jlf1961 -> RE: "The Religion of Peace" in action (10/18/2016 8:10:26 PM)
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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick You do understand that Sharia by definition only applies to Muslims, right? You do understand the Islam, by definition, believes everyone is a Muslim, right? Your lack of understanding of the muslim faith, the Quran and how the think of the rest of the world would fill the library of congress, and I am counting the 30,000 square feet of warehouses as well. What I think interesting is that Termy clearly has a more nuanced understanding of the Muslim faith than you do. When Muslims impose Sharia Law, they intend for it to apply to everybody. Especially given the penalty for apostasy is death. Really? Lets see, Saudi Arabia has sharia law, and a large population of christians who arent stoned, murdered or imprisoned.... And my Muslim friends have always referred to me as a christian, not a Muslim. And according to the Quran (I suggest you buy a copy and actually read it) the people of the book (i.e Muslims, Christians, Jews) all go to heaven because we all follow the same god. True followers of Islam also know something that is really strange, when you consider the fact that Islamic extremists kill Jews, Christians, fellow Muslims, are all descended from Abraham, the first Patriarch, and therefore (at least in the Semitic races of the middle east i.e Arabs and Jews) which basically means that they are killing family members, and doing so without a trial lands you in hell. Basically, you and Termy know just the bullshit that everyone uses to justify restricting and out right prejudiced against the members of the Muslim faith. If all that bullshit were true, ISIS would be about 1.6 billion strong and the only way to stop the holy war is using nukes.... However, ISIS members are Salafi (google it) and consider all other Muslims apostates, they are also the smallest sect of Islam. Hezbollah is a shia terrorist group that is primarily anti Jew, which is strange because in Hezbollah controlled regions, christians are considered 'people of the book' and given equal protection under sharia law, without some of the more extreme sentences, since christians do not practice Islam. Al Qaeda is primarily from the Sunni sect, which holds to the teachings of Islam from 1400 years ago, and is considered the most violent of the Islamic sects. The Shia-Sunni schism is based on who should have been next in line of succession to Muhammad in 632 CE, and it really got nasty after Battle of Karbala, in which Hussein ibn Ali and his household were killed by the ruling Umayyad Caliph Yazid I. Sunnis for the most part accept the Prophet's decree of peace to the people of the book, however as to how exactly that peace is to be maintained and administered in Sunni controlled countries is a point of contention inside the Sunni leadership. Fundamentalist think that for a person of the book to have full citizenship, they should convert completely to Islam, while moderates dont see it that way, which is why there are Sunni groups killing other Sunni groups. And none of them agree on the importance of the Hadith. These are 'reports' of the sayings of the Prophet, however all of them are taken out of context. Moderate and progressive Muslims (the world majority of the Islamic population) from all sects feel that the Hadith is but a guide to refer a person back to the Quran to actually see what the Prophet was talking about. Now as for Sharia law, nobody seems to see just where it came from. Everyone proclaims it is uniquely Muslim, but it is not. Sharia law is taken straight from the Law of Moses, which if Jews were to follow to the letter, they would probably exceed the Islamic terrorists in family blood spilled. For instance the only punishment under the law of Moses for a disrespectful child was being stoned to death. Muhammad build on the old testament, which is part of the required reading for any devote Muslim. Muslims believe Jesus Christ was but one more prophet and for Muslims, Jesus is a Muslim (hence Christians being children of the book.) And since all of the above is a very basic explanation of the Muslim situation, and all of it completely contrary to the great all Muslims are terrorists myth, the odds are that your (and termy's grasp of the situation, and further educating yourselves on the truth about the basic Muslim belief structure) is about the same as you being struck on the head by a large enough to survive the passage through the atmosphere without disintegrating. Islam, like Christianity IS a religion of peace, and like any religion, has been perverted by a very small minority into a religion of intolerance and violence (kind of like the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the wars between the protestants and Catholics, Christian extremists who support the segregation and subjugation of all non white races- Jesus was closer to black than white by the way)
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