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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 1:59:05 PM   
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They should bar him and the four dolphin players who took a knee from ever playing professionally again.

Like they tried to do to muhammad ali?

We stand for those who have fallen, who stand on that proverbial wall.

Bullshit. It was a kewel line for demi moore but comming out of a grown man who claims to have been in the military it is just fatuous bullshit.

The Star Spangled Banner was written as a tribute to the men of Fort McHenry who kept the flag flying while the Royal Navy pounded that fort with cannon and rocket fire.

So what?

Yeah, there are problems in this country, but to disrespect the men and women who have died for it is just fucking wrong.

Muhammad ali did it.

Yes, they have the right to protest, but, there are proper times and places for those protests.

Thsat is what the britts said when they got their tea dumped in boston harbore.

Take their pansy asses out of football gear and put them in a uniform that matters and then, put their asses in the hottest, dirtiest, most dangerous duty assignment presently available for as long as it takes for them to learn what sacrifices were made for their fucking rights.


Roflmfao...Tell us about all the hot lz you went to?
If you can get that flag out of your ass try reading "war is a racket" by the most highly decorated man in the history of the amerikan military.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 2:09:43 PM   
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Au contraire he is doing just the opposite, he is exemplifying the nation and everything it stands for.
It is quite clear that you have not the slightest idea what the US stands for.


Bingo

Niether you nor Dizzy is an American and I am a retired service member, you two have no business decideing what I do or do not know about what the US stands for.


It is obvious that you are a product of the American public education system. What else is glaringly obvious, you do not understand what the U.S. stands for, neither now, nor two hundred years ago. Or much of any time line in between.

There is a famous quote that no one seems to know for sure who actually it should be attributed to. It applies to many of the current crop of 'patriots'.

"When fascism comes to American it will come wrapped in a flag, and waving a cross."

That quote so perfectly describes today's rabid patriots and basically, most of the people identifying as Republicans.

Let me see, I say that the backup QB in SF has every right to take the actions he has.
Howerver since I disagree with the leftests here as to both the validity and motives as to his actions, this means that I am a ignorant redneck facist. And you say I am narrow minded?

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 2:10:24 PM   
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How many veterans actually are on the side of these protests?? Many


Put my name on the list of those who support him and the first ammendment.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 2:14:24 PM   
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I disagree with Michael and everyone else who has agreed with his comments.

Kaepernick can in fact be punished by the NFL for his actions. Consequently he is NOT protected by the Constitution.

Neither is the nfl.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 2:21:27 PM   
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Kaepernick had lost his starting position. He is getting paid too much to keep as a backup.

Mr. history major how is it that you are in favor of abridging a contract...Pretty sure that shit is in the constitution.

This is a ploy, cynical ploy to take advantage of the knee-jerk reaction you are talking about to allow him to continue to be a 1%er,


It really burns your ass that a black man is rich and you are dirt poor and would be on general relief if it were not for hillary's husband.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 2:28:09 PM   
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How many veterans actually are on the side of these protests?? Many


Put my name on the list of those who support him and the first ammendment.


Nutsuckers would have you believe that the 2nd amendment is there for protecting 1st amendment rights, While veterans know that is a bunch of goddamn hyperbole, they will as a matter of simplicity buy into the general idea. It aint like he is giving out National Security Secrets to the russkies and calling himself a whistleblower, where the usual dumbasses buy into what was widely known in the first place and ignore that is probably how Ukraine was possible. It aint like he is shitting on the flag, he is just one of the many slices of americans who are getting fucked and pointing it out. Yanno, I think Huntie would agree here, the fact that he has two white parents dont make him less black, hell Obama got one white as a cracker, and aint nobody ever accused him of being white. Their lot in life is different from ours.

Most of you dont get it, but if you allow prayer in school (no veteran I know fought for god, or if they did they shit their pants first time out and found a different talisman) and dont want to, because, being fair and taking the ideal that far, we would have to allow at least as many muslim jihadists in the 6th grade to pray for the doom of america, as all you goddamn nutsuckers want to pray for imbeciles in the government to ruin our america.

