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Greta75 -> Affirmative Action for President (9/20/2016 9:35:05 PM)
My country has just done it! Implemented new rules, where for every 5 elections, IF a minority wasn't voted in, then the following election will only allow minority candidates to be the nominee. Which gives people no choice BUT a minority candidate to be voted in. While our President does not have the same responsibilities as the US President and doesn't bother with running the country at all. But he is the highest paid political figure. At 3.1mil per annum. And his job is to be like an Ambassador and attend many events and do PR with world leaders. But I was just thinking if a minority became President on such a year, where the minority-only rule kicks in. Where is the genuine glory in that? People pick you because they were forced to have no choice. And I don't even understand how they feel they needed this. Our most beloved President was a minority. An Indian. Till date, he is probably the best President we ever had. I can think of quite a few Indian Ministers if they bother to run for President, they would win hands down without a doubt! Minorities do not need this! Our current President is Chinese, but he is the best of the worst and we hate him! And for the last election, no minority candidate contested! I was just thinking, Obama's win is spectacular and worthy because, he ran against majority races and the people picked him. Which is great! But if he had won under affirmative action, to me, that's just a step back wards and preventing things to move forward in terms of race relations.

Real0ne -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/20/2016 11:17:05 PM)
"Obama's win is spectacular and worthy" then you know very little about the reality of politics in this country. Proven voting fraud! Government programmer testifies voting machines are rigged. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YKpvTBmdCI CONFIRMED by Experts! Voting Machines in Maryland, Illinois Rigged to Support Democrats Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/confirmed-experts-voting-machines-maryland-illinois-rigged-support-democrats/#ixzz4KrsqsyOt "I can insert it, and then it resets the card, and now I'm able to vote again," said Brian Varner, a principle researcher at Symantec, demonstrating the device. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rigged-presidential-elections-hackers-demonstrate-voting-threat-old-machines/ and does anyone sound the alarm? Sure after IRREPARABLE damage is done.

Greta75 -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/20/2016 11:19:39 PM)
Are you seriously saying Obama win is a voting fraud? Don't forget, they pick him over Hillary as well, to run against Republican. He was a dark horse big time. With lack of experience, and youth at that time. But he got the minorities support, and all the left support and the millennials. And even the centrist people. Only hardcore Reps dislike him. I think his win was pretty fairly indicative of the population preference. McCain and Mittens were both just, too traditionally GOP types of people. They were not good choices to run against him. And even in this election, I bet if Ted/Rubio or Jeb was running against Hillary. All of them would be obliterated by now. They needed a wild card like Trump.

bondageerone -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/21/2016 2:56:24 AM)
greta I have said it before it is a shame Obama is leaving , Trump for sure will create havoc, so for now Clinton is probably the best for them. terri, in the u.k. xx

Termyn8or -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/21/2016 4:45:44 AM)
"so for now Clinton is probably the best for them. " So now you're doing it too. So you know what's best for us ? Well come over here and ive here a while, get the fucking right to vote here and vote. you just put yourself in the category of Australians and others who get filtered news but no life experience here whatsoever who think they know better, 'what's best for us'. Fuck you condescending assholes. Mind you own goddamn business. How about I tell YOU who to vote for ? T^T

DesideriScuri -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/21/2016 6:33:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 My country has just done it! Implemented new rules, where for every 5 elections, IF a minority wasn't voted in, then the following election will only allow minority candidates to be the nominee. Which gives people no choice BUT a minority candidate to be voted in. So, it doesn't matter who the best candidate is, necessarily. Once every 5 elections, it could be simply about race. I hope you see that affirmative action is racism, no matter how you package it.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/21/2016 6:48:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 My country has just done it! Implemented new rules, where for every 5 elections, IF a minority wasn't voted in, then the following election will only allow minority candidates to be the nominee. Which gives people no choice BUT a minority candidate to be voted in. So, it doesn't matter who the best candidate is, necessarily. Once every 5 elections, it could be simply about race. I hope you see that affirmative action is racism, no matter how you package it. Come on, DS. You know that when a program is designed for minorities, then...by definition...it is not racist.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/21/2016 8:48:17 AM)
Affirmative action I find racist - I am not sure what they have in the UK ( I think they have some for some jobs(what about our front line army?)). USA still have affirmative action and its scope is? I believe in fairness and equality but not at the expense of sensible maths

