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mnottertail -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 5:02:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
6 of 10 believe Obama is a secret Muslim.

Michelle Obama makes me believe Obama is not a Muslim. But he does feel a kinship to it, as his paternal father is a Muslim.
Obama joked on Jimmy Kimmel that even after he finish being President, he will not go through a metal detector or be padded down!
I didn't find that funny. Infact, that made me think, WTF? Why not?


You are simply confused by English it being your second language. Find your dictionary and learn the word joked.




Lucylastic -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 5:30:39 AM)

Sheesh thick as two short planks,

Greta

Ex presidents have security details. so he wont have to..
But he WAS making a point that he will never again be profiled, pulled aside, questioned, patted down simply because he is brown/not white/?muslim.
Ex presidents dont become "normal" citizens.




tweakabelle -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 6:42:34 AM)

Today's Guardian has a very interesting analysis of the Trump phenomenon by noted journalist George Monbiot:
"Democracy in the US is so corrupted by money that it is no longer recognisable as democracy. You can kick individual politicians out of office, but what do you do when the entire structure of politics is corrupt? Turn to the demagogue who rages into this political vacuum, denouncing the forces he exemplifies. The problem is not, as Trump claims, that the election will be stolen by ballot rigging. It is that the entire electoral process is stolen from the American people before they get anywhere near casting their votes. When Trump claims that the little guy is being screwed by the system, he’s right. The only problem is that he is the system."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/26/donald-trump-outsider-system-elections#comment-86222937




Greta75 -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 6:45:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Sheesh thick as two short planks,

Greta

Ex presidents have security details. so he wont have to..
But he WAS making a point that he will never again be profiled, pulled aside, questioned, patted down simply because he is brown/not white/?muslim.
Ex presidents dont become "normal" citizens.


I don't think that is what he is saying!
There is nothing wrong with being pulled aside to be questioned and patted down. I get that at Aussie airports all the time. Big deal. They are just doing their jobs.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 7:07:29 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Sheesh thick as two short planks,

Greta

Ex presidents have security details. so he wont have to..
But he WAS making a point that he will never again be profiled, pulled aside, questioned, patted down simply because he is brown/not white/?muslim.
Ex presidents dont become "normal" citizens.


I don't think that is what he is saying!
There is nothing wrong with being pulled aside to be questioned and patted down. I get that at Aussie airports all the time. Big deal. They are just doing their jobs.

That's EXACTLY what he is saying, Greta.

Ex-presidents become part of an exclusive elite club.
In many respects, they are treated better than royalty.

Jeeez, you are sooo naive and obtuse at times.




Lucylastic -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 8:03:58 AM)

nah its willful...makes all the difference




MrRodgers -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 8:14:36 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
6 of 10 believe Obama is a secret Muslim.

Michelle Obama makes me believe Obama is not a Muslim. But he does feel a kinship to it, as his paternal father is a Muslim.
Obama joked on Jimmy Kimmel that even after he finish being President, he will not go through a metal detector or be padded down!
I didn't find that funny. Infact, that made me think, WTF? Why not?


He'll have sec. serv. escort.




MrRodgers -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 8:16:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Sheesh thick as two short planks,

Greta

Ex presidents have security details. so he wont have to..
But he WAS making a point that he will never again be profiled, pulled aside, questioned, patted down simply because he is brown/not white/?muslim.
Ex presidents dont become "normal" citizens.


Yep, missed this.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 2:08:15 PM)

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In other words, Trump is not some black swan, whose unique cocktail of charisma, telegenicism and political fluidity landed him the nomination. His nomination is the product of years of race-baiting, conspiracy-theorizing, expert-delegitimizing right-wing media nonsense, which Republican politicians aided and abetted because it seemed politically expedient at the time. They helped the alt-right create the alternate reality that made a Trump nomination inevitable.

Yeah, that about sums it up.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 2:12:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

Trump isn't a product of the right. He's the product of an overall failed government.


He's more a product of society than government.

Actually, it is both.




bounty44 -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 3:55:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tj444
...Yeah, I get Fox Business vids on my Youtube and man, some of the BS crap they come up with is amazing.. and yeah, too many people believe this shite and drink the kool-aid.. how can they be so stupid? its like they have turned their brain off and have let someone else do the "thinking" for them..


shouldn't be too much of a problem then for you to post, not the videos themselves, but rather a score of exact quotes of that "bs crap?"




DaddySatyr -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 9:51:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

He'll have sec. serv. escort.



Actually, unless something has changed recently, that won't be for the rest of his life. Slick Willy and the anti-Christ were the last family guaranteed lifetime S.S. protection.



Michael




mnottertail -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/26/2016 10:07:11 PM)

The bill from 1994 was replaced in 2013 lifetime protection is back on.





truckinslave -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/30/2016 12:52:38 AM)

Is there anything the gummint says that you disbelieve?




thompsonx -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/30/2016 4:41:11 AM)


ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Islam has no place in America.


well there goes that freedom of religion thingie.




WhoreMods -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/30/2016 7:38:12 AM)

FR:
Anybody have any idea why a babbling mental incontinent like the tiny-handed shitweasel is proving so popular with rightist conspiracy theorists?
You'd think the past associations with people called Clinton, a "business" career consisting of keeping bankers sweet in case he needs to declare bankruptcy and his credentials as a plutocrat (about the only box he doesn't tick there is the Jewish one, really), the fawning for Putin and Arabs (the circus peanut's business in Saudi Arabia and Dubai seems dependent on him kissing plenty of middle eastern arse: perhaps the nasty taste it left in his mouth is why he's been pissing and moaning about moslems on the election trail), and similar ideological lapses would make the conspiracy nuts less keen on him, wouldn't you?
Why does he get a free pass on this stuff? Is it because the cheeto-faced, ferret headed shitgibbon brags about not paying his taxes and this endears him to the sort of libertarian who has fantasies about being able to go Galt one day?




