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PyrotheClown -> Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/23/2016 1:43:20 PM)
Yup,I'm back. Got tired of haunting freeway underpasses, so I decided to drop by my favorite kink bent forum's. Now I'm about as qualified to regurgitate my political views as the rest of ya,but it's been a while since I last ranted here and I have had a wild and raunchy election year's worth of obsessive observations that's been thoroughly digested regurgitated fermented and digested all over again,so pardon the mess.... First off,I don't get it. Why the fucking fuckity fuck would anyone vote for Trump.... I get it,Hillary is a stuffy corrupt wall street stooge, a conniving insider who's been at the ground floor for most of the really bad decisions that's been made by the establishment for the last 25 years.She's as shady as Kissinger and as old fashion nanny state as Thatcher,but this is nothing new and Trump is one of the IDIOTS who backed her in 08. Does he really have better judgement then her if he trusted all those bad decisions she made and still backed her ... People say "well Trump has said some bad things,but Hillary has Done some bad things" Gawd dammit people,he DOES AND SAYS STUPID THINGS The only reason the press focuses on what he says and not what he does is cause he Says alot of things and Doesn't do much other then sue,swindle and whine. He's had the authority to miss manage like Hillary has,that's no reason to trust him. His judgement hasn't had an effect on america other then a handful of uncomfortable beautiful ladies, a few dozen unpaid employees and thousands of unhappy investors. In the debates,when confronted bout how he used Chinese steel and Mexican labor,he responded to Hillary "that she should have stoped him" Later in the same debate,he said he was "Pro free trade and against NAFTA" ..... I'm a fucking idiot and even I'm awestruck as such ironic stupidity. Free trade=Chinese steel=NAFTA.............if you stop of hinder some one from using Chinese steel then it's not free trade..........FUCK He doesn't know the first thing bout these basic economic issues and he's the "Successful Business man".... I know the income gap is a major issue,but can we get a real Robber Barron and not a silver spooned retard as the nominee,I think I'd actually feel safer if they were in charge.... But I gotta give credit where it's due,at least the republican party had enough respect for their little monster Movement as to not strangle it to death... That's right,I'm looking at you democratic party. Instead of harnessing the populist Bernie movement and focusing their efforts at winning the house and or senate,the democratic party decided to gut itself so it could nominate it's tumor... They've spent so much time and money polishing Clinton's turds that they'll be lucky to keep the seats that they have. So best case scenario for us liberal Commie hippie types is that Clinton get's into office so she can be a lame duck for four years....great..... . . . . Don't get me wrong,I don't completely hate Hillary,I just don't like her all that much,she'd make a great speaker of the house. Shes conservative as all get out,so she'd actually be able to get some bipartisan work done if not in the republican "hate her cause she not on our side"cross hairs. She's incredibly intelligent and driven,well connected,ect. It's just that,well,her judgement is shitty and she's corrupt as hell . The one good(ish) thing I can say bout the possibility of Trumps victory is the delicious irony that the NSA Monster the Obama and Hillary helped create might be unleashed against them. I'll probably be too busy protecting my food stash from the flooding /nuclear holocaust refugees to laugh much,but you gotta appreciate the little things lol Nice lil fear mongering slip there,I love how people are bat shit Scared of Arab terrorists and Mexican cartels and other such brown people phobias while mocking black lives matter activists gun control advocates and global warming warnings while completely ignoring the fact that the real solutions to both these problems are reciprocal. Alotta folks like to freak out bout the cartels and illegal migrants coming over to take yer job,rape yer wife and shoot yer dog,ect. While 20% of are jails are hispanic(and that's counting all of them,not just the ones who crossed the border,but the ones who's parents,grand parents,or other crossed the border and even those few who's grandparents got crossed by the border)A whopping 70% of the guns used by the cartels in mexico come from us....Oops,guess our little gun loop holes are cause'n quiet a problem over there,better secure that border,or perhaps we should at the very lease secure our guns a bit.Nothing drastic,no gun laws forbidding clip sizes,calibers,stocks,mods,what ever,just laws that make buying and selling guns more like cars.Let me extrapolate,ya buy a car off some private citizen,friend,family,stranger,what ever,you gotta register it at the DMV. You still have the car a year later,you gotta take it by the DMV to say that you still have it....Why not treat guns the same way?Well,the NRA doesn't care if it's harder for Criminals or law abiding citizens to get guns cause they don't actually represent the Right to bare arms,they represent the right of gun manufactures to Sell as many guns as possible and have helped shape our federal gun laws to do so.If the laws focused on getting the GUNS the CRIMINALS USE,the CRIMINALS WILL HAVE LESS GUNS,not none,but less,which means less police officers shot by dead beats and less police officers scared shitless of certain neighbor hoods and situations which means less lawless neighborhoods which means less crime,less dead black people ,ect . Freaked out bout Muslim extremist states,stop selling guns to them and take away their funding... How do you do that? Glad you asked,First,stop selling guns to Saudi Arabia. We spent alota money and time to arm the "nice" rebel factions in the middle east...ok,not great but a complete waste of time considering that Saudi Arabia is our number one arms buyer,and what are they doing with em,their giving them to any Sunni faction willing to take them.....huh........Maybe we should stop selling Saudi Arabia weapons............ Why stop there,the main way Isis funds it's self is through oil money. "Well we're fraking our selves oil independent,stop yer commie whining"I hear some of you say,well that's fine and dandy(ignoring all the environmental impacts,but I'll save that for another rant")But that doesn't do shit bout the Asian and European Oil market,which is where most of their oil goes. How bout bio diesel,how bout a international cryptocurrency backed by bio diesel made from Algae. It can use sewage water,it can suck up excess CO2 directly from such sources as factories,it can be grown just bout anywhere with sunlight and if it's a closed system,it uses less water then any other crop......it's fucking perfect cause it wont just make us oil independent,but the whole developed world oil independent. The excess material from processing can also be used as animal feed.....but nope,we're gonna probably spend more money and time to bomb the shit outta the middle east till there's peace.....Like eating to be skinny or spending to save....... I could rant on and on and on,but Ya'll probably tuned out already lol I'll just end and say that If Trump wins,it'll be because we deserve a president Trump,not that Trump deserves to be president And if Hillary wins,We get what They paid for.