So.............I dont and most veterans dont give a shit, he said it out loud and personal, he aint a fuckin coward. Like Trump Nugent, Wolfowitz, W, Cheney, and so on.


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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 2:35:42 PM   
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I see lost opportunity…I see demonstrations that separate people rather than bring them together…I see no problem solved by demonstrations based on hate and disrespect.

Why are you against the actions of the boston tea party?


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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 2:36:55 PM   
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A couple of points.

First, the right to protest is part of the package of rights guaranteed by the US constitution. People fail to understand that while the flag is a symbol, that's pretty much all it is. It symbolises America and mythologising the flag takes away from the fact that it is simply a representation of the country itself. Men didn't die for the fucking flag, they died for America, for the people that make up the nation.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that in many aspects, America has lost its way. It's become an increasingly secular society devoted to the pursuit of the almighty dollar at any cost. Remember, the entire foundation of the Republic - it's entire ethos - is to protect the minority from the majority. That is the quintessential difference between a democracy and a republic and America is currently failing as a republic.

Kaepernik is protesting the failure of the American republic. America is failing its African American citizens. And not to put too fine a point on it, increasingly it's failing its men and boys.

You're outraged by an mixed-race African American protesting the flag, but are you outraged at the laws which put so many African Americans in prison for trivial offenses, while the white motherfuckers who caused the financial crisis and resulted in millions of lost homes and jobs got away scot-free?

Are you outraged at the profiteering of the firearm manufacturers who stoke fears using the NRA so more of you buy guns you don't fucking need? Are you outraged at the 32,500 handgun deaths a year caused by the proliferation of firearms in the populace?

Are you outraged at the corruption of your representatives who do the bidding of big corporations? Are you outraged at trade agreements written by those same corporations which screw over the average American?

Are you outraged at the NFL which makes fucking billions per year but insists that cities have to build stadiums they can't afford? (That's YOUR tax dollars at work, by the way - subsidising a multi-billion dollar corporation which exploits the players, the fans and the cities stupid enough to host its games).

Are you outraged at the fucking NCAA exploiting the living fuck out of college athletes and making billions while the athletes get fucking nothing?

No. You're outraged at a sole African-American making a symbolic protest. Your outrage, dude, is a fucking failure of perspective. You're like a Republican that rages against the evils of Mexicans and single mothers while approving billions of dollars in tax-breaks and other corporate welfare.

There's a lot of issues in America which should stoke your outrage, but this is not fucking one of them.

And second: It's fucking football. It's a sport, a game. It doesn't fucking matter at all.

Again. Some FUCKING perspective would be useful, here.


When you are right I have no problem saying so...good on you.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 2:39:37 PM   
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But he is doing it while being paid by his employer thus insinuating their agreement.


If one of your employees were to have nambla bumper sticker on his car does that insinuate your agreement?


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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 2:56:04 PM   
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This is the US. You have a right to belong to any group of idiots you want. However, when you, and other members of your group of idiots incite violence or commit violence.......you cross the line. Even the most basic of idiots SHOULD get that.

The same laws that protect idiots SHOULD protect anyone that wants to protest......any damned thing they want to protest.

I don't have to like your group of idiots. I don't have to support your group of idiots. I don't have to like a protester. I don't have to like their method of protest. But until the laws of this country change, I will always support a person's legal right to do whatever dumbfuckery they feel they need to do. AS LONG AS they are complying with the laws of the country.

The unfortunate thing is that we have become a country of polarized idiots. We only want to allow the dumbfuckery that aligns with our own. THAT is the dumbfuckery I am going to fight against.


What she said

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 3:05:36 PM   
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But he is doing it while being paid by his employer thus insinuating their agreement.


If one of your employees were to have nambla bumper sticker on his car does that insinuate your agreement?