Real0ne -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/30/2016 7:41:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

If the GOP wants to save the party and ever win the white house again it will have to:

.....go to war with right-wing media. That is, they need to dismantle the media machine persuading their base to believe completely bonkers, bigoted garbage. It is, after all, the right-wing radio, TV and Internet fever swamps that have gotten them into this mess, that have led to massive misinformation, disinformation and cynicism among Republican voters. And draining those fever swamps is the only way to get them out of it.

For example:

7 of 10 repubs still very seriously doubt or completely disbelieve that Obama was born in the US.

6 of 10 believe Obama is a secret Muslim.

5 of 10 believe that global warming is a hoax concocted by climate scientists.

7 of 10 believe government economic data are fabricated.

5 of 10 don’t trust that votes will be counted accurately in the November election.

Get this:

Some small fraction actually believe that presidential elections are determined by Instagram followers.
HERE

Data trutherism, claims that the economy is worse than the official numbers indicate, that polls are “skewed” to favor Democrats, that hurricane forecasts are exaggerated to scare the public into fearing climate change, riled the base, even as it sowed a deadly distrust in any impartial metric of the nation’s economic, political, social or climatological health.

Never-ending witch hunts against Planned Parenthood, climate scientists, Hillary Clinton similarly galvanized supporters in the near term but increased bloodlust for punishment of political enemies in the long run.

In other words, Trump is not some black swan, whose unique cocktail of charisma, telegenicism and political fluidity landed him the nomination. His nomination is the product of years of race-baiting, conspiracy-theorizing, expert-delegitimizing right-wing media nonsense, which Republican politicians aided and abetted because it seemed politically expedient at the time. They helped the alt-right create the alternate reality that made a Trump nomination inevitable.

And unless the party establishment grapples with its own complicity in misinforming, misleading and frightening the masses, it’s doomed to field more Donald Trumps in the future.

HERE




but its not, these frauds have long been proven and swept under the carpet.








Awareness -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/30/2016 11:00:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

If the GOP wants to save the party and ever win the white house again it will have to:

.....go to war with right-wing media. That is, they need to dismantle the media machine persuading their base to believe completely bonkers, bigoted garbage. It is, after all, the right-wing radio, TV and Internet fever swamps that have gotten them into this mess, that have led to massive misinformation, disinformation and cynicism among Republican voters. And draining those fever swamps is the only way to get them out of it.

For example:

7 of 10 repubs still very seriously doubt or completely disbelieve that Obama was born in the US.

6 of 10 believe Obama is a secret Muslim.

5 of 10 believe that global warming is a hoax concocted by climate scientists.

7 of 10 believe government economic data are fabricated.

5 of 10 don’t trust that votes will be counted accurately in the November election.

Get this:

Some small fraction actually believe that presidential elections are determined by Instagram followers.
HERE

Data trutherism, claims that the economy is worse than the official numbers indicate, that polls are “skewed” to favor Democrats, that hurricane forecasts are exaggerated to scare the public into fearing climate change, riled the base, even as it sowed a deadly distrust in any impartial metric of the nation’s economic, political, social or climatological health.

Never-ending witch hunts against Planned Parenthood, climate scientists, Hillary Clinton similarly galvanized supporters in the near term but increased bloodlust for punishment of political enemies in the long run.

In other words, Trump is not some black swan, whose unique cocktail of charisma, telegenicism and political fluidity landed him the nomination. His nomination is the product of years of race-baiting, conspiracy-theorizing, expert-delegitimizing right-wing media nonsense, which Republican politicians aided and abetted because it seemed politically expedient at the time. They helped the alt-right create the alternate reality that made a Trump nomination inevitable.

And unless the party establishment grapples with its own complicity in misinforming, misleading and frightening the masses, it’s doomed to field more Donald Trumps in the future.

HERE
This is typical blinkered ignorance from idiot regressive leftists. Stop presuming your political opponents are idiots who need the benefit of your wisdom you uneducated fuck.




Awareness -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/30/2016 11:09:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
5 of 10 don’t trust that votes will be counted accurately in the November election.
And they are right. I KNOW the votes won't be counted accurately in the November election, because I actually know what I'm fucking talking about. The company which makes the electronic voting machines is known as Diebold. Diebold makes notoriously bad voting machines with a laughable lack of security and back doors built into them which allow vote counts to be tampered with. They were the subject of an Emmy-award nominated documentary known as "Hacking Democracy", but people in the security industry have known about Diebold for fucking decades.

We know these fuckers make unreliable voting systems which can be easily manipulated, and yet the US government STILL uses their machines for elections.

Security experts such as Bruce Schneier have designed tamper-proof voting systems which allow individuals to check their vote has been counted correctly but nobody wants to go near them because the desire to enable riggable elections is so high. Let's see what he thinks of Diebold:

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/05/diebold_doesnt.html

quote:

This quote sums up nicely why Diebold should not be trusted to secure election machines:

David Bear, a spokesman for Diebold Election Systems, said the potential risk existed because the company's technicians had intentionally built the machines in such a way that election officials would be able to update their systems in years ahead.

"For there to be a problem here, you're basically assuming a premise where you have some evil and nefarious election officials who would sneak in and introduce a piece of software," he said. "I don't believe these evil elections people exist."

If you can't get the threat model right, you can't hope to secure the system.



So, those five out of ten people who think votes won't be counted accurately? They're fucking right and you're an ignorant moron who needs to be educated.




MercTech -> RE: Today's right and how [it] got a Trump (10/30/2016 11:22:31 AM)

Dammit, the constituents in the memorial gardens won't be able to vote if you take away the back doors and require ID! That's live-ist bigotry.




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