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vincentML -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 9:30:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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What surprises me is that it took this long for his campaign to implode, and that it wasn't because of something he did today, not years ago.

Trump has been a great story. The Media gave birth to it and nourished it. Now, they don't know how to kill it. They will really be dumbfucked if it ends with Trump in he WH, although the odds seem to be against that right now.. big time.


Agreed. The media needs to own up to their role in this learn from it. Fat chance that will happen though.
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Not to mention that there is currently an investigation into charges he raped a 13 year old.

Do you have a citation for this???

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/


Thanks. Interesting. We shall have to wait to see if there is any truth in this. I notice that the witness statement was not attached as an affidavit, so I am a bit skeptical.




vincentML -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 9:32:43 PM)

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People using submissive orientation as apologist fodder...I am sickened, literally, by the casual death of consent on this board in his defense.

Agree. Thanks [:)]

I find Trump's blaming Bill and Hillary like a playground retort. "Billy did it first, nah, nah!"

I think he blemished his apology taking it there.




Greta75 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 9:41:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Seems to me that Wiener has a seriously sick compulsion. Whew! Good thing we never meet any people like that in BDSM circles.

Using their toddler son to hit up women, taking nude pictures of himself with his own son in it, to send to woman is a BDSM thing? WOW!
I think yea, if it involves non-consensual children.

I don't think it's BDSM!

If I were his wife, I'd keep my son away from his hands! He is not a fit father!




vincentML -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 9:50:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Seems to me that Wiener has a seriously sick compulsion. Whew! Good thing we never meet any people like that in BDSM circles.

Using their toddler son to hit up women, taking nude pictures of himself with his own son in it, to send to woman is a BDSM thing? WOW!
I think yea, if it involves non-consensual children.

I don't think it's BDSM!

If I were his wife, I'd keep my son away from his hands! He is not a fit father!

I didn't say Wiener's activities were related to BDSM. You should read with greater care. What i am saying is that there are probably plenty of people in BDSM Kink who are troubled by mental illness like compulsion. I am also saying, as difficult as this may seem to you, we should have empathy for the mentally ill who act out of compulsion. Wiener destroyed his life and fucked up his wife. Surely, he had his illness before he married, so she was deceived. The child will survive, I think, although she may have to change its name to avoid future stigma.




heavyblinker -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 9:57:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ohthat1percent

Hillary is scum -- seriously. Trump will not make a great president -- but he will take us in a completely different direction than Obama did and Hillary appears to be following.


I keep hearing this from Trump supporters.

You do know that different isn't the same thing as better, right?




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 10:01:28 PM)

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When Bill did far worse

How is that in any way relevant?




Kirata -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 10:02:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

Thanks. Interesting. We shall have to wait to see if there is any truth in this. I notice that the witness statement was not attached as an affidavit, so I am a bit skeptical.

Mike Fisten, a retired Miami-Dade detective who conducted research for several of Epstein's victims, denied such parties ever even took place. "Jeffery never had parties like described in their complaint," Fisten told me. "Jeffery had sex parties, for sure, with two or three girls -- but never with other guys." There were men in attendance at Epstein’s more large, lavish affairs, Fisten said, but nothing illicit ever happened at such events. ~Source

The facts speak less to a scandal and more, perhaps, to an attempt at a smear -- one that finally, after months of clumsy maneuvering, is gaining speed ~Source

The Source Pushing The Trump Rape Lawsuits May Not Be Who He Says He Is

K.





Greta75 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 10:05:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
we should have empathy for the mentally ill who act out of compulsion. Wiener destroyed his life and fucked up his wife. Surely, he had his illness before he married, so she was deceived. The child will survive, I think, although she may have to change its name to avoid future stigma.

Anybody who intentionally fucked up his wife and destroy his own life is mentally ill?
Some people are just about pursuing whatever brings them pleasure, not giving a damn who they hurt in the process. I don't think it's a mental illness. Simply a basic character problem or core beliefs problem.

And then again, what has mental illness got to do with BDSM? You draw parallels that this is common in BDSM. Are you saying BDSM is filled with mental illness folks?

Because when I think of BDSM, I never associate it as a lifestyle that attracts alot of mental illness participants at all. Predators maybe, because they don't understand all those things happening are suppose to be mutually consensual. They might have the misconception or misguided belief that, many women fantasies about these things and really wants it non-consensual.

I think you got to be pretty sane to practice actual BDSM and have clarity of thoughts to understand and know why you enjoy it.





ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 10:21:55 PM)

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and have clarity of thoughts to understand and know why you enjoy it.

Dafuq? I have no clue why I enjoy it, nor do I care. It's enough to know that I do.




Greta75 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 10:39:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
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and have clarity of thoughts to understand and know why you enjoy it.

Dafuq? I have no clue why I enjoy it, nor do I care. It's enough to know that I do.

lol, okay, so are you saying you are mentally ill?
I'm sure you know why you enjoy it. It brings you pleasure.




heavyblinker -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 10:41:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

Competent at what? Selling the Lincoln bedroom? Selling access to friends on Wall Street that's put over a hundred million dollars in their control since Bill left office? Blowing up the Middle East? A reset with Russia? Relations with China and Nort Korea? Just exactly what competency are you suggesting is valuable?


