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Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 7:49:17 AM

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This puzzles me a little and whom was responsible?

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 8:07:52 AM

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Release by the Bush family probably. Jeb very bitter.

And the Bushes and Clintons have always been chummy.

I wonder if it was Jeb versus Clintons, how would it have been like.

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 8:11:54 AM

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a slaughter, just like this one.

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 8:25:50 AM

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http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/07/media/access-hollywood-donald-trump-tape/

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 8:44:31 AM

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Obviously they chose now because they wanted to release it at a time when it would be politically damaging and seriously hurt Trump's chances of becoming president... it's a good thing.

Really, it could have been anyone... Trump has made a lot of enemies and is possibly the most aggressively despised presidential candidate in history. There's no sense making this into some sort of conspiracy-- if I had access to the tapes, I would have definitely leaked them. I wouldn't want money, and I wouldn't do it for Hillary-- just the satisfaction derived from publicly humiliating that disgusting creature would be enough.

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 8:44:40 AM

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LOL at the conspiracy from the trump clone
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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 9:03:39 AM

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And the Bushes and Clintons have always been chummy.

Pics or it didn't happen.

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 9:41:01 AM

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If it were the republicans I feel they would have done it earlier
The democrats have no need to do so

Did obama instruct the CIA? It certainly was not the Russians, or the Chinese and Obama can declare martial law...I am not kidding..I think I would if he got elected

So I remain puzzled..the year was 1987 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v32VypWeF0I, or was it 2005 and that is a long time ago...so why now..I cannot work this out myself even remotely

The last polls I saw it was 48% - 44%. A 2% swing is that is required....lucy did you do the chair thingy one - again an i will love you forever

I am damaged goods with three cats - but to achieve that swing of 2% he has to punch someone...trust me on these matters

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 12:16:59 PM

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Because it's politics and everyone plays dirty (bar Bernie Sanders).

Trump's comments on the tape are largely fucking irrelevant. Men with power can get away with a lot - that's just a fact. And women often welcome approaches from those men.

The major concern with Trump is his incompetence, poor temperament and his history of notoriously bad decisions. He's manifestly incompetent to be commander in chief. His comments are inconsistent with the rather puritanical standards that Americans expect of their Presidents (family men, tall, good hair, must be married and have children, profess a belief in Christianity and Capitalism).

Trump's comments are consistent with those of a pussy-hound - and you can only do that AFTER you get into office. (Kennedy and Clinton being prime examples).

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 12:45:45 PM

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Release by the Bush family probably. Jeb very bitter.

And the Bushes and Clintons have always been chummy.

I wonder if it was Jeb versus Clintons, how would it have been like.

On what fucking planet and what dimension?

The Bush family and the Clinton family have not always been chummy. Christ, Bill was born on the wrong side of the tracks for Bush II to associate with in college. Bill is from your basic poor white stock (two steps above white trash) and the Bush family is a long wealthy bunch from Connecticut. In fact Bush sr and Bush II were born in that damn fucked up Yankee state, Dubya was just raised in Texas (and you no good fucking yankees can have the entire fucking clan back!)

Your lack of knowledge of the political realities in the United States could fill volumes, and what you think you know is nothing more than bullshit.

Greta, do yourself a big favor.

Christ woman, if you ever said anything close to reality, the shock would be almost too much (and probably too much for some on these boards) that you would be responsible for the hospitalization in ICU for many and possibly the death of a few.

You remind me of a person I dealt with when I was doing tech support for Dell.

Customer: I cant get my desktop to turn on.

Me: Lets run through the basics, is it plugged in? The plug could have been accidently pulled from the socket.

Customer: Yes, I checked all that.

After 10 minutes of checking every possible simple explaination, the customer commented: Man the blizzard is getting worse, if the power doesnt come on soon, I am going to have to go to the shelter.

Me: The power is out?

Customer: Yes

Me: Sir that is why your desktop will not power up.

Customer: But my laptop powers up just fine.

Me: The laptop has a battery.

Customer: But it is plugged in to the wall.

Me: It does not matter, the laptop is using the battery to power on.

Customer: Are you sure?

Me: Yes.

Customer: Well, I really dont have time to argue, I will have to go to a shelter to get ready for my flight.

Me: Well I hope you are going somewhere warm.

Customer:Yes actually, I am a pilot for American Airlines, and this evening I am flying to Hawaii.

Me: Have a nice flight.

You could be that pilot.

FYI, Dell still uses that recording for training.

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 6:32:50 PM

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Because it's politics and everyone plays dirty (bar Bernie Sanders).
Trump's comments on the tape are largely fucking irrelevant. Men with power can get away with a lot - that's just a fact. And women often welcome approaches from those men.

Some women welcome those approaches. And, it's those women who Trump was talking about, and it's those women who, generally, don't have that much of a problem with it. Trump and his ilk will make mistakes and attempt to kiss/grope a woman who isn't welcoming of those advances. There are also women who will try to railroad a celebrity into making an advance like that for the sole purpose of suing. It happens. It probably happens to some extent if you switch the genders.

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 7:16:57 PM

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The Bush family and the Clinton family have not always been chummy. Christ, Bill was born on the wrong side of the tracks for Bush II to associate with in college. Bill is from your basic poor white stock (two steps above white trash) and the Bush family is a long wealthy bunch from Connecticut.