tamaka -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/21/2016 3:23:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 My country has just done it! Implemented new rules, where for every 5 elections, IF a minority wasn't voted in, then the following election will only allow minority candidates to be the nominee. Which gives people no choice BUT a minority candidate to be voted in. While our President does not have the same responsibilities as the US President and doesn't bother with running the country at all. But he is the highest paid political figure. At 3.1mil per annum. And his job is to be like an Ambassador and attend many events and do PR with world leaders. But I was just thinking if a minority became President on such a year, where the minority-only rule kicks in. Where is the genuine glory in that? People pick you because they were forced to have no choice. And I don't even understand how they feel they needed this. Our most beloved President was a minority. An Indian. Till date, he is probably the best President we ever had. I can think of quite a few Indian Ministers if they bother to run for President, they would win hands down without a doubt! Minorities do not need this! Our current President is Chinese, but he is the best of the worst and we hate him! And for the last election, no minority candidate contested! I was just thinking, Obama's win is spectacular and worthy because, he ran against majority races and the people picked him. Which is great! But if he had won under affirmative action, to me, that's just a step back wards and preventing things to move forward in terms of race relations. Thanks... You just helped me remember why, despite all the bs, I'd still rather live in the US than anywhere else.

thompsonx -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/22/2016 4:56:45 AM)
ORIGINAL: Greta75 My country has just done it! Idaho is a state not a country dumbass, Implemented new rules, where for every 5 elections, IF a minority wasn't voted in, then the following election will only allow minority candidates to be the nominee. Which gives people no choice BUT a minority candidate to be voted in. What constitutes a minority in the third world shithole called singapore? While our President does not have the same responsibilities as the US President and doesn't bother with running the country at all. I have shown, on more than one occasion, that you have not the least clue what the president of that third world shithole called singaqpore does. But he is the highest paid political figure. At 3.1mil per annum. Which is possible because of the 40%+ tax rate in that thirde world shithole. And his job is to be like an Ambassador and attend many events and do PR with world leaders. He appoints the prime minister dumbass, who runs that third world shithole called singapore. But I was just thinking It has been shown many times that you do not think. if a minority became President on such a year, where the minority-only rule kicks in. Where is the genuine glory in that? What does your glory hole have to do with anything? People pick you because they were forced to have no choice. As has been pointed out many times there is no choice in that third world shithole called singapore.

Musicmystery -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/24/2016 12:04:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 My country has just done it! Implemented new rules, where for every 5 elections, IF a minority wasn't voted in, then the following election will only allow minority candidates to be the nominee. Which gives people no choice BUT a minority candidate to be voted in. So, it doesn't matter who the best candidate is, necessarily. Once every 5 elections, it could be simply about race. I hope you see that affirmative action is racism, no matter how you package it. Come on, DS. You know that when a program is designed for minorities, then...by definition...it is not racist. Well, first, I'm no fan of Affirmative Action. Not that sharing that point will make any difference in the reaction, most likely. However, rac·ism ˈrāˌsizəm/ noun noun: racism the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. "a program to combat racism" synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism "Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia" Affirmative Action, however short-sighted, is not about one race being superior. It's about evening perceived racial imbalance/injustice perceived to be created by previously judging some as racially superior. Does it favor minorities? It does. Is it then fair? Arguably not. But racism? It really isn't. Scream as you might.

thompsonx -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/24/2016 12:08:52 PM)
ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant Come on, DS. You know that when a program is designed for minorities, then...by definition...it is not racist. Loosing your grip on your white priviledge really frightrns you doesn't it?

