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Lucylastic -> 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 10:50:19 AM)

This is long, very long, it comes in video form, which is 17 minutes long....This is the transcript.... The link will take you to the video, and all the links needed for fact checks...



Every few generations, we Americans are called upon to defend our country. To defend it not so much from foreign dictators or war or terrorism, but from those here who have no commitment to progress or democracy or representative government—no commitment to anything except their own out-of-control minds and the bottomless pits of their egos.
Our society has thrown up these people before: Joseph McCarthy. George Wallace. Father Coughlin. Jefferson Davis. Aaron Burr. The Know-Nothings. The Blacklisters. The America-Firsters. And we have always thrown them out.
And now our generation has its own: the most dangerous individual ever nominated by a major party for the highest office in this country.
His base wants few details and fewer facts; they just want to burn it down and blame their failures on the collective other. And Donald John Trump is their demonic messiah in Oompa Loompa's clothing.
We must stop him.
It is not pleasant.
It is not fair that we have to do this.
But it is our turn.
The Emperor's New Clothes quality to the Trump campaign has survived these 15 months because, as we react to each outrage, our shock and revulsion have been refracted like light through a prism.
But these outrages are not separate events, not even a pattern.
They are, simply, Donald Trump.
Seen all at once, they—and he—are horrifying.
You must see them "all at once."
Thus—in brief—the story so far:

The Republican party has actually nominated for president a man who attacked the Pope.

Who attacked John McCain for being captured by the North Vietnamese.

Who attacked Gold Star parents Khizr and Ghazala Khan and then juxtaposed their names with the phrase "Radical Islamic Terrorism."

Who attacked Hillary Clinton as a "bigot." Who attacked her as "brainwashed." As "unhinged." As "a monster." As "the devil." As "the most corrupt candidate ever"—showing her face on piles of hundred-dollar bills and the Star of David.

Who attacked her as someone whom "Second Amendment people" should do something about. As someone whose religion "we don't know anything about"—after he explained he had never asked God for forgiveness.

Who attacked President Obama and implied he was a traitor. Who attacked him as having been complicit in the Orlando terrorist attack. Who attacked him for having lower approval ratings than Vladimir Putin, as if Putin's could be trusted.

Who attacked him as being born in another country. Who attacked him as the founder of ISIS, then said it was sarcasm, then said it wasn't sarcasm, then attacked him again as the founder of ISIS.

Who attacked Carly Fiorina for her face; Hillary Clinton for her non-presidential "look"; Heidi Cruz for her appearance; Megyn Kelly for having "blood coming out of her wherever"; Mika Brzezinski as "crazy and very dumb," "neurotic," "not very bright."

Who attacked the women who accused Roger Ailes of harassment.

Who attacked the women who choose abortion—and said there should be punishments.

Who attacked a New York Times reporter because he had a condition that made his arms look atypical; who attacked Judge Gonzalo Curiel because he was of Mexican descent; who attacked Senator Elizabeth Warren over allegedly lying about her heritage to get into Harvard when she never went to Harvard; who attacked Senator Jeff Flake by saying he won't be re-elected this year, when he isn't up for election until 2018.

The Republican Party has actually nominated for president a man who attacked U.S. troops in Iraq and claimed they stole millions; who has attacked Ted Cruz's father and claimed he was connected to the assassination of President Kennedy; attacked Bill Clinton and claimed he was a rapist.

Who attacked Mexicans as rapists, bringing drugs and crime; who attacked African-Americans and claimed they were all living in poverty with no jobs and schools that were no good; who attacked Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, as a "war zone" and attacked the United States of America and claimed it is in a "death spiral."

The Republican Party has actually nominated for president a man who lied about opposing the war in Iraq, when there is a tape of him supporting it. A tape recorded on the first anniversary of 9/11…

Who lied about opposing the war in Iraq during a speech in which he insisted, "I will never lie to you."

