cant take an extra five minutes to vote. Jees...are you listening to yourself?


5 minutes? Try 7 hours: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/no-one-in-america-should-have-to-wait-7-hours-to-vote/264506/

Since Republicans took control of many state houses and gerrymandered themselves into permanent control of state governments in 2010, the average wait time for black voters has become double that of white voters. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence, right?

In CA, the Registrar of voters is an elected County position. I'm assuming in a heavily black district that Registar would be Democrat. I'm not familiar with wherever you are. But, I find it very unlikely that mean republicans are plotting longer wait times for black voters. I'd suspect that is more democrat projection than anything else.




Termyn8or -> RE: Voting Straqight Ticket (9/12/2016 11:09:46 AM)

Too logical for a liberal.

T^T




mnottertail -> RE: Voting Straqight Ticket (9/12/2016 2:40:12 PM)

There are 10 states that allow straight ticket voting, CA isn't one of them. Too logical for nutsuckers.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Voting Straqight Ticket (9/12/2016 3:12:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PetBoyOwner
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
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ORIGINAL: PetBoyOwner
I think you misread. The judge blocked a law banning the option to mark a single box to vote a straight ticket. The Republican goal of the law was to make it take significantly more time to vote, which would disproportionately impact black voters because urban areas already tend to be allocated fewer voting resources per capita and have longer lines to begin with.

Oh ya, that's a clever republican trick. We all understand that black people cant take an extra five minutes to vote. Jees...are you listening to yourself?

5 minutes? Try 7 hours: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/no-one-in-america-should-have-to-wait-7-hours-to-vote/264506/
Since Republicans took control of many state houses and gerrymandered themselves into permanent control of state governments in 2010, the average wait time for black voters has become double that of white voters. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence, right?


How many days of early voting are needed? 7? 14? 30? And, understand that this is in person absentee voting, not mail-in absentee voting. Someone had a 7(+) hour wait to vote on the Sunday before an election. What was that person doing the other 6 days of in-person absentee voting (Monday before hadn't happened yet, so that isn't part of the 8-day early voting period)? There are 8 days of early voting, one election day, and many, many days of mail-in early voting. I couldn't find rules specific to 2012, but the current rules in FLA require you to request a mail-in absentee ballot be mailed to you is by 5pm on the 6th day prior to the election (have to allow time for the dept. to mail it, USPS to deliver it, and have time to fill it out and mail it back; elections supervisor has to have the ballot by 7pm election day), though mail-in absentee ballots can be picked up as late as 7pm on Election Day. Ballots have to be received by 7pm Election Day, but mail-in ballots can be used to vote in-person outside your polling place, so it's good that they can be picked up right up until the polls are "closed" (people in line at the close of polling will still be able to cast their ballot).

Mail in ballots can be requested as soon as the ballots are set (there is a deadline as to when an issue/election can no longer be added to the ballot).

Did scaling back in-person absentee voting from 14 days to 8 days really prevent anyone from voting? Were the people who didn't get to cast their votes until after 7pm really have no other day in which they could have voted early? Do these people not have access to USPS?




PetBoyOwner -> RE: Voting Straqight Ticket (9/13/2016 12:18:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: PetBoyOwner


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: PetBoyOwner

I think you misread. The judge blocked a law banning the option to mark a single box to vote a straight ticket. The Republican goal of the law was to make it take significantly more time to vote, which would disproportionately impact black voters because urban areas already tend to be allocated fewer voting resources per capita and have longer lines to begin with.

Oh ya, that's a clever republican trick. We all understand that black people cant take an extra five minutes to vote. Jees...are you listening to yourself?


5 minutes? Try 7 hours: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/no-one-in-america-should-have-to-wait-7-hours-to-vote/264506/

Since Republicans took control of many state houses and gerrymandered themselves into permanent control of state governments in 2010, the average wait time for black voters has become double that of white voters. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence, right?

In CA, the Registrar of voters is an elected County position. I'm assuming in a heavily black district that Registar would be Democrat. I'm not familiar with wherever you are. But, I find it very unlikely that mean republicans are plotting longer wait times for black voters. I'd suspect that is more democrat projection than anything else.


