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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 3:54:17 AM   
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Well, you know what, stef? It wouldn't fucking surprise me if some people are willing to dismiss it just as it doesn't surprise me that someone did it. And it sure sounded that way by their first comment. But that's why I asked.


Yeah, you were mostly looking to confirm your own narratives, just like the guy who started this thread asking if anyone actually cared instead of simply pointing out what happened. The implication was that because it happened to Trump, it wouldn't be in the news and no one would care because of all the obvious bias/brainwashing that has absolutely nothing to do with things like this:

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-laughs-in-agreement-when-called-a-125953563.html

And if we can all be honest for a second, this thread has nothing to do with anyone being concerned about what actually happened, and everything to do with partisan allegiances. That's why everyone has completely bypassed the 'was anyone hurt?' question and headed straight for the 'us and them' arguments.

Evoking Oklahoma, 9/11, etc. is just way off base... it happened after hours and nobody was hurt. This was vandalism, not terrorism... and trying to make out like it's a massive terrorist attack, some sort of unthinkable catastrophe or in any way sanctioned by the Democrats is just absurd. It's obvious that Trump is such a weak candidate that these things seem very important to the campaign.

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 4:00:27 AM   
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But clearly the bomber will vote for Hillary...

Because, of course, everybody in the Republican party without exception approves of the circus peanut's nomination and is proud to have him as their representative in next month's election. The tiny-handed shitweasel has been very careful not to offend or annoy anybody on his own team. It's totally inconceivable that anybody who doesn't vote Democrat might firebomb a campaign office supporting him.


Who set the fire at the reishtag? the jews ? the socialist? the brown shirts? Who gains by this incident? Who looses by this incident.
Those who read history know.


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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 4:07:45 AM   
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I havent seen so many strawmen from Bama in a single thread for oh at least six months...\
OF course Trump says
Animals representing Hillary Clinton and Dems in North Carolina just firebombed our office in Orange County because we are winning.


It must be true....
Of course MCCroy hasnt endorsed hair fuhrer, and he wasnt endorsed by the charlotte observer, and has a lot of people upset with his HB2 bill
The Charlotte Observer detailed several other reasons for changing its endorsement, including, "McCrory has signed enough bad legislation to fill a library" and has been "spineless" in standing up to "the most egregious ideas" of the legislature.

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 4:14:43 AM   
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oh I like this...

https://www.gofundme.com/reopen-a-nc-republican-office-2ukuprzy

Democrats joined together on Sunday night to raise funds to rebuild a GOP office that was firebombed in North Carolina over the weekend.

Vandals attacked the Hillsborough, North Carolina GOP office late Saturday night, throwing a Molotov cocktail through one of the building’s front windows, according to a statement released by the town. The words “Nazi Republicans leave town or else” and a swastika were spray-painted in black on a building adjacent to the office, which houses a party goods store.

North Carolina is a key swing-state in the general election, but that didn’t stop a group of Democrats from launching a GoFundMe campaign to raise money for the GOP office. According to David Weinberger, a research fellow at the Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard Law School, the GoFundMe campaign was inspired by this tweet from writer and University of North Carolina professor Zeynep Tufekci

The campaign was not an official effort by the Democratic Party, Jeff Jarvis, professor and director of the Tow-Knight Center for Entrepreneurial Journalism at the City University of New York’s Graduate School of Journalism, wrote on the GoFundMe page.

“It is the effort of a half-dozen Democrats (of which I am one). This is a moment for graciousness, not fractiousness,” Jarvis wrote.

Donations quickly poured in and the campaign’s $10,000 goal was surpassed within a couple hours, Weinberger said. In total, organizers raised $13,167 from 552 donations before closing the fund.

Some donors added a message with their gift, saying that political violence was simply unacceptable.

“This act of terror was an attack on all of us,” donor Vivian Vacca wrote on the site. “In moments like these, there’s no partisanship. We’re all Americans. We stand by you.”

Weinberger said the funds would be given to the North Carolina GOP with a note saying that the donation was intended to help get the firebombed office back in operation.