Who lied about six million dollars in charitable donations to veterans’ groups from his telethon; who lied about donating his profits from The Apprentice, about charitable donations from The Celebrity Apprentice, and from "Trump the Game" to St. Jude Cancer Center.

Who lied about a plan to debate Bernie Sanders for charity.

Who lied about why he wouldn't release his taxes, because he was being audited and proved himself a liar by saying he would release his taxes if Hillary Clinton released her e-mails;

Who lied about how much money his father gave him or helped him get, coming out of college; who lied about sending his private jet to ferry stranded U.S. servicemen; who lied about talking to the Attorney General of Florida, who declined to investigate Trump University after she was given a campaign donation;

Who lied about his business in Russia; who lied about meeting Russian president Putin; who lied about offering child care to his employees, when it was child care for his hotel guests; who lied about "some people" wanting a moment of silence for the murderer of five Dallas policemen; who lied about seeing thousands of Muslims in New Jersey celebrating 9/11; who lied about 9/11 hijackers sending their wives and girlfriends home to Saudi Arabia.

Who lied about thousands of Syrian refugee terrorists being secretly admitted to this country; who lied about the Chicago police urging him to cancel a rally;

Who lied about the Chicago police saying they could solve crime there with "tough police tactics"; who lied about how there was no drought in California, how he never said Japan should have nuclear weapons, how he opposed the ouster of Egyptian president Mubarak, how the unemployment rate is 42 percent.

Who lied about ISIS making millions a week selling Libyan oil; who lied about dozens of secret terrorist cases in this country; who lied that a protester who tried to rush onto his stage had "ties to ISIS"; who lied last May and again last week about refugees entering this country carrying cell phones with "ISIS flags on them" and phone plans pre-paid by ISIS!
Can you hear me now?

The Republican Party has actually nominated for president a man who congratulated himself in two tweets and a press release for predicting terrorist attacks like Orlando, while bodies still lay in the Pulse nightclub…
Who congratulated himself after the killing of Dwyane Wade's cousin.
Who congratulated himself on predicting Brexit, even though three weeks earlier he had never heard of Brexit.
Who congratulated himself on Republican Convention TV ratings, even though those for his closing speech were lower than for John McCain's.
Who congratulated himself by disseminating a video showing how much of that speech's total running time was taken up…by applause.
Who congratulated himself on having "the world's greatest memory," then three weeks later testified in a deposition he had no memory of saying that.

The Republican Party has actually nominated for president a man who has proposed that Russia or China should enact a Watergate-like hacking of Hillary Clinton's e-mails;

Who has proposed banning Muslims from entering the country, then said it was only a suggestion, then proposed it again; whose running mate has proposed banning members of other religions; who has proposed open racial profiling; who has proposed banning people from "terror nations," saying, "Look it up, they have a list"; who has proposed "ideological certification" for immigrants; who has proposed worse than waterboarding while praising how Saddam Hussein, Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong-un handled protest and terrorism; who has proposed that American civilians be tried by military commissions at Gitmo; who has proposed killing the families of terrorists or suspected terrorists.

A man who has proposed teaching mandatory patriotism in schools; proposed that his supporters appoint themselves as election-day voting monitors; proposed making American protection of fellow NATO members C-O-D; whose campaign proposed purging the government of all Obama appointees; proposed avoiding government debt by printing more money; proposed reducing national debt by paying less than we agreed to; proposed forestalling new financial regulations by executive order—and then in the same speech proposed eliminating…some executive orders.

A man who proposed a wall along the Mexican border to keep out undocumented immigrants; proposed mass deportation of undocumented immigrants; proposed a smaller wall and fewer deportations during a taped television interview that played at the same moment he was giving a speech in Phoenix insisting on a larger wall and more deportations.

A man who has proposed immediately expelling at least two to three million undocumented immigrants, even though this would be like trying to evacuate the city of Chicago in one day; proposed immediately expelling any others not convicted—but merely accused—of a crime.