What has their birth place and status gotta do with it?
Bush and Bill Clinton always had a rather friendly relationship.
And Bush is gonna vote for Hillary! I think his whole family is!
They are chummy. Clinton News Network Says So!

Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush have also spent their post-presidencies teaming up for philanthropic endeavors. And in recent years, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush have increasingly appeared together.
The two grew so close that George W. Bush has referred to Clinton as his "brother from another mother," and Clinton has said the two bonded over becoming grandfathers.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politics/george-hw-bush-hillary-clinton/

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 7:46:21 PM

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The Bush family and the Clinton family have not always been chummy. Christ, Bill was born on the wrong side of the tracks for Bush II to associate with in college. Bill is from your basic poor white stock (two steps above white trash) and the Bush family is a long wealthy bunch from Connecticut.

What has their birth place and status gotta do with it?
Bush and Bill Clinton always had a rather friendly relationship.
And Bush is gonna vote for Hillary! I think his whole family is!
They are chummy. Clinton News Network Says So!

Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush have also spent their post-presidencies teaming up for philanthropic endeavors. And in recent years, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush have increasingly appeared together.
The two grew so close that George W. Bush has referred to Clinton as his "brother from another mother," and Clinton has said the two bonded over becoming grandfathers.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politics/george-hw-bush-hillary-clinton/

Greta, while post presidency the two families have worked together on common interests, it is far from lifelong friendship.

add to that the famous saying, politics makes for strange bedfellows.

And yes, Bush II did say he would vote for Hilary, but I might add that there is a part of the announcement that was left out, that being that he would vote for Hilary since his party did not have a viable candidate he could in good conscience vote for.

Again, that falls back to "politics makes for strange bedfellows."

Or to put it in another way.

Bush II would vote for a dead yellow dog before voting for Trump.

And since Bush II is voting in Texas, which does not allow the option of actually writing in Pence for president instead of vice president, there really is no choice.

While the US is technically a multi party system, the simple truth is that unlike a parliamentary government, a coalition of party elected representitives cannot be formed after the election. For good or bad, we are stuck with one of two bad choices.

It is kind of like being bitten by a Mojave rattle snake. There is a better than 90% chance that the bite will prove fatal.

There is an antivenin for the snake venom, the thing is that it puts such a strain on the body when administered that there is a 50/50 chance it will kill you.

If either results in death, it will be painful and there is nothing they can do for the pain, because administering a pain medication is 100% fatal.

So, you basically have to choose between two possibly fatal outcomes.

What gets me is that you cannot or will not comprehend that two political opponents can find common ground outside of politics, and when it happens, a friendship may develop, but that does not mean they are life long chums.

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 7:50:23 PM

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What gets me is that you cannot or will not comprehend that two political opponents can find common ground outside of politics, and when it happens, a friendship may develop, but that does not mean they are life long chums.

JF, I am 35 yr old. Their friendship is life long to me. It's practically my life long.

And I believe their friendship is genuine. Not because of finding common ground.

Not all x-Presidents can be so chummy with each other.

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/12/2016 8:12:01 PM

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What gets me is that you cannot or will not comprehend that two political opponents can find common ground outside of politics, and when it happens, a friendship may develop, but that does not mean they are life long chums.

JF, I am 35 yr old. Their friendship is life long to me. It's practically my life long.

And I believe their friendship is genuine. Not because of finding common ground.

Not all x-Presidents can be so chummy with each other.

Lady, they have not been ex presidents for your entire life.

Secondly, many ex presidents have developed friendships after leaving office, and for really one simple reason.

The strain of that office is hard to discuss with someone that has no common frame of reference.

The same is true for combat vets. There are a few guys I served with that I can say that at some point I hated them with a passion, and the feeling was mutual.

However, I developed friendships with them after leaving the service because I found it impossible to talk to people about some of the shit who had no fucking clue what it was like being at the sharp end.

It is the same reason I go to a group session with fellow vets rather than a one on one with a shrink. That condescending "I can imagine what it must have been like" line is so much bullshit.

These men have been the leaders of one of the strongest nations in the free world. They had to deal with crisis after crisis and the public face they put on probably hides a shit load of sleepless nights and second guessing.

I sweated decisions in the military when I had to pick a couple of guys to go so far out on a limb that if the shit hit the fan they were dead meat.

These men had to make decisions that could send hundreds or thousands of men and women into the same situation.

So, do you really think they can go to the local bar and talk about it with someone that has no clue?

Give me a fucking break.

They have as much in common with some working class stiff in talking about high stress as I do trying to tell a woman that has just gone through 20 hours of labor "I know how you must feel."

I aint got a clue how she must feel. I got wounded four times in my military service, and there is no way any of that pain compares to what a woman in labor has gone through.

Your statement that friendships between former presidents is rare is about as stupid as saying elephants with abnormally large ears can fly.

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RE: Why now for the hot mic tape - 10/13/2016 6:32:25 AM

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Trump's comments are consistent with those of a pussy-hound - and you can only do that AFTER you get into office. (Kennedy and Clinton being prime examples).

Lets not forget jefferson,polk,buchannan(boyfriend)harding,cleveland,teddy and franklin roosevelt,eisenhower and johnson just to name a few of the most famous/notorious..

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