“The true motive force for this effort’s incredibly quick success: a thirst for civility and a way to remember our shared love of democracy,” he said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/democrats-raise-funds-north-carolina-republican-firebombed-office_us_580430eee4b0162c043cb7e1?section=&


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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 4:14:47 AM   
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Well, you know what, stef? It wouldn't fucking surprise me if some people are willing to dismiss it just as it doesn't surprise me that someone did it. And it sure sounded that way by their first comment. But that's why I asked.

Yeah, you were mostly looking to confirm your own narratives, just like the guy who started this thread asking if anyone actually cared instead of simply pointing out what happened. The implication was that because it happened to Trump, it wouldn't be in the news and no one would care because of all the obvious bias/brainwashing that has absolutely nothing to do with things like this:

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-laughs-in-agreement-when-called-a-125953563.html

And if we can all be honest for a second, this thread has nothing to do with anyone being concerned about what actually happened, and everything to do with partisan allegiances. That's why everyone has completely bypassed the 'was anyone hurt?' question and headed straight for the 'us and them' arguments.

Evoking Oklahoma, 9/11, etc. is just way off base... it happened after hours and nobody was hurt. This was vandalism, not terrorism... and trying to make out like it's a massive terrorist attack, some sort of unthinkable catastrophe or in any way sanctioned by the Democrats is just absurd. It's obvious that Trump is such a weak candidate that these things seem very important to the campaign.

Thanks for all the psycho-babble but...umm...no. I asked a question, you answered, and I dropped the subject. End of story.

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 4:35:15 AM   
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Who knows? Could have been done by one of the people the Nazi republicans beat up at a Trump rally, could have been done by a non-Nazi republican.
Could have been done by a Trump supporter to try and prove media bias and conspiracy.

It isn't quite the same as setting fire to a church with babies inside, but it ain't acceptable neither.

Something the Nazi republicans ignore is that in less than 4 hours democrats had crowdfunded the rebuilding of the hq.

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 5:49:48 AM   
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the willful and malicious destruction of property is wrong and I hoprle that whomever was involved is brought to justice.

This election has proven how broken our system and how divided and angry our citizens are.
when you watch the world news, and see how terrible an existence so many people live; it is shameful how trifling and petty our entitled asses are.

Also, I'm ashamed. not just by the actions of a single or a few, but by the ignorant and racist prejudices that linger still, (of all colors and gender and partisan leaning).

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 5:54:56 AM   
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It is still the kind of tactics used by the Brown Shirts.
Don't get me wrong, this is too crude and too direct for Hillary to have any involvement.


Too crude is right - not least because it could easily boost Trump's support.

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 5:56:40 AM   
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oh I like this...

https://www.gofundme.com/reopen-a-nc-republican-office-2ukuprzy

Democrats joined together on Sunday night to raise funds to rebuild a GOP office that was firebombed in North Carolina over the weekend.


Wow.

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 8:05:28 AM   
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oh I like this...

https://www.gofundme.com/reopen-a-nc-republican-office-2ukuprzy

Democrats joined together on Sunday night to raise funds to rebuild a GOP office that was firebombed in North Carolina over the weekend.


Wow.


wow is right.

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 8:21:26 AM   
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the willful and malicious destruction of property is wrong and I hoprle that whomever was involved is brought to justice.

This election has proven how broken our system and how divided and angry our citizens are.
when you watch the world news, and see how terrible an existence so many people live; it is shameful how trifling and petty our entitled asses are.

Also, I'm ashamed. not just by the actions of a single or a few, but by the ignorant and racist prejudices that linger still, (of all colors and gender and partisan leaning).


Trump is now making a big deal out of his claims that the "election result is rigged" and that his defeat which seems inevitable to almost all non-partisan commentators, can only occur if the election is "stolen" by his opponents. Needless to say, there's not a scintilla of evidence to support these claims. It's all too easy to dismiss these claims as the desperate claims of a candidate who knows he's going to lose, a candidate whose ego won't allow him to accept losing gracefully, especially to a woman.

However these claims might be taken seriously by sections of his base, who have swallowed all the BS Trump has spouted thus far (and that amounts to an awful lot of BS!). There are dark mutterings of how they won't accept the "theft" of their candidate's "victory". I suppose if one is crazy enough to believe what Trump has been saying, then that same madness will allow sections of the base to be persuaded that the election has be stolen. Trump is verging on inciting a nasty response to his loss. It doesn't look pretty at all.