A man who has proposed to enact all this by executive action, bypassing Congress, even though he employed undocumented immigrants in the building of Trump Tower; even though those immigrants say he not only knew of them but hired them personally; even though his own modeling agency and television shows enabled and employed undocumented immigrants; even though his own wife may have worked here without proper documentation; even though his own grandfather was reportedly not merely a fraudulent emigrant to this country but was also denied re-entry to Germany because he was a draft-dodger.


The Republican Party has actually nominated for president a man who has claimed he understood the sacrifice of losing a child in war because he had spent money to hire employees; who has claimed he understood prejudice against African-Americans because the system is also rigged against him; who claimed the election will be rigged against him; claimed the opinion polls are rigged against him, then praised one of the exact same polls when it favored him; claimed he would be leading those rigged polls by 20 points but for the rigged media; claimed Democrats are voting ten times each; claimed that his crowd in Colorado Springs would've been larger, but the fire marshal was a Democrat; claimed that his speech in Washington would have drawn as many as Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream" speech, but "nobody would let them in."

A man who has claimed he was his own best foreign-policy adviser; claimed that Putin will not go into Ukraine when he already invaded Ukraine in 2014; claimed the U.S. is paying rent for a military base in Saudi Arabia when the last one there closed in 2003; claimed that to avoid hacking, the military should stop communicating "on wires" and return to using messengers.

A man who has claimed that any candidate using a teleprompter should be ineligible, and then himself began using a teleprompter; claimed that he doesn't use notes for speeches during a speech he gave primarily from notes; claimed he will fix the problems of African-Americans, then days later suggested that an African-American athlete protesting police shootings should leave this country.
The Republican Party has actually nominated for president a man who was revealed to have asked his foreign-policy advisers three times in one hour why this country can't use nuclear weapons if we have nuclear weapons—after having asked a television interviewer the same question; who was revealed to have not known what the "nuclear triad" was.
A man who was revealed to have been the political beneficiary of fake Internet accounts underwritten by the Kremlin; revealed to have improperly sought campaign contributions from foreign nationals, including officials of foreign governments.

A man who was revealed to have erased all his e-mails, including those sought in a lawsuit, for five years; revealed to have plagiarized 20 pages in his Trump Institute handbook; revealed to have employed the purported author of his wife's Convention speech, which plagiarized part of a speech written for Michelle Obama by Hillary Clinton's former speechwriter; revealed to have said on his 2008 radio show that Hillary Clinton would "make a good president."

A man who was revealed to have admitted using the pseudonyms "John Barron" and "John Miller" while pretending to be his own press spokesman and boasting of his sexual conquests in the 1990s; revealed to have used the pseudonym "John Baron" while his company threatened its undocumented workers; revealed to have telephoned one television network to alert it to something positive being said about him on another television network.

A man revealed to have millions in outstanding loans to the Bank of China; revealed to have tried to make investment deals with Muammar Gaddafi; revealed to have once kept a book of Hitler's speeches in a cabinet near his bed.

The Republican Party has actually nominated for president a man who has allied himself with his campaign adviser and delegate, who said Hillary Clinton should be shot by firing squad for treason; who has allied himself with another campaign adviser who mused about waterboarding Hillary Clinton; who has allied himself with an African-American pastor who disseminated an image of Hillary Clinton in blackface; who has allied himself with his own son, who follows a series of white-supremacist Twitter accounts…

A man who has allied himself with at least seven campaign staffers who have disseminated racist and/or violent messages on social media; who has allied himself with a state campaign co-chairman who tweeted, "Lynch Loretta Lynch"; who has allied himself with an Illinois Trump delegate who is a white supremacist; a California Trump delegate who is a white-nationalist leader; a former personal butler who wrote on Facebook that President Obama should be "hung for treason."