Termyn8or -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/24/2016 12:56:09 PM)
"Idaho is a state not a country dumbass, " Who the fuck said it is ? "What constitutes a minority in the third world shithole called singapore? " That is such a childish statement. What, did you go there and get camed for vandalism ? If so, learn to obey the laws of places you go. "What does your glory hole have to do with anything? " You appear to have the mind of a hateful ten year old. "As has been pointed out many times there is no choice in that third world shithole called singapore. " And who are you writing in for President this year ? And do you think they will win ? That country has a proportional democracy. Look it up. T^T

Termyn8or -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/24/2016 12:59:35 PM)
"Loosing your grip on your white priviledge really frightrns you doesn't it? " In that context it is "losing" not "loosing" asshole. Apparently your language skills are up to snuff with your understanding of reality. Ad don't try to tell me it was a typo, you do it all the time. And remember, you fucking started it. T^T

Termyn8or -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/24/2016 1:01:26 PM)
That missing "N" is a typo and I am leaving it just to be a prick, now go ahead and call me illiterate over it motherfucker. T^T

DesideriScuri -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/24/2016 3:03:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 My country has just done it! Implemented new rules, where for every 5 elections, IF a minority wasn't voted in, then the following election will only allow minority candidates to be the nominee. Which gives people no choice BUT a minority candidate to be voted in. So, it doesn't matter who the best candidate is, necessarily. Once every 5 elections, it could be simply about race. I hope you see that affirmative action is racism, no matter how you package it. Come on, DS. You know that when a program is designed for minorities, then...by definition...it is not racist. Well, first, I'm no fan of Affirmative Action. Not that sharing that point will make any difference in the reaction, most likely. However, rac·ism ˈrāˌsizəm/ noun noun: racism the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. "a program to combat racism" synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism "Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia" Affirmative Action, however short-sighted, is not about one race being superior. It's about evening perceived racial imbalance/injustice perceived to be created by previously judging some as racially superior. Does it favor minorities? It does. Is it then fair? Arguably not. But racism? It really isn't. Scream as you might. Synonyms (of racism) include "racial discrimination," which is exactly what Affirmative Action is. If you want people to be more accurate, I get it. Affirmative Action isn't, by some definitions, racism, but it is racial discrimination, which, by some definitions, IS racism. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism quote: Full Definition of racism 1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2: racial prejudice or discrimination (Affirmative Action fits Merriam-Webster's 2nd definition of racism.) https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racism: quote: 1[mass noun] Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. (The Oxford Dictionary doesn't list racial prejudice or discrimination as a definition of racism.) I don't know why you're hopped up on this semantic difference, though.

thompsonx -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/24/2016 5:58:07 PM)
ORIGINAL: Termyn8or "Idaho is a state not a country dumbass, " Who the fuck said it is ? Try to think back to before you passed out last night and ask yourself just who was the most prominant idiot from idaho tossed from this forum. "What constitutes a minority in the third world shithole called singapore? " That is such a childish statement. What, did you go there and get camed for vandalism ? If so, learn to obey the laws of places you go. Thee and not me is the one who brags about how many laws they break. "What does your glory hole have to do with anything? " You appear to have the mind of a hateful ten year old. "As has been pointed out many times there is no choice in that third world shithole called singapore. " And who are you writing in for President this year ? And do you think they will win ? That country has a proportional democracy. Look it up. Roflmfao....It is a nazi dictatorship,ask greta.

thompsonx -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/24/2016 6:09:44 PM)
ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri I don't know why you're hopped up on this semantic difference, though. Why, are you "hopped up"? You present a semantic arguement and then castigate someone else for it.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/24/2016 7:18:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant Come on, DS. You know that when a program is designed for minorities, then...by definition...it is not racist. Loosing your grip on your white priviledge really frightrns you doesn't it? Actually, I don't have any privilege to lose. White privilege is another term thought up by the academic elite...who've never come out of their ivory tower...and accepted all too readily by those eager to embrace another explanation that explains away why some, not all oddly enough (Powell, Rice, Sowell, West, Carson, Clark, etc), never get anywhere.

thompsonx -> RE: Affirmative Action for President (9/24/2016 8:01:06 PM)
ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant Actually, I don't have any privilege to lose. White privilege is another term thought up by the academic elite...who've never come out of their ivory tower...and accepted all too readily by those eager to embrace another explanation that explains away why some, not all oddly enough (Powell, Rice, Sowell, West, Carson, Clark, etc), never get anywhere. You are the one who started the pity party about how your white priviledge is being eroded by those upity blacks who just can't get over the past like the imagined evils your tribe suffered. You have been informed on several occasions how to fake being black "black like me". You clearly lack the balls to do so...whassamater sweetie are you afraid that by mascarading as black you might get hurt?

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