PyrotheClown -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/23/2016 1:55:55 PM)
another fun fact,Mexican cartels are starting to shy away from the drug trade,and they're going after the pipelines for funding,which has led to some really horrible accidents down there.. The rise in heroin is due to online trafficking(silk road,ect),mexico doesn't produce much heroin,most of it comes from Afghanistan,Pakistan,China,Russia,ect...

Real0ne -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/23/2016 3:27:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown Why the fucking fuckity fuck would anyone vote for Trump.... People say "well Trump has said some bad things,but Hillary has Done some bad things" you dont let criminals own guns but you'll elect them for el prezzie dante! a vote for trump puts hillary one step closer to prison for her crimes. a vote for hillary sanctions the ever growing criminal syndicate.

PyrotheClown -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/23/2016 4:06:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown Why the fucking fuckity fuck would anyone vote for Trump.... People say "well Trump has said some bad things,but Hillary has Done some bad things" you dont let criminals own guns but you'll elect them for el prezzie dante! a vote for trump puts hillary one step closer to prison for her crimes. a vote for hillary sanctions the ever growing criminal syndicate. Both Trump and Hillary are criminals that's like saying a bullet in a crip is on less crip, a bullet in a blood is bad blood spilt. The only difference is Hillary is at least successful at it

PyrotheClown -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/23/2016 4:07:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown Why the fucking fuckity fuck would anyone vote for Trump.... People say "well Trump has said some bad things,but Hillary has Done some bad things" you dont let criminals own guns but you'll elect them for el prezzie dante! a vote for trump puts hillary one step closer to prison for her crimes. a vote for hillary sanctions the ever growing criminal syndicate. Both Trump and Hillary are criminals that's like saying a bullet in a crip is on less crip, a bullet in a blood is bad blood spilt. The only difference is Hillary is at least successful at it I'd also like to point out that I'm voting for neither I'm probably gonna vote for the same woman I voted for four years ago,Jill Stein