A man who has allied himself with three different campaign chiefs: the first who manhandled a woman reporter, then lied about it; the second who was listed to receive $12 million from a pro-Russia political party in Ukraine; the third who has been accused under oath of anti-Semitic comments and domestic violence.
A man who has allied himself with a foreign-policy adviser accused under oath of anti-Semitic comments; with a New York State co-chair who suggested Khizr Khan supports ISIS and is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood; with a close adviser who says a Clinton aide could be a "Saudi spy" or "terrorist agent."
A man who has allied himself with a former campaign state chairman accused of drawing a gun on another campaign staffer; with a conspiracy-theorist radio host who claims the Newtown school shootings were a hoax; with a political operative so corrupt he was once fired—by Republicans—for falsifying evidence…against Hillary Clinton.

The Republican Party has actually nominated for president a man who has offered to pay the legal fees of any supporter who becomes physically violent against a heckler; who encouraged crowd members to harass and threaten a reporter, whom he called out by name and who then needed Secret Service protection; who accepted a military medal from an audience member and said, "I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier"; who conducted a news conference to introduce his running mate, only to spend the first 25 minutes talking only about himself; whose prominent Latino surrogate warned Mexican immigration would put "taco trucks on every corner"—four months after the nominee commemorated Cinco de Mayo by tweeting a photo of himself eating from a taco bowl.

The Republican Party has actually nominated for president a man who tweeted thanks to singer Billy Joel for dedicating a song to him, never realizing Joel was, by doing so, mocking him; who gave a trade speech in Monessen, Pennsylvania, standing in front of a wall made out of bales of compressed garbage; who bragged during a presidential debate about the size of his genitalia; who gave a television interview while seated in front of a photograph of himself wearing the same suit, shirt, and tie; who appeared, in a joint news conference with the president of Mexico, with two bobby pins visible, holding his hairdo in place.
The Republican Party has actually nominated for president an irresponsible, unrealistic, naive, petulant, childish, vindictive, prejudiced, bigoted, racist, Islamophobic, anti-Semitic, misogynistic, fascistic, authoritarian, insensitive, erratic, disturbed, irrational, inhuman individual named Donald John Trump.
This…is madness.
Any questions?


http://www.gq.com/story/176-reasons-donald-trump-shouldnt-be-president-olbermann







Awareness -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 11:18:50 AM)

All very salutary... except it doesn't change the fact that Hillary is losing.

The Democratic Party needs Bernie if they want to win. He is literally their only hope.




MrRodgers -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 11:33:44 AM)

No questions, just that the repub had stooped to new low by nominating GWB and the country also by 'electing' (?) him twice. As I've written, Trump does not 'tell-it-like-it-is' even close to what his followers 'tell it'...across the dinner table.

Now, with this man...have outdone themselves and there is no way this man will in fact 'be' president if the country stoops to an even new low and he is elected. That's because if, IF he has a problem with the repub establishment telling him that his 'establishment' re-neocons advisors that he had better appoint, will 'run the country,' then he will...have to go !!

Still, I predict Trump will get less electoral votes than Romney. Hillary IS establishment the vast majority of which don't give a flying fuck about her emails, Benghazi or her health or anything else. HRC is the 'neolib' that has already said she will bow to the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) as necessary.




Lucylastic -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 11:41:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

All very salutary... except it doesn't change the fact that Hillary is losing.

The Democratic Party needs Bernie if they want to win. He is literally their only hope.

Ok Im interested...(damn you), in what way would bernie help and how. Im not disagreeing, Im curious as to what he could or would do that would stop the failure. Are you thinking stumping, being offered a cabinet position ?
I noticed somewhere in the news that Bernie is out with Warren In Ohio, and that his group is working on TPP obstruction, as well as standing up against the N. Dakota pipeline. How do you see him making a difference to hillary getting voted in.
I would prefer to see Bernie as Prez, Even Biden would be better. But I do think Trump might win. right now at least.




MrRodgers -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 11:45:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

All very salutary... except it doesn't change the fact that Hillary is losing.

The Democratic Party needs Bernie if they want to win. He is literally their only hope.

