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RE: Questions about the recent bombings - 9/20/2016 1:07:43 PM

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I am convinced that there would be huge numbers of perfectly safe people denied. They would always prefer to err on the side of disqualification.
It would be what was best for their practice.

Is that because you believe that all pro gun shrinks are liars?
Is that because you think the pannel of shrinks would be made up of anti gun phreques?
Or is it because you are afraid you would be found to be a paranoid,dilusional moron with a strong desire to fulfill a john wayne fantasy?

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RE: Questions about the recent bombings - 9/20/2016 2:27:44 PM

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Disqualifing a person who is mentally ill is one thing.
Rquiring a pshyc eval in order to get a gun when the person evaluating them knows he can stop a miliion people who are no threat and have no problems, but if one dangerous person gets past him he is ruined.
Nobody would pass the evaluation.
As it is the left fights having doctors put the information about known dangerous people entered into the background check system.
The provision is already in the law, it just isn't enforced.

Exactly!

As for the 14 year old that grabs a gun and kills someone, I am all for laws that makes a parent criminally responsible if he/she stores a gun in such a manner that a kid of any age can get it, load it, and use it to kill someone.

If a person can be charged with capital murder for driving the car used to get away from an armed robbery in which a person is murdered in the commission of the crime, I feel the same should apply to a parent who stores a gun in such a manner that a kid can use it to commit a crime.

This is going to make me the target of a lot of crap, but seriously, civil liability isnt working. Kid gets dad's gun, shots a student/s and then is sued.

Fine, after being served, he puts all his property in someone else's name, gets a shit ton settlement against him, declares bankruptcy, and walks away not paying a dime.

Court settlements are not exempt from a bankruptcy.

Might be different if John or Jane's parents are arrested and charged equally or as accomplices (which in capital murder carries the same penalty) to capital murder.

It is also a reason I support 'smart' gun research and implementation. The technology is out there, but a lot of people are against it.

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RE: Questions about the recent bombings - 9/20/2016 3:42:35 PM

BamaD

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

Disqualifing a person who is mentally ill is one thing.
Rquiring a pshyc eval in order to get a gun when the person evaluating them knows he can stop a miliion people who are no threat and have no problems, but if one dangerous person gets past him he is ruined.
Nobody would pass the evaluation.
As it is the left fights having doctors put the information about known dangerous people entered into the background check system.
The provision is already in the law, it just isn't enforced.

Exactly!

As for the 14 year old that grabs a gun and kills someone, I am all for laws that makes a parent criminally responsible if he/she stores a gun in such a manner that a kid of any age can get it, load it, and use it to kill someone.

If a person can be charged with capital murder for driving the car used to get away from an armed robbery in which a person is murdered in the commission of the crime, I feel the same should apply to a parent who stores a gun in such a manner that a kid can use it to commit a crime.

This is going to make me the target of a lot of crap, but seriously, civil liability isnt working. Kid gets dad's gun, shots a student/s and then is sued.

Fine, after being served, he puts all his property in someone else's name, gets a shit ton settlement against him, declares bankruptcy, and walks away not paying a dime.

Court settlements are not exempt from a bankruptcy.

Might be different if John or Jane's parents are arrested and charged equally or as accomplices (which in capital murder carries the same penalty) to capital murder.

It is also a reason I support 'smart' gun research and implementation. The technology is out there, but a lot of people are against it.

I have no problem with "smart guns". I have a problem with laws such as NJ that say as soon as one goes on the market all other are prohibited.
If they can function at a reasonable price they don't have to be shoved down our throats.

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RE: Questions about the recent bombings - 9/20/2016 4:29:15 PM

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I have no problem with "smart guns". I have a problem with laws such as NJ that say as soon as one goes on the market all other are prohibited.
If they can function at a reasonable price they don't have to be shoved down our throats.

I agree

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