Heres the fuckin news, because I accept a paycheck for servises rendered, nobody owns me. Sure, dump his contract (they will pay it off) but dont equate the US military to a fucking football team. Uh, if you are fucked by popularity, beat your wife, any number of unAmerican things the guy handing you the paycheck dont stand by you. Likewise, you get your fuckin kneecap tore off, or get old or any number of things, your owner dont stand by you.

He owes those fuckwhitsles what exactly, and then what does he owe himself?

You can goddamn sure tell the difference between a Major and a Sergeant. And there aint really nothing wrong with neither. Officers got fucked up sense of loyalty.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 3:08:57 PM   
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You gotta have skin in the game is how we see it civilian.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 3:09:41 PM   
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Good news for the pro Kaepernick people, two of those murderous, racist cops in Fort Worth were shot today.


It certainly seems like good news to you.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 3:10:54 PM   
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Good news for the pro Kaepernick people, two of those murderous, racist cops in Fort Worth were shot today.



Are you really this fucking stupid?


I am pretty sure that is a rhetorical question

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 3:18:16 PM   
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Wouldn't surprise me at all.
If a couple of Klansmen had gotten shot doing their trademark stuff I wouldn't be upset at all.
I just figuered that anyone who put cops in the same class as Klansmen would feel the same way about them.


Do not presume that anyone thinks like you except other morons.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 3:21:57 PM   
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Well, let's see ... I could make a case for having the right to join the klan. Should someone avail themselves of that right or is it offensive to enough people to warrant the attention of the arbiters of good and evil ©.

It would appear that is precisely what you are doing.





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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 3:23:06 PM   
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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 3:28:31 PM   
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well, huntie, there are guys that have served, and riffed welfare patients that try to trade on it. popeye is back, There are men, and then there are shoeclerks.


Let us not forget the "brown bagging coast guard reservist".

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 3:31:01 PM   
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How many veterans actually are on the side of these protests?? Many


Put my name on the list of those who support him and the first ammendment.


Nutsuckers would have you believe that the 2nd amendment is there for protecting 1st amendment rights, While veterans know that is a bunch of goddamn hyperbole, they will as a matter of simplicity buy into the general idea. It aint like he is giving out National Security Secrets to the russkies and calling himself a whistleblower, where the usual dumbasses buy into what was widely known in the first place and ignore that is probably how Ukraine was possible. It aint like he is shitting on the flag, he is just one of the many slices of americans who are getting fucked and pointing it out. Yanno, I think Huntie would agree here, the fact that he has two white parents dont make him less black, hell Obama got one white as a cracker, and aint nobody ever accused him of being white. Their lot in life is different from ours.

Most of you dont get it, but if you allow prayer in school (no veteran I know fought for god, or if they did they shit their pants first time out and found a different talisman) and dont want to, because, being fair and taking the ideal that far, we would have to allow at least as many muslim jihadists in the 6th grade to pray for the doom of america, as all you goddamn nutsuckers want to pray for imbeciles in the government to ruin our america.

So.............I dont and most veterans dont give a shit, he said it out loud and personal, he aint a fuckin coward. Like Trump Nugent, Wolfowitz, W, Cheney, and so on.

Huntie would agree that a govt mdl .45 will push a half ounce of lead at 802 fps.
That a 30-06 will push a fmj at 2850 fps.
That one click equals 1" at 100 yards.
That if you are humping his duce gear while he is stringing wire that he does not have to worry about anything behind him.
On this he and me are of one mind.

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RE: Arrogant, Entitled, Cry-Baby, and Coward - 9/18/2016 3:44:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Agreed. those are real Americans behind you when that happens.

You come back to the real world, and you really gotta think about what the fuck these clowns are doing.

so, there is a meandering of sorts.

A lotta guys fought for guys that wouldn't fight, and in fact bite your ass if they could.

I dunno how I will ever feel about that, or if I even feel about that anymore, frankly.

I never was the kinda guy, every dudes my brother, every chicks my sister, kinda guy. I always thought I understood American.

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