The best polls I've been following and since Obama's first race...is 270towin.com They have been extremely accurate.

Electoral polls as of yesterday:

Clinton 246, Trump 126 with 166 up for grabs,

That mean HRC needs 24 more of them while Trump needs 104 more of them.

HRC is NOT losing.

HERE

Yes, these include those that favor each respective candidate without a clear declaration and...must win those.





sloguy02246 -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 11:50:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

All very salutary... except it doesn't change the fact that Hillary is losing.

The Democratic Party needs Bernie if they want to win. He is literally their only hope.

The best polls I've been following and since Obama's first race...is 270towin.com They have been extremely accurate.

Electoral polls as of yesterday:

Clinton 246, Trump 126 with 166 up for grabs,

That mean HRC needs 24 more of them while Trump needs 104 more of them.

HRC is NOT losing.

HERE




I prefer to go with Nate Silver at fivethirtyeight.com.
He was spot-on for the 2012 election.




Lucylastic -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 11:59:07 AM)

I dont believe any of the pols this time around.
its too crazy.
Nate is good...but even he isnt happy this year.
I do keep an eye over on RCP but the dailies are really ridiculous, and it can change on a dime(obviously)
Im waiting for the debate bounce to be over...but Im not discounting surprises or clusterfucks from either candidate. Or world wide.
Wikileaks and other hackers are waiting for the last minute.
I will not believe pols this year....

I wont believe anything until january 2017 lol





ThatDizzyChick -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 12:25:25 PM)

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All very salutary... except it doesn't change the fact that Hillary is losing.

As hard as it is to believe given her opponent, she seems to be doing just that
quote:

The Democratic Party needs Bernie if they want to win. He is literally their only hope.

I agree, unfortunately they blew their chance and went with "making history".




tj444 -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 12:26:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This is long, very long, it comes in video form, which is 17 minutes long....This is the transcript.... The link will take you to the video, and all the links needed for fact checks...



well,... those are just the reasons/things we have become aware of.. what about the slew of unknown reasons? (which unfortunately will become apparent over time and likely after its too damn late.. )




sloguy02246 -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 12:50:46 PM)

They could only come up with 176 reasons?

They must have done this on a coffee break.




sloguy02246 -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 1:03:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I dont believe any of the pols this time around.
its too crazy.
Nate is good...but even he isnt happy this year.


What I like about Nate's site is that it calculates probabilities based on polls, voting history, and other (e.g., economic) factors - not just poll numbers.




Lucylastic -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 1:04:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This is long, very long, it comes in video form, which is 17 minutes long....This is the transcript.... The link will take you to the video, and all the links needed for fact checks...



well,... those are just the reasons/things we have become aware of.. what about the slew of unknown reasons? (which unfortunately will become apparent over time and likely after its too damn late.. )


Well we know that in the case of trump U, that wont be decided until its too late
The issue regarding Pam Bondi should be investigated properly, but it wont, until its too late.
His Health records are his latest reality show venture...fell flat as a fart and was only more questions than answers
His Taxes wont be shown.... until its too late.
His Business dealings with Russia and his tongue licking on Russian TV wont be investigated until its too late
(can I get up to 176?)
Wanting to put his business into a blind trust and have his kids run it, isnt going to happen, but again, it will be too late.
The NYs AG is looking to investigate the Trump foundation on spending other peoples money. But Megyn Kelly thinks that should wait until after the election....


fun times we live in




MrRodgers -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/15/2016 2:10:31 PM)

If Trump can somehow still pull this thing off which for me personally, is still highly doubtful, I'll take my plans and go to Home Depot.

I'll build me a giant treehouse, on/in the highest tree in the forest (desert really) fully stocked with about 100 cases of Dr. Pepper, a bottled-water, ice maker (long extension cord) a ton of cheese nachos and pizza...and watch the troglodytes...go after each other.