What does California have to do with anything? The linked article is about Florida, where Republicans have reduced polling resources in urban neighborhoods and cut early voting days. It doesn't take a mathematical genius to figure out what will happen to wait times when you cut both flow capacity and availability.

And if you think Republicans aren't targeting by race, please feel free to explain why the North Carolina GOP commissioned a study explicitly on racial patterns in voting, then restricted or eliminated the 5 methods most disproportionately used by black voters, all while leaving the highest risk source of voter fraud unchanged. Because it seems to me if your goal is to eliminate voter fraud, perhaps you should study voter fraud, not racial patterns, and perhaps you should target methods of voting that lead to fraud, not black voters. But that's just me.




Nnanji -> RE: Voting Straqight Ticket (9/13/2016 3:07:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

There are 10 states that allow straight ticket voting, CA isn't one of them. Too logical for nutsuckers.

Totally missed the point there, but what are we to expect?




Nnanji -> RE: Voting Straqight Ticket (9/13/2016 3:12:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PetBoyOwner


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: PetBoyOwner


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: PetBoyOwner

I think you misread. The judge blocked a law banning the option to mark a single box to vote a straight ticket. The Republican goal of the law was to make it take significantly more time to vote, which would disproportionately impact black voters because urban areas already tend to be allocated fewer voting resources per capita and have longer lines to begin with.

Oh ya, that's a clever republican trick. We all understand that black people cant take an extra five minutes to vote. Jees...are you listening to yourself?


5 minutes? Try 7 hours: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/no-one-in-america-should-have-to-wait-7-hours-to-vote/264506/

Since Republicans took control of many state houses and gerrymandered themselves into permanent control of state governments in 2010, the average wait time for black voters has become double that of white voters. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence, right?

In CA, the Registrar of voters is an elected County position. I'm assuming in a heavily black district that Registar would be Democrat. I'm not familiar with wherever you are. But, I find it very unlikely that mean republicans are plotting longer wait times for black voters. I'd suspect that is more democrat projection than anything else.


What does California have to do with anything? The linked article is about Florida, where Republicans have reduced polling resources in urban neighborhoods and cut early voting days. It doesn't take a mathematical genius to figure out what will happen to wait times when you cut both flow capacity and availability.

And if you think Republicans aren't targeting by race, please feel free to explain why the North Carolina GOP commissioned a study explicitly on racial patterns in voting, then restricted or eliminated the 5 methods most disproportionately used by black voters, all while leaving the highest risk source of voter fraud unchanged. Because it seems to me if your goal is to eliminate voter fraud, perhaps you should study voter fraud, not racial patterns, and perhaps you should target methods of voting that lead to fraud, not black voters. But that's just me.

I understand you're a little confused about things. The Registrar of voters establishes polling places and staffs them. In California that's a locally elected official. The locations, how many locations, or how many people working those locations has nothing to do with state government. I mentioned I didn't know if it was the same in other states. But I proposed a locally elected official in a heavily minority community would most probably be a leftist. I'm sorry you couldn't understand the points I made. Perhaps you can refrain from being an idiot in the future and just ask questions when you clearly are out of your depths.




PetBoyOwner -> RE: Voting Straqight Ticket (9/14/2016 6:49:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

I understand you're a little confused about things. The Registrar of voters establishes polling places and staffs them. In California that's a locally elected official. The locations, how many locations, or how many people working those locations has nothing to do with state government. I mentioned I didn't know if it was the same in other states. But I proposed a locally elected official in a heavily minority community would most probably be a leftist. I'm sorry you couldn't understand the points I made. Perhaps you can refrain from being an idiot in the future and just ask questions when you clearly are out of your depths.


The irony. [sm=biggrin.gif]

So your point is that in California, where a "leftist" is in charge, does not have issues, while Florida and North Carolina, where Republicans are in charge, have problems? That seems to suggest that we should put "leftists" in charge of voting everywhere ...




KrystallineKitty -> RE: Voting Straqight Ticket (9/14/2016 6:29:44 PM)

You would have been a Tory...

No taxation without representation (one of the big issues that caused the revolution, was explicitly this)




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