Does any one believe that Trump will surprise us all by suddenly morphing into a gracious loser?




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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 8:32:37 AM   
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Could have been done by a Trump supporter to try and prove media bias and conspiracy.

Yup. Maybe a "false flag" attack. Would not surprise me.

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 8:55:53 AM   
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the willful and malicious destruction of property is wrong and I hoprle that whomever was involved is brought to justice.

This election has proven how broken our system and how divided and angry our citizens are.
when you watch the world news, and see how terrible an existence so many people live; it is shameful how trifling and petty our entitled asses are.

Also, I'm ashamed. not just by the actions of a single or a few, but by the ignorant and racist prejudices that linger still, (of all colors and gender and partisan leaning).


Trump is now making a big deal out of his claims that the "election result is rigged" and that his defeat which seems inevitable to almost all non-partisan commentators, can only occur if the election is "stolen" by his opponents. Needless to say, there's not a scintilla of evidence to support these claims. It's all too easy to dismiss these claims as the desperate claims of a candidate who knows he's going to lose, a candidate whose ego won't allow him to accept losing gracefully, especially to a woman.

However these claims might be taken seriously by sections of his base, who have swallowed all the BS Trump has spouted thus far (and that amounts to an awful lot of BS!). There are dark mutterings of how they won't accept the "theft" of their candidate's "victory". I suppose if one is crazy enough to believe what Trump has been saying, then that same madness will allow sections of the base to be persuaded that the election has be stolen. Trump is verging on inciting a nasty response to his loss. It doesn't look pretty at all.

Does any one believe that Trump will surprise us all by suddenly morphing into a gracious loser?




Im with you, Altho I dont think he will "graciously" do anything.
I do think there will be bloodshed, I do think its a gambit from the extreme alt-right, like jones, bannon,
The surrogates are getting screamier and crazier
They are all blaming "media" not to trust them,
The poll "intimidators" Im sorry ahem, poll "watchers" Theres been one account of an armed man sitting outside a dem hq watching.
The base wont accept if he loses. His Media world will be hard to ignore after the election. No matter what

As for the war...yeah its been going on during the election campaign, it should really stop...!!!!
Of course the rest of the world is going on with war business as usual, I didnt know we broke for elections.
That could be an answer to world peace and justify 2 year election cycles for every country.
Maybe Obama is doing his job. gasp

Im still waiting for the big october surprise. It aint out yet.

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 9:02:22 AM   
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It also distracts from all those annoying Wikileaks documents.

And also from those annoying groping accusations.
As to who did it, well at this point we don't know. It could well be a Democratic supporter (most likely in my mind). It could be a Trump supporter angry at the GOP establishment for not backing Trump fully enough (less likely in my mind). Or it could also be a false flag operation by Trump supporters or Republicans (least likely in my mind), after all the place was attacked when nobody was there.

The one thing that is almost certain is that it was neither Clinton or trump themselves or their campaigns behind it.

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 9:13:22 AM   
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The surrogates are getting screamier and crazier
They are all blaming "media" not to trust them,
The poll "intimidators" Im sorry ahem, poll "watchers" Theres been one account of an armed man sitting outside a dem hq watching.
The base wont accept if he loses. His Media world will be hard to ignore after the election. No matter what

http://www.vox.com/2016/10/15/13294434/trump-voter-intimidation-rights
Trump doesn’t explicitly say the “other place” needs to be somewhere nonwhite people are voting. Sometimes he says “specific areas”; on one occasion, during an appearance in Pennsylvania, he called out Philadelphia.

But at least some of his supporters are picking up on the subtext. And some are openly admitting to reporters — like Matt Viser and Tracy Jan of the Boston Globe — that they’re going to engage in some “racial profiling” at the polls, and make supposedly foreign-looking voters “a little bit nervous.”

“I’ll look for . . . well, it’s called racial profiling. Mexicans. Syrians. People who can’t speak American,” he said. “I’m going to go right up behind them. I’ll do everything legally. I want to see if they are accountable. I’m not going to do anything illegal. I’m going to make them a little bit nervous.”

That quote is from a man named Steve Webb who lives in Fairfield, Ohio (a suburb of Cincinnati). That appears to be his real name — or at least, there is a Steve Webb on Facebook who fits that description and is an active Trump supporter.