As long as Buffet can provide sufficient security for NVEnergy...I'll be alright. (I'll need my ice maker but hey, I can turn my A/C off too)




tj444 -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/16/2016 9:48:34 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

If Trump can somehow still pull this thing off which for me personally, is still highly doubtful, I'll take my plans and go to Home Depot.

I'll build me a giant treehouse, on/in the highest tree in the forest (desert really) fully stocked with about 100 cases of Dr. Pepper, a bottled-water, ice maker (long extension cord) a ton of cheese nachos and pizza...and watch the troglodytes...go after each other.

As long as Buffet can provide sufficient security for NVEnergy...I'll be alright. (I'll need my ice maker but hey, I can turn my A/C off too)


You realize that the troglodytes have chain saws, dont ya??? they will have that tree cut down and yer beautiful treehouse on the ground in no time.. Just sayin'.. [:D]




Awareness -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/16/2016 12:22:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

All very salutary... except it doesn't change the fact that Hillary is losing.

As hard as it is to believe given her opponent, she seems to be doing just that
quote:

The Democratic Party needs Bernie if they want to win. He is literally their only hope.

I agree, unfortunately they blew their chance and went with "making history".
If she stepped down, Bernie would romp it home.

However, she doesn't give a damn about anyone but herself - so it's "me as President or no-one".




MrRodgers -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/17/2016 1:19:53 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

If Trump can somehow still pull this thing off which for me personally, is still highly doubtful, I'll take my plans and go to Home Depot.

I'll build me a giant treehouse, on/in the highest tree in the forest (desert really) fully stocked with about 100 cases of Dr. Pepper, a bottled-water, ice maker (long extension cord) a ton of cheese nachos and pizza...and watch the troglodytes...go after each other.

As long as Buffet can provide sufficient security for NVEnergy...I'll be alright. (I'll need my ice maker but hey, I can turn my A/C off too)


You realize that the troglodytes have chain saws, dont ya??? they will have that tree cut down and yer beautiful treehouse on the ground in no time.. Just sayin'.. [:D]

I went with 'door' #1...a prehistoric cave dweller.




epiphiny43 -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/17/2016 3:19:20 AM)

quote:

. . .. irresponsible, unrealistic, naive, petulant, childish, vindictive, prejudiced, bigoted, racist, Islamophobic, anti-Semitic, misogynistic, fascistic, authoritarian, insensitive, erratic, disturbed, irrational, inhuman . .

I think someone left off, "narcissist". The self-congratulatory fat toad look on his face every time he brags on something he actually didn't do probably will enter the national mind as a negative meme.
See what happens when a whole country actually watches 'reality TV'? It's all Your fault! 300 channels, and Trump got watched!




bondageerone -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/17/2016 3:32:52 AM)

Lucy ... seriously is this how you live, do you not have a life outside c/s.
I almost feel sorry for you. almost.
your post is the height of stupidity. so much b/s.




Lucylastic -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/17/2016 10:38:28 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bondageerone

Lucy ... seriously is this how you live, do you not have a life outside c/s.
I almost feel sorry for you. almost.
your post is the height of stupidity. so much b/s.


Is this how i live my life...no. Im 54, and how I live my life is hardly your business.in or out of CS
Dont feel sorry for me, lol what do you have to be sorry for.
My post is the height of stupidity?
Why would that be?
Do you have one tiny scintilla of evidence to say its bs? just a single idea, or do you just wanna make the statement and remain ignorant? If so its probably better not to claim it in arrogance

And for someone who posts such mind bending gems as
Trump and Fallon both have the same idiotic stupid way of delivering crap.
or
Is there a god
or
Or Grow up America ANOTHER REASON TO HAVE GUNS. now a 14 year old girl , for fucks sake.....

the irony is on you.
happy days




Termyn8or -> RE: 176 reasons Trump should NOT be President (9/17/2016 11:27:05 AM)

FR

I read the first couple ten of them and they are not proof at all so I am not wasting my time on the rest.

T^T




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