MrRodgers -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/24/2016 5:32:41 PM)
All of this is merely conversation and incidental to the coming 4TH Reich in th US, the merger of the the US, Canada and Mexico, the adoption of the Amero to replace the all 3 sovereigns. Especially given all of the talk of the 2nd amend and rigged shit. I am now convinced all of this could actually happen in my life time. And any president once elected will do what he OR she needs to do...to stay alive.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/24/2016 5:52:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown First off,I don't get it. Why the fucking fuckity fuck would anyone vote for Trump.... I get it,Hillary is a stuffy corrupt wall street stooge, a conniving insider who's been at the ground floor for most of the really bad decisions that's been made by the establishment for the last 25 years.She's as shady as Kissinger and as old fashion nanny state as Thatcher,but this is nothing new and Trump is one of the IDIOTS who backed her in 08. So, do you get it or not? [8D] There are people who hate the idea of Hillary Clinton, and her ways so much that they see Donald Trump is a better candidate than she. On top of that, Independents, Greens, and Libertarians don't get the air time and mention they so richly need, to show people that there are more than just two candidates. So, you have people who would vote for a rutabaga before they'd vote for Hillary, and the GOP not being able to find someone other than Mr. Rutabaga Head to carry their standard. Kinda makes one wonder if the GOP thinks of their standard. Maybe it's worth as much as that banner cheerleaders hold for the football team to break through; fun to look at and cheer about, and, inevitably, toss in the trash?

Lucylastic -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/24/2016 7:24:36 PM)
Hey Pyro:) Nice to see you back:)

Termyn8or -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/25/2016 7:09:07 AM)
FR If Clinton gets a democrat congress we are in deep shit. Whatever kind of congress Trump gets is not going to be very friendly to him no matter what. Most of what the government does they fuck up. Therefore it is best if they do as little as possible. Can't make it much plainer than that. T^T

tweakabelle -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/25/2016 7:47:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri On top of that, Independents, Greens, and Libertarians don't get the air time and mention they so richly need, to show people that there are more than just two candidates. We have had a duopoly here for many years. In the past decade or so, this monolith has begun to splinter and we have seen the emergence of smaller parties at the national level. In fact the minor parties and independents control the balance of power in the Senate, and the Federal Govt is forced to negotiate with them to get its legislation through. This came about after years of local level activism and alternative parties getting themselves elected to city and regional councils (out first tier of govt, the others are State and Federal). So my question is are US Greens and Libertarians active at a local level? Do their candidates stand for election at this level and if so are they successful? I never hear what happens at this level of US politics so please forgive my ignorance. But if people want to smash the GOP-Dem duopoly, then this is one strategy that has delivered a measure of success here and the expectation is that this trend will continue to grow in the future.