In other words, Webb, to all appearances, isn’t just planning to make voters feel “a little bit nervous” if they “can’t speak American” (i.e. might be noncitizens and might be trying to vote illegally). He is so confident that he’s doing the morally and legally right thing that he was willing to put his name and face to his plan.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-supporter-armed-protest-dem
Two Donald Trump supporters openly carrying firearms sat outside the campaign office of a Democratic candidate for Congress in Virginia for nearly 12 hours on Thursday, according to CBS affiliate Newsplex in Charlottesville.

One of the protesters, Daniel Parks, told Newsplex that he held the protest to support Trump.

"I'm just trying to provide a voice for someone who might be closet supporters of Trump. Other people that are a little worried to speak out because of possible persecution," he said.

Parks and another Trump supporter who later joined him outside the campaign of the campaign office Democrat Jane Dittmar's office in Palmyra, Virginia, were openly carrying guns, Su Wolff, a volunteer for Dittmar, told Newsplex.

"He turned sideways to be sure that we would see that he has an open carry gun, which is legal, it’s fine, but it's intimidating," she said of one protester. "If he wants to support his candidate that's fine, but don't come here and stare into the office all day."

Parks told Newsplex that he was not a threat and that he was carrying a gun legally.

"We're not a threat to anybody, the only threat is ignorance, and ignorance will breed fear," he said.

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 9:31:00 AM   
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THank you for the links:)

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 9:32:07 AM   
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It was only the Republican HQ so it must be justified.
Without even looking, I'm betting the left-wing nutters in this place will blame Trump.


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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 9:33:37 AM   
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Some furniture was damaged by a molotov cocktail-- it's a real American tragedy.

The Clinton campaign responded tastefully and appropriately, with concern and sympathy... but Trump used it as 'proof' the election is 'rigged', and spewed anger and bile.

What else would you expect.
Had it been the other way around we would be hearing about how Trumps followers are all brown shirts and Trump would be denying any connection.
But clearly the bomber will vote for Hillary.
One post, one person telling us how this proves how terrible the Republicans are.

DO you realise that you sound like an absolute loser searching around for sympathy when their losses are totally self inflicted?

No one is saying that what happened is a good or desirable thing. No one is saying anything about brown shirts. No one is saying anything at all about Trump's followers, no matter how deplorable some of them (eg. David Duke) are. No one, least of all you, has the slightest idea who the bombers are or how they vote or which side of the aisle they are on. You are the only person saying "this proves how terrible the Republicans are". No one else is.

You seem to have negative stereotypes imprinted upon your brain, always readily available for you to use as a crutch. You really need to cheer up and get a life. To help you cheer up here's some good news:
Trump is going to get thrashed by Hillary. That's good news for Republicans too as it will mean they don't have to spend the next four years defending an indefensible dirty old man who seems to think that women exist for him to grope and sexually assault at his whim.

And some even better news for you:
Hillary is going to be the next POTUS. So you will have ready made excuse to moan and whinge about, depressing us all including (perhaps most of all) you yourself for four entire whole uninterrupted years. That sounds like depressive's heaven .... tailor made for you.

Too bad you didn't read the first post.

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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 9:35:44 AM   
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Too bad you didn't read the first post.
You'll have to forgive her. She's wildly unsuccessful in both the personal and professional realms, so living vicariously through a corrupt white oligarch is her only means of escape from the wasteland of her life.


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RE: Anyone care about the campaign HQ in NC that was bo... - 10/17/2016 9:41:03 AM   
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"And it wasn't 'blown up'... they say 'firebombed' because it sounds dramatic, but all that happened was a tiny fire that burned itself out after damaging some furniture, supplies, and I guess part of the wall. The building is NOT currently a pile of rubble resembling Tokyo in the final stages of WWII. "

What's your address ? Some people might want to stop by and find out how you really feel about such things from personal experience.

T^T


I'm not defending what happened, just saying that it wasn't some massive explosion.

Firebombing isn't a massive explosion, it is th use of an device of some sort to start a fire.
What would you call a bottle of gasoline with a fuse?
You do know that during the Hungarian revolt in the 50's they destroyed Russian tanks with the same device don't you?
You make it sound like it is on the level of setting fire to a paper bag of dog shit on the front porch.



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