Termyn8or
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Well let me tell you how to have a war.
First you bomb the fuck out of them, then you take the troops and they march across the country and kill every Man, Woman, child, dog, cat, whatever moves.
Until they learn that there will be all kinds of problems. But then if you get paid to solve a problem the most lucrative thing you can do is not solve it and keep yourself employed.
They never wanted to really win. Same with Nam, I knew people who were there.
T^T
OTOH . . . maybe our politicos and generals were so caught up in their own hubris that they failed to acknowledge they needed a superior ground force in order to occupy a nation. Bush was forewarned he would need more than 300,000 troops on the ground to occupy Iraq.
I assume you mean GW Bush, not GHW Bush. Actually GHW Bush was pretty smart. He got the Iraqis out of Kuwait and kicked some ass and got out. Now GW Bush is a different story. The bankers told him the sky is falling because Saddam was going to dump billions of US green on the world and the value of the US dollar would drop a whopping maybe 2 %. What else changed ? Saddam was in power that whole time and did pretty much nothing but run the country. He became a "threat" all the sudden when he switched to the euro. Of course something like that makes "them" nervous because other countries could follow suit. Europe is a big market.
I think GHW Bush had alot of sense but he was loyal to the big boys. But GW Bush ? His gaffes rival those of Donald Trump.
I don''t know where GHW Bush was a pushbutton hero dropping US bombs but he had enough sense not to try to occupy Iraq. He may have studied some history and saw how that shit goes in Nam and Korea, both of which the US failed miserably. And now they have to go back to Mosul(sp) in Iraq because of the mess they made and let ISIS take that area. Does this make sense ?
And Afghanistan, what possible use is it to be there ? They are just breeding more terrorists. And they are there for the poppies, which the Taliban outlaws for opiate production with the death penalty. It is not just the stuff they sneak in on military carriers, it is also the stuff they give people in hospitals. At almost the same price actually. Heroin is dirt cheap now and so much better than ever that people are ODing and dying from it.
So they start insurrections in these countries Milesovic would not agree to certain terms pertaining to the sale of cadmium, a very important element for some nuclear reactors so he had to go so they infiltrated the miner's union and incited them to try to take over the country. then when he responds, as he should they call him a butcher and all this shit.
And Assad did not use gas, Porton Down, an expert in the field says it was not the type he was known to have.
Saddam was installed by the US
The Shah of Iran was installed by the US which led to their theocracy.
And that is not the half of it. You get poison HFCS in your soft drinks because South Americans "never forget" what the US did down there since the early 1900s. If you don't want that shit you need Mexican or Kosher Coke. And now even Italian salad dressing has that shit in it.
I am an isolationist in a way. Or at least a non-interventionalist. These people making war are going to destroy imports. Countries will eventually just stop dealing with the US, and the collapse of the dollar will help as well.
But there is an upside. Necessity is the mother of invention. We will again learn to make fuel injectors and wiper motors for our cars. Our own drywall instead of importing it from China with acid that corrodes the steel studs. Toys without lead based paint.
They don't need tariffs, just keep doing what they're doing and about the same thing will happen. A good part of the world is getting sick of the US meddling in their affairs. And it is always the smaller kids in the playgound. Try that shit in Russia or China. Even in little Israel, they will pass out the Uzis and every Grandmother will get points for getting rid of a couple of US troops.
As far as the OP, the installed Iraqi government plans to go in there and take that city back. The US' role in that would be to assist them. They should just go to the UN but that is pretty much the same thing. The US sends 10,000 troops and the rest of the world sends 10. Well that is an exaggeration but you get the idea.
Gertrude Bell should have STFU and Iraq would probably be three or four countries, as it should be. these "progressives" want to throw people together who do ot want to be together, just like when you have enough money you move to a White neighborhood. There ain't no denying it.
These people think literally "We can reshape the world in our own image".
Well that's not what the Constitution empowers them to do. Anyone who knows shit wants all this shit to stop and stop wasting our money.
And BTW, I am not so sure 300,000 troops on the ground could keep the Iraqis down. Remember Saddam passed out AK-47s to everyone big enough to shoot one. The US occupational forces could not have searched every house top to bottom. What's more,, among the general populace the US troops were nowhere near greeted as liberators as "they" told us they would be.
I guess people don't like a foreign country governing theirs. Go figure.
T^T
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