Termyn8or -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/25/2016 10:25:56 AM)
"So my question is are US Greens and Libertarians active at a local level? " I don't know much about the green platform but the libertarians have one fatal flaw - they are against regulation. Also to become a member of their party you have to swear to non-violence. This is the US. You think if 100 million people marched on the whitehouse that the politicians would just surrender ? Nope, they would be on the phone to their generals in five seconds to "restore order". Libertarians don't want he federal government regulating, but once a business gets so big it needs to be regulated, and regulated so tightly nobody wants to do it. However small; enterprises should be left alone. Like they shut down farm to fork because the food was not at "serving temperature". Well what about salads, you want them heated up ? It is a bunch of selectively enforced bullshit and that is something that should be doe away with, but that doesn't mean to scrap all health regulations on restaurants. Some of those people are real slobs. I wash my hands profusely when making food for others, but when I cook for myself I don't care. I am getting my own germs. And others, if they cook for me I want them to be fairly clean, at least their hands and especially when dealing with raw stuff like salads. But that is not the half of it. Even democrats, seen as regulatory crazoids, will not regulate the banks. What happened i 2008 could easily happen again. Big business, ever hear of the Monsanto Protection Act ? Here, when you talk to people in business who do not blog their personal business or have websites as soapboxes you hear all kinds of horror stories. the little guy invents something and the big guy patents it and prevents him from selling his own invention. Maybe that's his fault but their attitude is "So sue us". He should have taken it to court and proved prior art, but that would not enable him to patent it, it would just prevent big guy from patenting it so it is up for grabs. The republicans want to regulate what you can do with your body, the democrats seem to want to regulate what color you can paint your house. But neither one of them wants to regulate big business. Why ? Because guess who donates to their campaigns, and in congress who keeps on paying them ? At the other place someone started a thread that people are sick and tired of the status quo and that is why Trump got nominated. That is also why Brits voted for Brexit. Also that is why the Scots voted to leave the UK. Not just the EU, the UK. We are all sick of it. They take more and more, and it has to stop somewhere because there are a bunch of us with nothing left but our guns. And when people get hungry they are going to find out, like the Czar, like the USSR, like Germany. Oh Germany, Godwin's law strikes. How did Hitler get into power ? Because the banks, aka you know who, fucked that country out of so much money there was no hiding it. Swiss bank accounts and jewelry where you need a wheelbarrel full of money to buy a loaf of bread. Well they're pulling the same shit here folks, but new and improved. What Thomas Jefferson said has come true, we will wake up homeless because of inflation and deflation. This is what people do not seem to understand, the housing bubble and collapse was PLANNED. And it worked perfectly. It transferred alot of wealth out of the hands of the people who worked for it into those who didn't. What is that called ? But you are right, we need to start at the local level. We need to meet at halls ad whatever, like bars, or churches that rent out their basement for AA meetings and shit like that. If we can get a third party and actually elect a few people that would sort of establish it. Start with city councilmen, then mayors, then state legislators and then governors. Then come congressmen and then senators. Then finally, President. See, in this country it would do no good to elect just one or two good people to senate or the house because they would be voted down, their bills would not even be considered by the majority, they would be lame ducks in a stream full of alligators. But if something gets established enough on a state level then maybe we can ooze enough of them in there to get something done. A third party can stop a veto override for example, or facilitate one. It is not impossible, it is just a real bitch. And she's in heat. T^T

Awareness -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/25/2016 11:20:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown Yup,I'm back. Got tired of haunting freeway underpasses, so I decided to drop by my favorite kink bent forum's. Now I'm about as qualified to regurgitate my political views as the rest of ya,but it's been a while since I last ranted here and I have had a wild and raunchy election year's worth of obsessive observations that's been thoroughly digested regurgitated fermented and digested all over again,so pardon the mess.... First off,I don't get it. Why the fucking fuckity fuck would anyone vote for Trump.... I get it,Hillary is a stuffy corrupt wall street stooge, a conniving insider who's been at the ground floor for most of the really bad decisions that's been made by the establishment for the last 25 years.She's as shady as Kissinger and as old fashion nanny state as Thatcher,but this is nothing new and Trump is one of the IDIOTS who backed her in 08. Does he really have better judgement then her if he trusted all those bad decisions she made and still backed her ... People vote for Trump for a few reasons. There's a large community of disenfranchised voters who've come to distrust the establishment in all its forms. Trump's lack of polish effectively positions him as an outsider to the prevailing oligarchy and thus picks up all those voters who don't trust politicians of either stripe. The other problem is the increasingly totalitarian outlook of the Democrats. The other day, I suddenly realised what the virtue-signalling of the identity politics set reminded me of. It reminds me of the professions of loyalty to the Party by citizens in a communist state. It has exactly the same style of stilted expression within a set of approved templates. It is a classic example of Orwellian Doublethink. So when the CEO of PwC posts a self-serving screed on PwC being a HeForShe corporate champion, I was most amused to see the commenters ask him if PwC was consequently going to stop doing business with regimes that oppress women and kill homosexuals. The hypocrisy of corporations in pandering to identity politics on one hand, while profiting from doing business with oppressive Islamic regimes on the other, is an exact match to the hypocrisy of the left's obsession with approved modes of thought and speech on hand while looking the other way at the crimes of Islamic regimes on the other - usually against those very same people the left are allegedly championing. Republicans who really don't want Trump are presented with a bought and paid for corporate lackey as an alternative. To make matters worse, she champions all of these imaginary causes such as the gender pay gap and rape culture which no sane individual takes seriously AND she wants to open the floodgates and let in more Islamic immigrants...... because diversity. Islam is pretty fucking incompatible with Western values, so a lot of people really aren't up for that. All in all, Trump's a fucking child, but Hillary is a terrifying alternative.

