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Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/8/2016 7:36:46 PM

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.....how he even came to power.

.....emerged the character’s weird, obsessive determination to reach a goal that looked impossibly far off, a position for which he had no reasonable expectation, no proper qualification and absolutely no aptitude.

.....villainy was readily apparent to everyone. There was no secret about his fathomless cynicism, cruelty and treacherousness, no glimpse of anything redeemable in him and no reason to believe that he could govern the country effectively.

.....there are those who cannot keep in focus that [he] is as bad as he seems to be. They see perfectly well that he has (said or) done this or that ghastly thing, but they have a strange penchant for forgetting, as if it were hard work to remember just how awful he is. They are drawn irresistibly to normalize what is not normal.

..... those who feel frightened or impotent in the face of bullying and the menace of violence. “I’ll make a xxxxx of him that disobeys.”

.....threatens, and the opposition to his outrageous commands somehow shrivels away. It helps that he is an immensely wealthy and privileged man, accustomed to having his way, even when his way is in violation of every moral norm.

Who is this man ?

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/8/2016 8:44:06 PM

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I thought this one was a reasonable breakdown of his political attraction.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/fl-aacol-trump-public-service-20161007-story.html

It too argues that very little is really known about Trump, despite decades in the spotlight.

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/9/2016 4:38:03 AM

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Bit unfair on the historical Richard III, that. (Mind you, so was Shakespeare...)

The best fictional avatar that anybody has suggested for the circus peanut so far is the Mule from Asimov's Foundation books, imo.

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/9/2016 12:11:10 PM

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I simply believe many americans to be utterly fuking mental - would seem the more plausible explanation.

Never read Shakespeare so I don't understand the reference sorry :( and cannot be bothered reading the article - is it the dark ages or something nowadays - actually he is mentioned in the book of revelations.

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/9/2016 12:27:08 PM

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The guy they found under a car park in Sheffield? There was a rather good film with Magneto playing him back in the '90s.

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/11/2016 7:56:28 AM

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I simply believe many americans to be utterly fuking mental - would seem the more plausible explanation.

Never read Shakespeare so I don't understand the reference sorry :( and cannot be bothered reading the article - is it the dark ages or something nowadays - actually he is mentioned in the book of revelations.

If you read the link you would understand the reference.

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/11/2016 8:14:28 AM

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Trump's success (such as it is) is easily understood if one views it from a semiotic perspective, or from a psychoanalytic perspective. An analysis from either of these perspectives would also explain the seemingly fact-proof nature of his support.

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/11/2016 9:52:47 AM

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You elected Reagan, Arnold, Ventura.

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/11/2016 10:06:04 AM

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You elected Reagan, Arnold, Ventura.

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[WE] did ? Come again ? Yes, all 3 were simply media people but all 3 were very different people, (different parties) different times, different elections and voted in by...not the same...'we.'

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/11/2016 10:52:52 AM

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/11/2016 11:44:21 PM

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Touche!!!!

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/12/2016 1:01:26 AM

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With the amount of money he says he has, he could hire himself a reasonable size and reasonably well trained mercenary team and steal himself a small African nation...............somewhere like Sierra Leone maybe.............and then he could strut around in a pretty uniform, have his own private army and shiny red button to push ( connected to nothing) and go ahead with his immigration policies with any tribes he didn't like.
I wonder if he's read 'Dogs of War' maybe ?

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/12/2016 4:46:43 AM

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With the amount of money he says he has, he could hire himself a reasonable size and reasonably well trained mercenary team and steal himself a small African nation...............somewhere like Sierra Leone maybe.............and then he could strut around in a pretty uniform, have his own private army and shiny red button to push ( connected to nothing) and go ahead with his immigration policies with any tribes he didn't like.
I wonder if he's read 'Dogs of War' maybe ?

He could do that with ten billion, probably.
Whether he could manage to do that with the couple of hundred million or so that he more likely has is a whole other issue.
And given the circus peanut's well documented issues with paying his employees, he might have other issues hiring even the worst-trained mercenary team, never mind people who have some sort of clue what they're doing...