And here we go with the 'sins of the Clintons' defense... ethics are not the same thing as competence. You can make unethical decisions in a rational way-- appeasing those with power can create relationships that can be useful politically. I don't like it, but it seems like a lot of these decisions were at least made after careful consideration and in the best interests of everyone who has power.

Trump has zero real experience in the realm of politics so appears 'cleaner' to people who don't care about things like paying taxes or ethical business practices... but that doesn't mean that giving him the power to play in the political arena is suddenly going to make him a great leader, co-operative person or someone who isn't concerned only with his own selfish interests. Until now he's simply been too much of a joke and an asshole for anyone to ever consider dealing him in, but he's not suddenly going to become an upstanding, respectable, selfless person after becoming president. In fact, he'll only get worse.

But there's always a chance that he's too stupid and full of himself to even do corruption right. He has already alienated so many big players, turned so many people against him that they would go out of their way to screw or otherwise humiliate/expose him.
He would be the most powerless president in history... with practically everyone in Washington doing all they can to get him impeached, stripped of his power and/or OUT of there ASAP.

His incompetence is evident in his ridiculous statements about border walls that foreign countries have to pay for, banning Muslims and starting a trade war with China. These are not the kind of ideas that adults have. Anyone who paid attention in high school history courses knows that these are the kind of ideas reserved for Bond villains who simply want to wreak havoc for personal gain... though in Trump's case, the havoc would be wrought due to stupidity alone. He's like the paranoid losers who also think that sending everyone with AIDS to an island is such a glaringly obvious way to stop the spread of the disease that the only reason it hasn't been tried is because of a liberal conspiracy, or that global warming is a plot to ruin the economy and establish a new world order run by the Illuminati or lizard people or something.

These are not rational ideas, they are rooted in anger and fear... possibly even group psychosis. Nobody who is not afraid, angry, ignorant or insane could ever support Trump. Nobody with a rational mind could ever admit that he would be a good leader. He's popular with some people because they think he's 'different', but they don't push their brains further on that point and never ask themselves about whether or not his brand of 'different' makes any sense.

He is terrible in every conceivable way... and this is pretty much the only election I can think of where there is only one possible choice. I couldn't even bring myself to vote Green like I usually do-- Romney, McCain (not Palin or Bush)... whatever, they're still somewhat worthy of my respect even if I don't agree. But this time the GOP has fucked up so badly that I'm too scared not to vote for Hillary.




Lordandmaster -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 11:49:14 PM)

I'm just shocked that after all his many frauds, his bankruptcies, his mendacity, not to mention his repeated and calculated racist comments--that THIS is what might finally do him in.




Greta75 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 11:51:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I'm just shocked that after all his many frauds, his bankruptcies, his mendacity, not to mention his repeated and calculated racist comments--that THIS is what might finally do him in.


I am shock that the fact he had threesomes is being used against him.

Also, that bit about saying his daughter is voluptuous. In context, Howard stern asked him if his daughter boobs were fake. And his reply was, she is naturally voluptuous. That is not a perverted answer, but just clarifying they aren't fake.




Charles6682 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/8/2016 11:58:22 PM)

Is anyone really surprised anymore? It's already been shown Trump is a sexist bigot. Perhaps I think what is shocking, is just how many people here in America still believe like Trump thinks. Trump never would have gone as far as he did if it wasn't for people voting for him. I thought America made a lot of progress with equality over the decades and we have. Its no surprise that there are intolerant biggots in America but I just didn't think there was so many out there. We went from having the first Black President to a guy who wants to bring America back to the 1930's, when everyone knew their place. We could still have the First Female President in history. We will all see how that turns out in next months election. Which path the majority of Americans want to go. Just know, if the bigot wins, I don't want the rest of the World to think all Americans are like that. There were some of us who still believe every human deserves to be treated with respect, regardless of race, gender, religion, sex, etc.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 12:16:07 AM)


I am far more offended by the things the anti-Christ has done (including the foreign policy for which I hold accountable the death of my son) than for anything Trump has said.



Michael




Charles6682 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 12:23:18 AM)

I'm sorry for the loss of your son, DaddySatyr.




Charles6682 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 12:26:10 AM)

We do live in a democracy. Its not perfect but I still believe democracy is the best form of government in the world.




Kirata -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 12:41:26 AM)


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We do live in a democracy. Its not perfect but I still believe democracy is the best form of government in the world.

Democracy is three wolves and a sheep voting on lunch. The United States is a constitutional republic.

K.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 12:54:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata

Democracy is three wolves and a sheep voting on lunch. The United States is a constitutional republic.

K.



Kirata, you know me well enough to know that I just have to finish that quote:

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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep, voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed sheep, contesting the results of the election.



You're welcome [:)]



Michael




Charles6682 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 1:00:21 AM)

In my submissive mind, I wouldn't mind living in a Matriarchy. Ok, that's enough of my submissive fantasies.




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