Awareness -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/25/2016 11:21:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers All of this is merely conversation and incidental to the coming 4TH Reich in th US, the merger of the the US, Canada and Mexico, the adoption of the Amero to replace the all 3 sovereigns. Especially given all of the talk of the 2nd amend and rigged shit. I am now convinced all of this could actually happen in my life time. And any president once elected will do what he OR she needs to do...to stay alive. Not a snowflake's chance in hell. People are far too comfortable and unwilling to give up that comfort for political causes.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/27/2016 6:26:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri On top of that, Independents, Greens, and Libertarians don't get the air time and mention they so richly need, to show people that there are more than just two candidates. We have had a duopoly here for many years. In the past decade or so, this monolith has begun to splinter and we have seen the emergence of smaller parties at the national level. In fact the minor parties and independents control the balance of power in the Senate, and the Federal Govt is forced to negotiate with them to get its legislation through. This came about after years of local level activism and alternative parties getting themselves elected to city and regional councils (out first tier of govt, the others are State and Federal). So my question is are US Greens and Libertarians active at a local level? Do their candidates stand for election at this level and if so are they successful? I never hear what happens at this level of US politics so please forgive my ignorance. But if people want to smash the GOP-Dem duopoly, then this is one strategy that has delivered a measure of success here and the expectation is that this trend will continue to grow in the future. Well, where I am, it's usually about one faction of Democrats fighting against another faction of Democrats, and the Republicans still can't win City Mayor. I think there are two or 3 City Council members who are R's with the other 9 D's. The County Commissioners are split 2-1 (D-R). I live in a heavily blue county. There are fringe candidates aplenty here, but none of them really get anywhere. Some, thankfully.... "God's Chosen Candidate" for Toledo Mayor (2013) https://youtu.be/A01SRDFyIAA Same candidate, same year, "rebuking" a radio DJ after her radio interview https://youtu.be/FKiFMxwEnks

tweakabelle -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/27/2016 6:43:43 AM)
[:D] How did Trump miss out on Opal as a running mate? Those two were made for each other. It would have been a marriage made in Heaven

WhoreMods -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/27/2016 7:14:48 AM)
The circus peanut seems to lack foresight and planning. Bit surprised you haven't noticed if you've been following his campaign?

DesideriScuri -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/27/2016 11:07:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle [:D] How did Trump miss out on Opal as a running mate? Those two were made for each other. It would have been a marriage made in Heaven Rumor (that I'm starting right now) is that he did consider her, but her hair was too much better than his, so...

DomStrictMale -> RE: Just another pointless political rant ..... (10/27/2016 11:39:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown First off,I don't get it. Why the fucking fuckity fuck would anyone vote for Trump.... I get it,Hillary is a stuffy corrupt wall street stooge, a conniving insider who's been at the ground floor for most of the really bad decisions that's been made by the establishment for the last 25 years.She's as shady as Kissinger and as old fashion nanny state as Thatcher,but this is nothing new and Trump is one of the IDIOTS who backed her in 08. So, do you get it or not? [8D] There are people who hate the idea of Hillary Clinton, and her ways so much that they see Donald Trump is a better candidate than she. On top of that, Independents, Greens, and Libertarians don't get the air time and mention they so richly need, to show people that there are more than just two candidates. So, you have people who would vote for a rutabaga before they'd vote for Hillary, and the GOP not being able to find someone other than Mr. Rutabaga Head to carry their standard. Kinda makes one wonder if the GOP thinks of their standard. Maybe it's worth as much as that banner cheerleaders hold for the football team to break through; fun to look at and cheer about, and, inevitably, toss in the trash? Well stated. No way in hell I would ever vote for Hillary or Trump. Period.

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