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Edwird -> Millenials- I am extremely pumped (10/23/2016 2:34:37 AM)
Not just because a number of my nieces and nephews be among them, but ... OK, well, maybe unduly to that. Just came home from my niece's wedding, and after talking with her friends and their friends and ... I'm just 'pumped,' all I can say. Imagine not having the rug pulled out from under you by way of a president and a major civil rights leader and another potential pres candidate shot in plain sight as you are only just getting a notion of things. And not having the Ramones or the Sex Pistols as palliative. Just imagine. The thing I am most sanguine and encouraged about is that I've heard not a word indicating that they give a flying fuck about whatever is going on in the middle east. I did, however, overhear my nephew explaining to his 25 yr. senior bank cyber security father in law a bunch of 'deep dark' internet security stuff that actually made the usually smarmy asshole (such unfortunate in-law being from from Philly, no surprise) eventually, shut up and listen for a change. The nephew did eventually turn to me and whined, just minimally, about the price of rent, etc, maybe to tease me out about whatever 'economic' explanation there might be for it. I pride myself on not even mentioning to him the great disparity in social manners that drives any socially inclined person from the north to the south to begin with, but only pointed out instead that such migration exists. Maybe because if one considers the disparity in purchasing power parity, $80-120,00 in NYC might not be all that it seems. And that all these fuckers keep moving to Charlotte in thousands, by whatever inclination, thereby raising his rent, by the supply/demand thing. And my marriage-ceremony niece looked fabulous, and afterwards dragged me to all her friends for introduction (half of whom I knew already), and she is a fabulous artist too. Not the most talented, but good at the 'big picture' thing, which I never was in my realm of music. And a tremendous person, and a beautiful spirit, which I saw from her years ago. I had a great time tonight, hope you did too. Thank you eversomuch, you wonderful 'millenials.'

dcnovice -> RE: Millenials- I am extremely pumped (10/23/2016 12:54:32 PM)
FR So glad to hear you had a great time! For me, it's been amazing to see the difference between my nephew's coming out and my own. [:)]

DesFIP -> RE: Millenials- I am extremely pumped (10/23/2016 6:00:28 PM)
Can I offer the thought that it's because you led the way? That your family had to consider accepting you or not having you in their lives? And because of you, they are able not to have to go through that and can simply accept your nephew.

Edwird -> RE: Millenials- I am extremely pumped (10/25/2016 4:42:42 PM)
On that note ... Even though no one in my immediate family nor among the nieces and nephews are gay/lez, my just-wedded niece, indirect subject of the OP, had her long-time lesbian friend perform the ceremony, and not any of the several 80-somethings walked out on it. All on board, in fact. Let's hear it for the 80-somethings! I later talked for good length to a guy whom I am fairly certain is 'gay' about our mutual experience in music theory classes (though decades apart), I interrogated him about how he grabbed all the wedding music (he was the sound guy) from whatever web service. Once he mentioned that his big interest was in singing, within a group, I pointed out to him that something like Opera Carolina would be something to investigate. Now, if this convo were taking place 20-30 years ago, it would be understandable that he might take it as some encouragement on my part for him to join a group of 'his own kind' (which, most any male opera chorus is usually more than half gay members). But actually that wasn't the intent. I heard him say that singing in a group is what he liked, I pointed to one option to that end, and that's all there was to it. But the salient point here is that that's how he took it! Not that I was trying to 'find accommodation' for his lifestyle or sexual orientation or any of that stuff. Just a direction for him to seek his interest. We aren't 100% of the way there just yet, but ... He also heard the 70 and 80-somethings complimenting him on his efforts. The point is, he wasn't 'surprised' by any of it. He actually took it for granted to be treated like a 'normal' person. As did the lesbian performing the wedding service who got great compliments from the same older crowd. They just take in stride. Now that's progress.

Edwird -> RE: Millenials- I am extremely pumped (10/25/2016 5:01:44 PM)
I remember my 'first cousin, once removed' (i.e., my mom's first cousin), he being of homosexual orientation, one time saying to the family about his and his partner's church-going practices; "Welll .. we sing at my church (Catholic) one week, then we sing at his church (Presbyterian) the next week." (deep Macon, Ga. accent. I bet he drove them buggers with that accent when he taught math at that college in Pennsylvania). Notice he didn't say anything about 'attending mass' or any of that. All they cared about was the opportunity for singing. His mom was a really good piano player and taught music in Georgia schools, his dad had a great voice, so no wonder.

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