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/12/2016 5:12:42 AM

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according to one supporter, he wont have to pay them, they are ready to revolt
"Our lives depend on this election. … If Hillary Clinton gets in, I myself, I'm ready for a revolution because we can't have her in,” she said.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-mike-pence-halts-trump-supporter-for-1476223249-htmlstory.html

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/12/2016 5:32:03 AM

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Because, of course, we've never heard that from the denialicans before, have we?
They didn't stage a revolution under her husband. They didn't stage a revolution when the whitest black guy in the united states became President (despite his being a moslem from Kenya). They won't stage a revolution if Clinton wins next month. They're like their orange-faced, bewigged, sniffing and snorting cockwomble of a role model: all talk. Nothing any of them has to say deserves to be taken seriously because they're a bunch of spineless whining liars. They wouldn't stage a revolution if Li Kequiang invaded their country and started rounding them up into death camps and cutting their kids up for organ transplants, so not liking Clinton? Forget about it.

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/12/2016 5:43:38 AM

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A couple of points after reading the responses.....

1) Donald is nothing like the historic Richard III, but reminds me a lot of "The Madness of King George."
2) As for Donald taking over a small African country, considering that the longest any private security firm has actually tolerated his bs, and even with the mercenary attitude of fighting for the guy who is paying, 98% of mercs would have serious ethical concerns of working for him...
And those that didnt have ethical concerns would probably just frag his ass and call it a win.
3) His paranoia is reminiscent of Stalin during the purges, how many times do we have to hear him say "if he loses the election it is because the voting was rigged" to prove this point. He said it during the primaries, he is saying it now....

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/12/2016 5:46:16 AM

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I wish I had that much faith in his base support, but then there is this
If you’ve been seeing more and more people shouting “Bill Clinton is a rapist” on national TV, it’s because they’re trying to get $5,000. InfoWars is offering $5,000 to anyone who can say “Bill Clinton is a rapist” on national TV, along with $1,000 to anyone who can get InfoWars’ “rape” shirt on national TV clearly for more than five seconds. The contest is ongoing until a budget of $100,000 is reached. The video above shows someone taking advantage of the offer during a Bill Clinton rally in Greenfield.

Here’s what you need to know.

More and more people have been interrupting rallies, broadcast interviews, and live news feeds so they can shout “Bill Clinton is a rapist!” That’s because Alex Jones of InfoWars is offering money to anyone who succeeds. Here’s the video where Jones first made his offer (it starts at around the 26:22 mark in the video):

http://heavy.com/news/2016/10/is-there-bill-clinton-is-a-rapist-contest-watch-videos-alex-jones-infowars-youtube/

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/12/2016 6:18:22 AM

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oh dear gawd, poor Keith Olbermann just had a hissy fit over having to find out what a pussy bow is
Here he is with some of the best comments over trumps 2 debates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDCZ8HSDDTU

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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/12/2016 7:11:09 AM

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I wish I had that much faith in his base support, but then there is this
If you’ve been seeing more and more people shouting “Bill Clinton is a rapist” on national TV, it’s because they’re trying to get $5,000. InfoWars is offering $5,000 to anyone who can say “Bill Clinton is a rapist” on national TV, along with $1,000 to anyone who can get InfoWars’ “rape” shirt on national TV clearly for more than five seconds. The contest is ongoing until a budget of $100,000 is reached. The video above shows someone taking advantage of the offer during a Bill Clinton rally in Greenfield.

If bill and his wife had a lick of sense and a sense of humor they would call a news conference with a couple dozen of their supporters wearing the t shirt. While repeating in unison "alex jones paid me to say bill clinton is a rapist... Take the 100k and thank alex for his contribuition.
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RE: Shakespeare's Trump...and - 10/12/2016 7:23:37 AM

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I wish I had that much faith in his base support, but then there is this

I have faith that his base is composed of clueless whining fuckwits who are no real threat to anybody outside of a trailer park, and who probably wouldn't dare to say boo to a goose if the circus peanut isn't offering to pay their legal fees for them. "Contempt" might be a better description of my feeling towards these fucktards than "faith". Put it this way: Ted Nugent can supposedly use a gun, but didn't (at any point during the last eight years of an unelected moslem flouting the constitution by being black in the White House) shoot anybody or do anything but piss and moan like a whiney little bitch. Neither did any of the militias. The suggestion that the cheeto-faced shitgibbon's base are more likely to do anything than the offgrid white supremacists isn't all that convincing, frankly.

As for the "rapist" thing I rather like thompson's suggestion. Bill and Hitlary probably wouldn't want to be seen sporting those shirts, but maybe they could get Chelsea to wear one to a press call? It does raise an interesting question about the tiny-handed shitweasel, though: is he Alex Jones' bitch as well as Rupert Murdoch's and Vladimir Putin's?

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