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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or And the choice of targets taught some of us abnormal people that they don't really want to destroy the US. This is not untrue... bit, is too simplistic relative to their thinking at the time. quote:
There are other targets they could have chosen and did much worse. Name one more symbolic and/or effective relative to the outcomes? There were other targets as well.. pentagon, white house and in the original plans four more quote:
They were after Jews. No. This was designed to hurt the US. You should read up on the history of Al Quedah. It would be a bonus from their outlook... but, not even a secondary consideration. quote:
They only killed 3,000, how many worked there ? 3K was more than they hoped for quote:
They could have run ALL those planes into the pentagon and whitehouse but they didn't. Why ? The objective was to cripple the American financial system. They sought to damage our monetary complex. The White House and pentagon was aimed at crippling our ability to strike back. quote:
They were after international traders (World Trade Center, remember ?, not US trade center) which fuck over many Islamic countries for their oil . How? This actually had little impact on world trade except to stymie it for a week. As a total, it depressed spending for three months. Did not impact oil production or profits except parallel with that depression in overall GDP/WDP. This is an odd thing to believe For clarity on their motivations, there are several good books ( including the 9/11 report) which talk about the 'why?' involved. You may want to read a few as you apparently have many unanswered questions. quote:
Half a fucking trillion dollar military budget and this country has no goddamn defense. EVERY foreign attack has succeeded. Two things.. you are confusing a military budget (which is generally for offensive actions) with a defensive posture... and, the plans of Al Quedah (alone) were for ongoing asymmetric strikes internationally. The invasion of Afghanistan ended that, as they went on the offensive just as their political and monetary capital hit it's peak. They were thwarted from pursuing their goals through that intervention and their subsequent necessary defensive posture. quote:
The US government was either complicit or incompetent, there is no doubt and it could be both. but which do you think it is ? This is an impossible question (rhetorical at its best). At the start of most major conflicts there is an attack. In most of those cases, the defender is caught flat footed and the outcry after the fact is of indignation that the (whichever it is) could be 'so ignorant of the situation'. You are entitled to an opinion.... but, I do note you do not offer suggestions for improvement within the context lf a question asked relative to 'what we might do now' (Do you feel safer... etc.) quote:
The air force should have been all over those planes and after the first one hit the next one should have been hit with enough missile power to blow it out to the fucking ocean. Three things: 1. There was no protocol for the military to open fore on unarmed civilian aircraft 2. There was no defensive posture on the initiation of the actions by the assailants 3. There were (how many??) Minutes between strikes Not exactly possible or probable as no one has thought of this scenario prior to these attacks in regard a national security stance. quote:
If you can get your hands on the prints for those buildings I could show you where they were. Simple fact of life. And, you are an engineer... architect.... demolitions expert... security analyst... and more of an expert than the experts who analyzed the incidents? I appreciate your skepticism. Please, appreciate mine. You have not read the 9/11 reports (obviously) and are talking about this from a position of ignorance. quote:
What's more IT IS REQUIRED. If you put up a really tall building there has to be a viable plan for its destruction at the end of its useful life that won't destroy everything around it. This is not true. Please, quote the ASME, ANSI or any country, city, organization, or municipality code that requires this. I have demo'd buildings... the planning rests until it is required. quote:
Did those towers fall on any other buildings ? Yes. Quite a few. And, then there was ancillary contamination of the surrounding buildings from hazardous materials carried with the debris. quote:
Just how far did the debris go ? I doubt it broke out the windows in the fucking pizza place next door. (OK that is an egsaduration(sp)) The 9/11 report details this.. the buildings surrounding it were demolished and torn down afterward. quote:
A hundred times more people are killed by medical mistakes every year, and that is only what the AMA admits to. Over ten times more people are killed in car wrecks, and most of those are caused by sober drivers. So... 300,000 people are killed in hospitals every year? Anyway- good morning.. and. Please educate yourself beyond these forums to ensure your questions are answered. R/ KJ
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