thompsonx
Posts: 23322
Joined: 10/1/2006
Status: offline
|
ORIGINAL: Kaliko
Well, a couple of things here. First of all, as I always do, I will argue against Googling something versus bringing it up on a discussion board. He brought it up here because he wants to have a discussion.
Why do you believe that discussing from a position of ignorance is worthwhile?
Now, that being said, I do understand why you and others might think at this point that his motive is not to have a discussion at all. Fair enough (though I disagree). But personally, I'd rather the discussion.
Once again what is the value of a discussion based on uninformed opinion?
I have Googled it. What I generally see is that feminism "breaks men free from the restraints of patriarchy" or the like. In fact, Peon, I looked somewhat closely at one of the search results from the link you provided to RM. There are a few impacts of feminism on men that I think had merit, one of which I'll mention in a moment, but there were also some that made me roll my eyes, such as "It encourages men to rethink outdated masculinity standards" and "It demanded that the media change its representation of men." These are really reaching, and not necessarily something that could definitely be called positive, in my opinion.
How so?
I did look a little more closely at the Rape is Rape campaign. It does seem, with the little research I did, that including males in the definition was part of the campaign from the get-go. Regardless of whether one agrees with the definition the FBI now uses, yes, feminists did push for that.
But here's the thing. (And here is where discussion can come in handy rather than Google - because we all know that we can find anything we want to find on the internet.
Only the dishonest will try to validate their opinion with false narative...which is what nicky and awareness do on a regular bassis. Why do you approve of that sort of intellectual dishonesty?
I'm more interested to see what you and others have to say about this, not what I can find about this.)
If one is intellectually honest they will support their opinions with facts and not other opinions.
It seems to me that the benefits of feminism to men are incidental.
Being a horndawg I do not consider increased access to willing pussy to be "incidental".
If men benefit from something feminists have fought for, it is alongside benefits for women.
Perhaps there is a reason it is called feminism. You have no profile so we have no clue, other than your posts, as to what your back ground is. The facts,which can be checked on your hated google, show quite clearly that women have not and do not share equally the priviledge accorded to men.
Okay. I'm told that feminism is about equality for all genders,
That is your opinion not reality. Feminism is about women ataining equality with men. What equality do you seek for men that they are denied by women?
Feminists have also fought for issues that are strictly for women.
At the risk of repeating myself perhaps that is why it is called feminism.
I'll reference here again that ridiculous issue in Florida in which feminists argued against men having equal footing when starting off a child custody determination, during which the clear message was to protect women and children, not men.
Google is not your enemy, unless you just do not want to know the facts. Google could acquaint you with what the rules for custody were prior to day before yesterday. Until you understand what was, how is it possible for you to discuss rationally what is and what should be?
There is also the push for girls to have more exposure to STEM subjects and other traditionally male studies, but I don't see a similarly powerful campaign to increase enrollment of boys in nursing, childcare, elementary education, etc.
Why should they? Wouldn't that be a men's issue? If men wish to persue those jobs why would you expect women to waste their time pimping it?
Feminists have opposed male conscription in the U.S, yes. Decades ago, they opposed it because the jobs they could fulfill within the military wouldn't be good enough for them, and decades after that they opposed it because the implication that women were the homemakers was sexist. Today, they oppose it because women are now threatened with it. (Interesting, I found this from 2015 regarding Norwegian conscription. The argument is basically that women should be treated equally, but not that equally.)
Is it possible that not all feminist believe absolutely the same thing. For example it is entirely that a repubcrat woman would vote for trump for reasons other than his mysogony?
Is it possible that a demopub woman would vote for bill's wife for reasons other than her sitting down when she pees?
|
RE: What does feminism do for men? - 
Profile
New Messages
No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages
Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages
Locked w/o New Messages
Post New Thread