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Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 7:05:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why the rise of religious extremism? A seemingly simple question

Religion. Does anyone know the death totals, roughly, from the last
One century
Nineteen centuries before that
Begging of time minus the last twenty Centuries

And how does that compare to political/ideological extremism, and death totals war wise, and is religious extremism any worse now, than it has been since the beginning of recorded time

And, could the argument not be made that political - ideological extremism is the bigger devil by a good billion or so.

Now, if I said my answer is to ban all religion am I not equally guilty of bestowing my ideology, and thusly part of the problem not the solution.

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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 7:07:12 AM   
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Why the rise of religious extremism? A seemingly simple question

Seemingly simple answer:
Because imbeciles find it easier to deal with the simplest and most reductive forms of religion than an increasingly complicated and intimidating reality.

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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 7:22:56 AM   
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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 7:38:48 AM   
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And, could the argument not be made that political - ideological extremism is the bigger devil by a good billion or so.

Yes, but only because modern wars (since Sherman burned Atlanta) became wars against entire populations. . . .Guernica, London, Coventry, Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, etc. and the weapons used have become exponentially more powerful.

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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 8:04:12 AM   
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I think religion is fading. People are seeing it for what it is. Complete and utter nonsense.

People have been saying that since the eighteenth century: it's taking an awful long time to fade if that's the case.

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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 8:24:21 AM   
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Why the rise of religious extremism? A seemingly simple question

I speculate that it is financed by George Soros and / or his ilk.

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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 9:00:02 AM   
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One religion is 2000 years old
The other is 1300 year old. perhaps they have some catching up to do?

Fear and terror are formidable...what has any of that to do with religion?
The raping of women and children...what has any of that to do with religion?
The twin towers indiscriminate religion wise but how is that any worse than collateral damage? what has any of that to do with religion?


Funding - granted they need funding rule

idiots they will need drones whoremods and the easily brainwashed by non factual information - imbeciles fair enough word

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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 9:00:57 AM   
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Ah, yes! The "rise of 'religious' extremism".

As near as I can tell, it started in the '70s when the "peacenik" atheists decided to start adding violence to their protests.



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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 9:20:28 AM   
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Ah, yes! The "rise of 'religious' extremism".

As near as I can tell, it started in the '70s when the "peacenik" atheists decided to start adding violence to their protests.



Michael

Except that atheism is not a 'religion.'

Oh and all of the 'good' books are full of 'religious' extremism.

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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 9:33:17 AM   
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Why the rise of religious extremism? A seemingly simple question

Religion. Does anyone know the death totals, roughly, from the last
One century
Nineteen centuries before that
Begging of time minus the last twenty Centuries

And how does that compare to political/ideological extremism, and death totals war wise, and is religious extremism any worse now, than it has been since the beginning of recorded time

And, could the argument not be made that political - ideological extremism is the bigger devil by a good billion or so.

Now, if I said my answer is to ban all religion am I not equally guilty of bestowing my ideology, and thusly part of the problem not the solution.



I see it as bing cyclic. Look back at History. Mexic, you had to be catholic. Rome, youhad to be pagan (whatever that means). Vatican you had to be catholic. In inquestion. and so on. It has it's up and downs. Right now we are on an up tick. Sooner or later it will reverse again.

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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 9:41:36 AM   
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Okay so we need:
1. Region
a. what religions do we need. do we need them all? Or two, or one in particular?
2. Finance who said that ah the one called rule They need that until they become self financing, which is rather unlikely be it oil or gold

what else do we need?



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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 10:33:48 AM   
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Except that atheism is not a 'religion.'



They way most of the '60s-'70s protestors practice "atheism", it most certainly is a religion.



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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 10:52:14 AM   
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Ah, yes! The "rise of 'religious' extremism".

As near as I can tell, it started in the '70s when the "peacenik" atheists decided to start adding violence to their protests.

Michael

As usual your bias is as evident as your misrepresentation of realty, Michael.

The Jesus Movement or "Jesus Freaks" was a movement in the late 1960s and 1970s of former hippies, drug addicts, occult and eastern religion practitioners, rock and roll musicians, etc. becoming born-again Christians. The movement stressed personal conversion to Jesus and outreach ministries in places the conventional churches paid little attention to at the time, such as coffee houses in inner cities. One of the important churches of the movement was the Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa, California founded by Chuck Smith, which later grew into a major Christian denomination.[1] The new young Christian converts were often disparaged as "Jesus freaks" by non-Christian hippies and supporters of the New Left.


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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 10:52:45 AM   
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Except that atheism is not a 'religion.'



They way most of the '60s-'70s protestors practice "atheism", it most certainly is a religion.



Michael

So which unprovable suppositions somebody produced in the bronze age is it based on, then?


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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 2:50:41 PM   
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Ah, yes! The "rise of 'religious' extremism".

As near as I can tell, it started in the '70s when the "peacenik" atheists decided to start adding violence to their protests.



Michael

Thas funny cos where I come from the IRA were not at all peaceful in the 60s and 70s.
of course it depends on the type of religious extremism

Peaceniks(sheesh) probably did start the resentment of war hawks and wanna be nukers of russia along with racists and bigots who wanted it to stay a white chiristian nation, which is something it isnt.

The past 8 years has seen the rise of "the christian" nation trying to deny women reproductive health care, contraception and cutting benefit programs, gay marriage, bathrooom bills and the self righteous anger of people who think they have the right to define patriotism and "americanism" for other people.

If you wanna talk islam, well that started centuries ago, but the recent rise, is due to wars and an increase in fundamentalism. technology and the interwebs.
SO for me it comes down to ignorant arrogant fundamentalists .





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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 2:56:14 PM   
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What we have is a rise in global information and misinformation provided via the internet.

Atrocities committed in the name of faith..... have been around. It is just harder to keep people from finding out about it witb todays technology


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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 3:29:27 PM   
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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 3:35:48 PM   
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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 7:23:37 PM   
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Religion gives people the base need of Maslow's hierarchy... eternal safety ... as long as...

If religion does that for people, then those people are living in self-deception. They deceive themselves if they believe or 'rely' upon some imaginary god and that that god authored some divine words in a book (as written or told to other humans) as an orthodoxy, giving instructions in how to live their lives, then also thereby, grants them a paradise in an afterlife.

Thus they also deceive themselves into believing that would also have then achieved or could achieve success in obtaining the personal needs theorized in Maslow's hierarchy.

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RE: Why the rise of religious extremism? - 9/25/2016 7:35:24 PM   
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Except that atheism is not a 'religion.'



They way most of the '60s-'70s protestors practice "atheism", it most certainly is a religion.



Michael

That one has concluded that there is no diety, there is no god to worship or follow and simply not to express such obeisance...is not a religion.

Atheism is not a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

Atheism is simply...disblief. And I was one of those 60-70's protesters and never heard, felt or discussed atheism that much at all.

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